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2:45 pm - 10/03/2012

A South Korean Star, and the Horse He Rode In On



HONG KONG — “Gangnam Style” has been the musical and dance hit of the year, to say the least, and one half expects to see a pirated Politburo version leaked out of the Communist Party congress in Beijing in a few weeks.

The song, a wacky, upbeat ditty by the South Korean rapper and singer Psy, has galloped to the top of the pop charts in the United States, Britain, Australia and Canada. The official video has been watched more than 350 million times on Youtube, making it No. 5 on the site’s all-time music list.

There have been homemade video renditions of Psy’s horsey dance — not all of them well-received — by Thai naval officers, California lifeguards, North Korean propagandists, red-suited male and female prisoners in the Philippines and the University of Oregon marching band. At a party following an Asian-American awards banquet last week, U.S. Congressman Mike Honda showed off his Gangnam moves.

Psy’s real name is Park Jae-sang. He is 34, the father of twin girls, and was born in Seoul, in the upscale Gangnam district. He attended the Berklee College of Music in Boston and released his first album of hip-hop songs in 2001. He has been something of a midlevel star until this summer’s breakout hit, and he’s hardly one of the hard-bodied, highly produced clones who populate the K-pop universe.

Not everyone is buying into the adoration, however.

Arwa Mahdawi, a commentator writing in The Guardian, said “the last time the West laughed so uproariously at a Korean singer was when an animated Kim Jong-il bewailed how ‘ronery’ he was in the film ‘Team America,’ and how nobody took him ‘serirousry.’ The puppet had a point: Popular Western media doesn’t tend to take east Asian men seriously — even when they’re brutal dictators.

“The stereotype of a portly, non-threatening Charlie Chan-type who speaks ‘comical’ English is still very much alive, apparent in everything from hungry Kim Jong-un memes to Abercrombie and Fitch T-shirts,” Ms. Mahdawi said.

“And it’s hard to escape the uncomfortable feeling that this stereotype is contributing something to the laughter around ‘Gangnam Style.’ ”

“What is missing from much commentary on Psy’s video is the existing American cultural context that embraces stereotypes of Asians while rejecting more realistic portrayals,” said Crystal S. Anderson, associate professor of English at Elon University in North Carolina and a contributor to the Web site hellokpop.

“When people ask why Psy’s video is so popular, this is one of the major issues that goes unanswered,” Ms. Anderson said. “I think more people are laughing at Psy than laughing with him.”

On the Racialicious Web site, a commentary headlined “Psy and the Acceptable Asian Man” said:

Alongside clowns from other mediums like Ken Jeong (and yellowface disgraces like Mickey Rooney’s Mr. Yunioshi from “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”), Psy fits right into the mainstream-friendly role of Asian male jester, offering goofy laughs for all and, thanks to Psy’s decidedly non-pop star looks, in a very non-threatening package.

That’s not to say that there is anything wrong with appreciating Asian comic stylings or that Psy is at all untalented. The man came up with the concept and dance for his song, as well as writing the whole thing itself and even manages to have a message in the mix.

Likewise, many of these comically oriented Asian and Asian-American performers are very good at what they do, so the problem isn’t with them, but rather with the racism and neo-Orientalism prevalent in the mainstream American (and Western) mindset that blinds this society from seeing and accepting the full spectrum of Asian and Asian American people.

In a piece in Mother Jones, Deanna Pan said “Psy is the ‘Asian man who makes it’ because he fits neatly into our pop cultural milieu wherein Asian men are either kung-fu fighters, Confucius-quoting clairvoyants or the biggest geeks in high school.”

These and other critiques seem to suggest a corollary to “yellowface,” the much-criticized casting (especially in Hollywood) of Caucasian performers in Asian roles, a phenomenon previously explored here on Rendezvous.

