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Russell Simmons Calls Frank Ocean A "Catalyst" For Hip-Hop + Updated Sales

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Russell Simmons has hailed Frank Ocean's coming out, calling him a catalyst for acceptance of gay rappers.

“The fans are more tolerant,” hip-hop mogul Simmons told gay glossy Details. “A catalyst with courage like Frank Ocean making public statements like that can flourish.”

Ocean, 24 and a member of the collective Odd Future, has been credited as the first mainstream hip-hop artist to come out. He released his latest album, Channel Orange, shortly after his announcement.

However, Andreana Clay, the author of The Hip-Hop Generation Fights Back, told Details, “There's always been a 'queer' presence in hip-hop.”

But acceptance has been hard-won. While strains of resistant homophobia still run through reggae, country, and metal, rap is responsible for the most explicitly antigay rants to ever go platinum, from Eazy E ("This is one ****** that I had to hurt") to Eminem ("Hate fags? The answer's 'yes'") to Cam'ron's popularization of the phrase "No Homo"—which Chris Brown directed at Ocean. Yet some surprising members of the hip-hop community rushed to Ocean's defense, like 50 Cent, who told reporters, "Anyone who has an issue with Frank Ocean is an idiot."

“[T]here are artists like Andre 3000 and Lil Wayne, who vacillate between challenging and upholding a hypermasculine identity – these performers have helped create a space for 'out' identities in the mainstream,” she said.

Ultimately, the artists in this portfolio are linked by their sexuality, but queerness is not a genre of music. It's just one facet of who they are—and just one way in which they're pushing hip-hop forward.

Details goes on to profile other queer rappers, including Mykki Blanco, Le1f, Nicky Da B, House of Ladosha, Cakes Da Killa and Big Dipper.

A video for Cakes Da Killa's Mussy Mayhem, in which he raps, “I got the kinda ass; Turn a saint into a homo,” is embedded on this page.


Channel Orange Hits 500k In Worldwide Sales
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  • week 1 #2 168,900 (168,900) --
  • week 2 #7 94,700 (263,600) -44%
  • week 3 #10 71,100 (334,700) -25%
  • week 4 #12 48,000 (382,700) -32%
  • week 5 #17 37,400 (420,100) -23%
  • week 6 #19 29,900 (450,000) -21%
  • week 7 #34 23,300 (473,300) -23%
  • week 8 #36 22,000 (495,300) -6%
  • week 9 #27 30,100 (525,400) +27%
Pretty good since Thinkin Bout You still has no video and Frank has hardly done any promo outside of the US at all.

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noon 24th-Sep-2012 06:14 pm (UTC)
Pretty good since Thinkin Bout You still has no video

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and bow @ this le1f mention
ani_di_franco 24th-Sep-2012 06:17 pm (UTC)
Get it, Frank

roguewave3 24th-Sep-2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
Omg, he's sold half a million? That's a big deal these days. I'm so happy for him.

He needs to do more promo because I want to watch interviews with him but he seems so shy and probably doesn't want to deal with a million questions about his sexuality.
withoutyoursmil 24th-Sep-2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
mte. not at all, actually lol
vampireweekend 24th-Sep-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
omg get itttttttt
allons_y42 24th-Sep-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
Holy crap, Andreana Clay is a professor from my alma mater! Get it, lady. Go San Francisco State sociology department, the queerest in all the land (seriously, 50% of the profs there are gay, and it is awesome).
allons_y42 24th-Sep-2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
Also, <3 you, Frank :)
jjoeyjjang 24th-Sep-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
eh, nice that he came out, but considering he's in OF and they're all a bunch of attention-seekers, i'm not feeling too "proud" of him.
liferekindled 24th-Sep-2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
eh
vampireweekend 24th-Sep-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
it's nice that there's an out and open male bisexual that's being acknowledged, though.
laurie_springs 24th-Sep-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
How is he attention seeking though? He used male pronouns, some random blog picked up on it, and he addressed it by releasing something that was going to be included with the album anyway.
fireprince 24th-Sep-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
Not today gorl! Someone coming out is a personal decision for THEM! It's not for you to object to or project your own agenda on to. The quicker people realize that the easier it would make it for people who want to come out.
peacetrains 24th-Sep-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
oh please
vdwoodsen 24th-Sep-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
wut details is considered a gay magazine looool
we_eat_coldcuts 24th-Sep-2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
Anyone here going to the Bon Iver and Frank show tonight? It's gonna be a mess and I am fucking tired from the weekend, but part of me wants to go to see people acting a fool.
liferekindled 24th-Sep-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
i just found out about that, where exactly is it?
we_eat_coldcuts 24th-Sep-2012 06:42 pm (UTC)
At the Angel Orensanz Center in the LES. I think you would've had to RSVP, which is closed now. I could go for work, but I'm not sure if I just want to stay in and watch RHONY/Gallery Girls.
liferekindled 24th-Sep-2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
no one ever comes to florida :(
laurie_springs 24th-Sep-2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
lmao Go! The audience spillover will be something to see, I'm sure. And it's not like that'd be a show that would require a lot of energy to attend lbr.
laurie_springs 24th-Sep-2012 06:42 pm (UTC)
Pretty good numbers since the album was, for whatever reason, VERY undershipped in it's first two weeks (rme @ Def Jam for assuming his fans would be the kind to just get the itunes version)
liferekindled 24th-Sep-2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
i work at best buy and they sent so many fucking 2 chainz cds and they sent only 5 frank ocean cds
fireprince 24th-Sep-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
ROFL!
laurie_springs 24th-Sep-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
smh
kpoplvr 24th-Sep-2012 09:24 pm (UTC)
I had to special order it at my little local record store bc their shipment was like, 30 at a time. Not that I'm complaining about supporting the little store but aiish. Best Buy 'round here didn't carry it at all.
prophecypro 24th-Sep-2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
No Stanism but they did the same thing with Nas' album and it sold more than expected too. Def Jam kinda fucked up that week and I dont think they shipped for either yet.

Meanwhilr Ross and Chainz got bulks sent out.
dreamofcoffee 24th-Sep-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
Channel Orange Hits 500k In Worldwide Sales

Get it, Frank. That is awesome.
ilikeandrewbird 24th-Sep-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
Frank Ocean isnt selling albums because of his blog post. Hes selling albums because of his talent.
peacetrains 24th-Sep-2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
cluelessraf 24th-Sep-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
Good for him!
prophecypro 24th-Sep-2012 08:17 pm (UTC)
Dude's been heavily promoted off press now though, so he's doing a expected.
timbershiver 24th-Sep-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
I don't know Frank Ocean's music, I'm really out of touch, but in July I had a dream that I was in a queue for the best BBQ in the world, but then Russell Simmons turned up and he and his friends got served first because they were famous, and ate all the meat, so all that was left for me was grilled Zebra skin.

This resulted in me hating Russ Simmons for a while, and I had to stop eating meat for a while because I kept gagging at the memory of how chewy the Zebra skin was.

empirebird 24th-Sep-2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
YAAASSSSS!!!! WERK IT, FRANK. GET IT, BB!!
severalstories 24th-Sep-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
Awesome! I love this album so much. It's all I've been listening to in the car basically since I bought it.
calichaos 25th-Sep-2012 02:32 am (UTC)
Yass isn't he at Gold status now?
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