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6:17 pm - 09/28/2012

Does Mindy Kaling Need More Female Writers?


“The Mindy Project,” the new Fox sitcom that’s both the brainchild of and star vehicle for “Office” alum Mindy Kaling, is one of the more unabashedly girly shows I have watched on network television in a long time. That’s not a bad thing at all, from where I’m sitting. (Like Laura Bennett, I was charmed by the pilot.) But that's precisely why I was a little shocked to see the photo of her writing staff on premiere night that Kaling posted to Instagram: she was surrounded by a sea of young men in suits, with one lone additional woman perched off to the side of the group, nearly out of the frame. Young white men in suits, I should clarify: Kaling appears not to have hired any minorities to write for her show. “That’s quite a sausage fest,” reads one of the comments on the photo. “Mindz, where’s all them female writers at??” asks another fan.

In the advance press for the show, much of the narrative around Kaling has centered on her status as a rare female showrunner, and an even rarer female showrunner of color. I’m not a fan of the beancounting brand of journalism, which I most often find a bit beside the point, but upon seeing that picture, suddenly certain notes that I (like other critics) found a tad sour in the pilot episode—the coworker/possible romantic interest who tells Kaling to lose 15 pounds, the way Kaling crumples into a drunken, jealous mess post-breakup—curdled even more. The show implicitly promises a loving sendup of rom-com clichés; this felt in parts more like mockery, and somehow a crueler one for having come from a boys’ club.



It could be that Kaling simply thinks men are better suited to write about … the travails and emotional life of being a young woman. It could be that, thanks to the recent spate of television created by women (which “Two and a Half Men’s” Lee Aronsohn not-so-charmingly labeled “peak vagina”), there aren’t many good female writers left to hire. After all, Whitney Cummings, Lena Dunham, Liz Merriweather—other rising stars who ascended to showrunner status in the last year—went out of their way to hire plenty of women for their teams. But I seriously doubt that’s the case, and even if there are fewer established women left to snatch up, why not give a relative unknown with no experience (as Kaling was when she was hired on The Office) a chance? It could, and probably is, simply the case that these are just the people Kaling knows and has worked with, and as a still-unproven showrunner she wanted to work with people she trusts to make good TV. Changing the ratio in writers’ rooms isn’t on her shoulders alone, nor should it be only on the shoulders of the few women in charge of TV shows.

But Kaling has spoken about being the only woman in the writers’ room as something she needed to learn to deal with, and of her mastery as a point of pride. “I remember her saying, ‘If you can get them to yell at you, then you know that they’re treating you like an equal and not like a girl,’” “Office” actress Jenna Fisher told New York. (It’s somewhat unfortunate phrasing, that separation that’s drawn there between equal and girl, for all of Kaling’s peacocked, spangle-loving girliness.) There tend to be two ways that people react to having been a minority and an underdog in a situation like that. One is to give a few breaks to up-and-comers with a mind to changing the status quo and making things a bit easier for people who come afterwards. The other is to think, I earned it, why can’t they if they’re really good? There is, after all, nothing more insulting than not expecting other women to be able to meet the toughest standards.

As Willa Paskin recently pointed out in a smart piece on Salon, Kaling’s richest comedic territory is the sending-up of entitlement. Kaling—who happens to be very hardworking, and to be the child of immigrants, and to be an avowed conservative—clearly has complicated feelings about why and how people get certain advantages in life. Gender is just as much a part of that complicated equation as class or race, and so I just can't help wondering if there might be some other women out there with funny takes on the subject that might make the show even stronger.



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p2bab 28th-Sep-2012 10:20 pm (UTC)
Y'all are scapegoating her.
reunionfan 28th-Sep-2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
mte
ronnie_luvs_u 28th-Sep-2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
how? I think this article brings up some valid points.
crazyfirecrotch 28th-Sep-2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
i really like the show but she should've just named it the Kelly Kapoor show.
on_my_raider 28th-Sep-2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
kelly is a complete idiot
mindy is just stuck in a rut in her lovelife
but they do act similar and for that i am grateful
anniemann101 29th-Sep-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
false. like the previous poster said, kelly kapoor is not educated. i like mindy SOOOOOO much better. she's kelly.... but intelligent. WIN.
godrevypoint 28th-Sep-2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
all i wanna know is what's the sitch with her and bj
juteux 28th-Sep-2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
I think they went out a long time ago but now they're bffs.
_underwhelmed 29th-Sep-2012 07:34 am (UTC)
he is gone from the office, rght?
juteux 28th-Sep-2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
Probably because she hired her friends and all her writer friends are men because there aren't enough women in Hollywood etc etc etc.
fancypotatoes 28th-Sep-2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
mte. it'd be questionable if we heard she turned all these awesome women away from her writing team, but i'm pretty sure its that she hired writers she knew and most of them were men.