“I don’t think ‘Gangnam Style’ is racist, because I don’t think Psy intended to create a song or video for a global audience,” said Joz Wang, a journalist and blogger in Los Angeles, in an e-mail message to Rendezvous. “It seems to me that Psy’s mocking (or self-mocking) is squarely directed at those in South Korea who already had an idea of what Gangnam Style is . . .That is, before he came along and turned things upside-down!

“I happen to think the song is totally danceable and silly. It’s also fun because you can’t do the dance while taking yourself very seriously. While this is indeed a major breakthrough for K-pop, I don’t think this means it has ‘arrived.’ If anything, it has opened the doors but how rapidly others come in after Psy is yet to be seen.”

Amy He, managing editor at the Web site seoulbeats, said in an interview with the British newspaper Metro that Psy’s success with “Gangnam Style” will not necessarily boost K-pop’s wider acceptance in the West.

“He puts out great music and is a very popular artist,” she said, “but he is not reflective of the mainstream K-pop scene at large, which is filled to the brim with boy and girl groups.

“More worrying is that a lot of people latch on to ‘Gangnam Style’ because of preconceived stereotypes of Asians: Psy is the funny Asian guy who’s doing the funny dance in the funny song.”



What are your thoughts? Is Gangnam Style's acceptance among Western audience reflective of the West's tradition of racism against Asians? (The answer is Yes.)

소스 ^^
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im_chris_hansen 3rd-Oct-2012 07:03 pm (UTC)
i cant wait for this song to just GO AWAY
yummyhead2toe 3rd-Oct-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
Like "Friday", it will die out.
forevergold217 3rd-Oct-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
U didn't just compare Psy to rebecca fucking black
scarletfbl 3rd-Oct-2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
It'll happen... and then you'll bitch about waiting for the next new big thing to go away like errbody else.

What's the term for "keep scrolling," but in irl terms?
robertsbox_xo 3rd-Oct-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
so fucking sick of this mess

i mean good for him and i hope he made bank, but can your 15 seconds be over now pls
mutterby 3rd-Oct-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
why are ppl so stupid with their music taste? the UK is the worst honestly, the amount of stupid novelty shit that gets to no.1
lcacbc 3rd-Oct-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
Lmao. Truth. We do usually love shitty novelty acts
shukivengeance 3rd-Oct-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
HEY MACARENA
shukivengeance 3rd-Oct-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
TOUCH MY BUM
beating_heartss 4th-Oct-2012 04:49 am (UTC)
Jedward

lol
pwrpuffgrl 3rd-Oct-2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
You clearly haven't seen Mexico iTunes charts.
plugmebaby 4th-Oct-2012 01:07 am (UTC)
i think the uk is wayyyy better than the us tbh. i mean compare the number of trashy stars and starlets you have in the music industry compared to the us, where they are dominating the charts and are basically the only "musicians" kids know of nowadays.
lcacbc 3rd-Oct-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
I had to explain the video to my boss today. He did not understand.

lbr this song would be ridiculous no matter who sings it
robyn_williams 3rd-Oct-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
I'd have to agree and say yes; to a degree, the song's/Psy's popularity is due to racism. Deanna Pan makes an excellent point which I've previously vocalized among my friends. It's a shame the whole thing has transformed into this horrible racist meme caricature, because Gangnam Style is a genuinely solid song.

It's awful seeing him be paraded around American television shows like some sideshow performer.
robyn_williams 3rd-Oct-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
tl;dr this fucking "hahahahaaha oh asia's so crazy hahahahaha lmao" attitude is gross
kapuki234 3rd-Oct-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
ia
sandstorm 3rd-Oct-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
MTE
ohifonly_x 3rd-Oct-2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
I see what you're saying, but honestly most of the people I know irl genuinely like the song and they think the video is entertaining but not to offensive levels. But that's just my impression of a few people so :/

It's a good song that actually has an interesting message, but of course not many people know that. Personally in high school some people were like 'why do you listen to kpop if you're not korean' to me so I'm glad its getting exposure now but still there's all those criticisms about it like those mentioned here. Ahh.
robyn_williams 3rd-Oct-2012 07:18 pm (UTC)
Oh, totally! I definitely understand that there are reasonable people out there who just like the song because it's catchy.
scarletfbl 3rd-Oct-2012 07:33 pm (UTC)
All this, and this is exactly me. I'm 25, and I STILL get this.
sweetestbliss1 3rd-Oct-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
Yess. As someone who's not Korean and has been listening to k-pop since high school...(just graduated from college), I'm glad it's getting some exposure now too.
gigglyvapidslut 3rd-Oct-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
yeah, same here. people truly enjoy it and loved reading the story behind the lyrics
sweet_honesty 4th-Oct-2012 02:50 am (UTC)
I agree...I've listened to kpop since high school and am excited to see it get finally get exposure.
honeebs 3rd-Oct-2012 07:19 pm (UTC)
I know and agree
quinnthevixen 3rd-Oct-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
Spot on
jessyryan 3rd-Oct-2012 07:33 pm (UTC)
ITA
shukivengeance 3rd-Oct-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
I've heard the song and like it, but haven't witnessed any of the media circus or whatever since I don't watch tv much. Can you elaborate on the racist meme caricature aspect? Was he mistreated on any of his tv appearances?

Edited at 2012-10-03 08:01 pm (UTC)
avilewoman 3rd-Oct-2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I really love the song and I hope he can sustain his success here if he wants to pursue it (I've listened to some of his other stuff and really enjoyed it), but I've been starting to notice the pattern of racism developing, too. It's unfortunate.
kitapita 3rd-Oct-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
I've never seen the video. My 16 year old son, who loves everything Asian and wants to live in Japan one day, and his buddy were singing it on my balcony a couple of weeks ago. A few days later, I saw a post about Psy being on SNL here on ONTD, and I've heard it on my local Top 40 station. I just thought people found it fun. But, what do I know? Not much, according to aforementioned 16 year old.
motorwill 4th-Oct-2012 04:21 am (UTC)
yes, many times over. It is scandalous that American tv thinks mainstream US pop is better than this song. GS sounds like it should be another schtick track, but somehow it's solid like you said. I don't know how/why.
illiade 3rd-Oct-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think it's racist that people like the song. Dance trends come and go: e.g. the shuffle, macarena, the other shuffle that lmfao made popular, the dougie etc etc. It's a fad, and when the next big pop song with accompanying dance comes along he'll fade away.
illiade 3rd-Oct-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
Some reactions may have racist undertones to it, but honestly it's a catchy dance song, and I don't think it would've made a difference whether or not an asian man was singing it. It's a fun song, the video has that whole exaggerated 'dude thinks he's awesome but isn't thing' going and people like those two things when combined.
kapuki234 3rd-Oct-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
i just hope that out of all this racist bullshit, he's making mad cash.
winegums 3rd-Oct-2012 08:53 pm (UTC)
ia. More power to him, he can get that $$$$$$
lookitslisa 3rd-Oct-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
i have conflicted feelings on this. i think it's great that a south korean guy broke into the US mainstream culture and is successful... on the other hand it sucks because of the subtle racism attached to it

one step forward, two steps back
jeugd1 3rd-Oct-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
let's concentrate on his better song

forevergold217 3rd-Oct-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Was JUST listening to this.
kapuki234 3rd-Oct-2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
omg this is so fun
shadwrayvn 3rd-Oct-2012 07:19 pm (UTC)
fuck yes! This is my fav song of his!
benihime99 3rd-Oct-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
This
allopatric 3rd-Oct-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
best song
sweet_children9 3rd-Oct-2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
this one is amazing
peiyu 3rd-Oct-2012 07:25 pm (UTC)
Woah I like this song even though I don't listen to Kpop. I always thought it was creepy watching those boy/girl bands because all of them look the same.