it'd be great if there was a funny lady on her writing team and hopefully that'll happen, but i'm not gonna hate her for this.
cricketgrl 28th-Sep-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
She's a woman without female friends. I always find those types suspicious.
daddyissues 28th-Sep-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
she has female friends...
bagelsvswaffles 28th-Sep-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
Maybe her female friends just aren't writers?
juteux 28th-Sep-2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
That's not true, she talks a lot about her female best friends in her book. I don't think they're writers though.
courtkneee1 29th-Sep-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
except not since she talks about her female best friends and then her writer male jewish friends in the book.
tx5mym5 29th-Sep-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
She has female friends. She talks about them in her book. Her male friends tend to be writers. the only other female friend that is a writer was the friend she wrote Matt & Ben with.
thewhowhatwhats 29th-Sep-2012 05:34 am (UTC)
There are lots of women in Hollywood.
yackyackyack 29th-Sep-2012 06:29 pm (UTC)
Well, to me this is a superficial excuse, if she really wanted to represent the minority population of women, she could have actively advertised for talented female writers. It might have been a bit harder, but if she had really wanted to she could have found a good representation.
ronnie_luvs_u 28th-Sep-2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
too many dicks.
chaquitalicia04 29th-Sep-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
On the dancefloor?
nekokonneko 29th-Sep-2012 12:58 am (UTC)
There are too many many many many many men!
reunionfan 28th-Sep-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
as much as I love her, I still haven't seen the show yet. Is it any good?
ronnie_luvs_u 28th-Sep-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
it's ok
fancypotatoes 28th-Sep-2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
shows promise.
m3ts_ftw 28th-Sep-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
i like it so far
on_my_raider 28th-Sep-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
absolutely hysterical, fast paced, witty and lots of funny one liners
wicky_wicky 29th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
this is an exaggeration
thickfreakness 28th-Sep-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
I liked it, especially the first five minutes.
bellwetherr 28th-Sep-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
i loved the pilot tbh
ilouboutin 28th-Sep-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
typical "omg, i like to drink and watch 90's romance movies and i get into really, really awkward situations. aaargh!" shit. i see it maybe lasting two seasons.
anniemann101 29th-Sep-2012 12:57 am (UTC)
it's a typical sitcom show. something to watch when you're shaving your legs and/or your armpits or in the middle of dyeing and/or conditioning your hair in the evening.


that kind of thing.

i like it so far. i love mindy as a personality.
ljubavirakija 28th-Sep-2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
Is that BJ Novak in the picture?
tsarinakate1 28th-Sep-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
It definitely looks like him.
stellarlyssa 28th-Sep-2012 10:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I think he's a producer on the show.
courtkneee1 29th-Sep-2012 01:31 am (UTC)
yeah they're really close friends from The Office.
tsarinakate1 28th-Sep-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
I watched it on Hulu a few weeks before it premiered, and while I think I am gonna keep watching, this article definitely outlines some of the probelms I found while watching the pilot.

I'm kinda hoping that it gets more funny and less rom-commy cause I can barely stand rom-com - I don't need to watch one every week.
aka_plynn 28th-Sep-2012 11:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, something didn't sit right with me either, and this put the finger on it. It felt mocking, rather than sympathetic.
tsarinakate1 29th-Sep-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
Yeah. I guess I am just super sick of stories in which the females have everything in their lives - good careers and friends - but their love life is 'THE WORST' and they end up being spazzy and keep falling into things.

I mean. I don't have a love life at the moment, but it doesn't mean I am falling into pools and being obnoxious to police officers.
mila_s_garden 28th-Sep-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
All of those people in the picture are the writers for the show? Didn't think it would take so many to write a sitcom

Edited at 2012-09-28 10:25 pm (UTC)
tx5mym5 29th-Sep-2012 01:59 am (UTC)
Most good sitcoms have around 10 writers. They can work on the jokes, plot, character development, etc. of a few episodes and help get the scripts out faster.

When you have only a few writers, you get crap like Glee. Whoever does the one-liners and jokes are great, but the characterization and plots are a mess and all over the place.
mila_s_garden 29th-Sep-2012 03:43 am (UTC)
I loved Coupling and I think Moffat wrote it alone, but there were just 6 episodes per season, so it makes sense they have so many writers for longer seasons.
lol, now that you mention Glee, it reminded me of this
daddyissues 28th-Sep-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
i LOVE the mindy project ! but the less hot love interest who commented on her weight.. how is she still his friend? i would have flashbacks every time i spoke to him after that
fancypotatoes 28th-Sep-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
right? they went from that scene to the scene towards the end when they are all friendly and a bit flirty?! really? i know she said something shitty and he said something shitty in response, but i'd need some calm down time before be all chuckles again.
daddyissues 28th-Sep-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
i thought maybe i was just being oversensitive but i would've burst into tears and ran to the ladies room lmao whenever anyone makes any comment about the way i look it's in my mind forever but she seemed to have forgotten by then end of the ep

also LOVE for your simpsons icons<3
bellwetherr 28th-Sep-2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
dude, she called out that his wife left him. that's kind of fucking low. i think they were both assholes but let's not pretend they weren't baiting each other.
wordsalone 28th-Sep-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
Can we watch a few episodes before we decide that there are too many men on staff? "She's a chick, so she needs to have more women on staff and don't forget minorities! She needs more minorities!"

Yes, I can see that women/minorities are underrepresented on her writing staff, but I don't like the thought that because she is a woman/POC that she has to represent right off the bat. Maybe she's working with people that she knows and trusts and has great working relationships with. Who knows? Just give the girl some time.
emesieremonde 28th-Sep-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
iawtc. she talked about this in a recent NPR interview and it was great.
boofadil 29th-Sep-2012 08:35 am (UTC)
Is there a link to that interview? I'd love to hear it!
wordsalone 29th-Sep-2012 11:51 am (UTC)
Someone recommended that recently. I'm listening now!
tx5mym5 29th-Sep-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
ITA

That said, I need to write a spec script for her show.
thewhowhatwhats 29th-Sep-2012 05:39 am (UTC)
Having that many male writers on a female-centric show is a problem, no matter who the showrunner is.
treebraids 29th-Sep-2012 08:31 am (UTC)
Can we watch a few episodes before we decide that there are too many men on staff?

No. we don't do that for other shows, so why make exceptions for her?
tlcspice 28th-Sep-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
Eww I can't believe she's a republication. RIP my love for her :(
poisoned_summer 28th-Sep-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
she's a libertarian

which is almost worse
imnotasquirrel 28th-Sep-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
oh god

next thing you'll tell me is that she's an ayn rand devotee
zharia 28th-Sep-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
not almost. it is.

libertarianism is anarchy for rich white boys who think they've earned everything on ~their own.
flaca 28th-Sep-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
no, she's "an NRA gun-toting republican" according to a quote by mike schur which was in her book.
tsarinakate1 29th-Sep-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
It's totally worse. Ugh. Now I wish I hadn't bought her book.

vee_bot 29th-Sep-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
is this some kind of sick joke :C noooooo
juteux 28th-Sep-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
where did you hear that?
georgeslymaniv 28th-Sep-2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
ew wtf.
anniemann101 29th-Sep-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
dead. okay i'm officially judging her. dammit conservative douches!
tx5mym5 29th-Sep-2012 02:03 am (UTC)
whatthefuckever.

Just because she's a Republican doesn't means she eats babies and poor people. Her writing is still funny. Deal with it.
flaca 28th-Sep-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
mindy kaling's republican ass sucks
brucelynn 28th-Sep-2012 10:38 pm (UTC)
Tl;dr

How do y'all know she is a republican ?

I don't understand how female minorities are republicans

Is she supporting Mitt Romney? Cuz if she is I will be like BYE
roguewave3 28th-Sep-2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
I found out from an interview but I forgot which one.
evett 28th-Sep-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
In her book the creator of Parks & Rec wrote a eulogy for her. One part says "Mindy wore a lot of hats. Ivy League gradute, actor, comedian, playwright, inveterate gossip, weirdly pro-gun Republican" etc etc

Mindy also apparently tweeted that she liked Vince Vaughn more after he supported Ron Paul.
bellwetherr 28th-Sep-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
A joking eulogy doesn't actually cement the fact that she's republican. Liking Ron Paul puts her more into the Libertarian league anyway.
courtkneee1 29th-Sep-2012 01:34 am (UTC)
really, but I thought that was a joke?? who knows, I guess.
poisoned_summer 28th-Sep-2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
her show sucks

it's so unoriginal and contrived, i can't believe people like it
tx5mym5 29th-Sep-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
Aww, it's like a weekly romcom. I don't watch many and this one hits a sweet spot.
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