I'm Asian, and it's tough meeting up to those standards of being skinny/pretty (popular makeup around here). The fortunate thing is I'm not youngish anymore, so that pressure to conform is slightly less.
yummyhead2toe 3rd-Oct-2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
So he doesn't sing in English?
not_poplar 3rd-Oct-2012 07:38 pm (UTC)
nope! he's never even considered dipping his toe in the pacific ocean towards america, which is why he's genuinely baffled by the hype rn.
blondebeaker 3rd-Oct-2012 07:41 pm (UTC)
I like this one a lot!
fivil 3rd-Oct-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
I fucking love this tune, just heard it tonight.
coraelle 3rd-Oct-2012 07:48 pm (UTC)
this is awesome! I have to say that because of Gangnam Style I have found out about this guy! I honestly like both songs and Psy! So because of GS I'm a fan now.
love_keiko 3rd-Oct-2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
needs to be his next single, tbh. I LOVE THIS SONG.
benihime99 3rd-Oct-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
To bad the ministry of magic is still censoring this song
Hope it will change soon as they implied it
winegums 3rd-Oct-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
perf. song
shanny_w 3rd-Oct-2012 10:36 pm (UTC)
dat body <3
mjspice 4th-Oct-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
I DO like this.
senorita__ 5th-Oct-2012 05:40 pm (UTC)
very late and with fear of sounding ignorant (and when it comes to asian culture, i pretty much am, i don't know much about it at all) but are all kpop music videos like his? they seem very exaggerated and over the top which i think lends to americans having some of the reactions they do.
nevermademe 3rd-Oct-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
in b4 "if likeing a song is racist than i'll be racist!!!!" ppl who didnt read the article
robyn_williams 3rd-Oct-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
lmao look 2 comments below you
bollyhood 3rd-Oct-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
lol you're such a hater. Go back to your Mumford and Sons album.
forevergold217 3rd-Oct-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
LOVE this song and video especially after I read about how it's a satire. I'm discovering more and more of psy's old songs and I love them as well.

I can see how there are ppl who enjoy Gangnam style because it fits in with America's asian stereotypes.

I just wonder if a more urban themed/sexualized k-pop act would have gotten the "OMG they're only popular because they're pandering to America's sex crazed music industry!"

itsglenncoco 3rd-Oct-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
"who’s doing the funny dance in the funny song"
not to be rude but I thought it was a joke? is it not meant to be funny?
bollyhood 3rd-Oct-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
It is meant to be funny.
itsglenncoco 3rd-Oct-2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
Oh, thats what I thought but I thought this article was saying that people were making a joke out of this song as if its an actual serious thing LOL
bollyhood 3rd-Oct-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
So liking this song means that you're racist?


robyn_williams 3rd-Oct-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
No...
noon 3rd-Oct-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
ming xi deserves better than this cmnt
bollyhood 3rd-Oct-2012 07:22 pm (UTC)
jason350 3rd-Oct-2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOD TELL ME WHO IS THAT FINE CREATURE IN YOUR AVATAR>?!?!??!?
kapuki234 3rd-Oct-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
if you read the article, it's not the song that's the problem, but the specific stereotype that psy as a performer fits into.
bodyline 3rd-Oct-2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
This post is gonna be a mess. I feel it comin'.
forevergold217 3rd-Oct-2012 07:18 pm (UTC)
do U remember that post about the south korean rapper? I forget his name
kapuki234 3rd-Oct-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
tiger jk?

the trolls were cumming all over that post
brucelynn 3rd-Oct-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
that post was so gross omg
bodyline 3rd-Oct-2012 07:26 pm (UTC)
Such a gd mess, lawwwd
love_keiko 3rd-Oct-2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
pls. dont. even. get. me. started.

i take great pride in the few posts that i make on ONTD and that troll fest ruined my dashing record.
sweet_honesty 4th-Oct-2012 02:58 am (UTC)
What happened?
amsterdam__ 3rd-Oct-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
pusheen dancing gangnam gives me life.
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