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11:16 am - 09/12/2012

Hollywood filmmaker Sam Bacile goes into hiding

An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding after a YouTube trailer of his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff were killed.

Speaking by phone Tuesday from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

Protesters angered over Bacile's film opened fire on and burned down the U.S. consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi. Libyan officials said Wednesday that Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed Tuesday night when he and a group of embassy employees went to the consulate to try to evacuate staff as the building came under attack by a mob firing machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.

In Egypt, protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy in Cairo and replaced an American flag with an Islamic banner.

"This is a political movie," said Bacile. "The U.S. lost a lot of money and a lot of people in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we're fighting with ideas."

Bacile, a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, said he believes the movie will help his native land by exposing Islam's flaws to the world.

"Islam is a cancer, period," he said repeatedly, his solemn voice thickly accented.

The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it.

The film claims Muhammad was a fraud. The14-minute trailer of the movie that reportedly set off the protests, posted on the website YouTube in an original English version and another dubbed into Egyptian Arabic, shows an amateur cast performing a wooden dialogue of insults disguised as revelations about Muhammad, whose obedient followers are presented as a cadre of goons.

It depicts Muhammad as a feckless philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse, among other overtly insulting claims that have caused outrage.

Muslims find it offensive to depict Muhammad in any manner, let alone insult the prophet. A Danish newspaper's 2005 publication of 12 caricatures of the prophet triggered riots in many Muslim countries.

Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.

"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it."

A consultant on the film, Steve Klein, said the filmmaker is concerned for family members who live in Egypt. Bacile declined to confirm.

Klein said he vowed to help Bacile make the movie but warned him that "you're going to be the next Theo van Gogh." Van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004 after making a film that was perceived as insulting to Islam.

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said.

Bacile's film was dubbed into Egyptian Arabic by someone he doesn't know, but he speaks enough Arabic to confirm that the translation is accurate. It was made in three months in the summer of 2011, with 59 actors and about 45 people behind the camera.

The full film has been shown once, to a mostly empty theater in Hollywood earlier this year, said Bacile.


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hearthecity 12th-Sep-2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
What happened to Theo van Gogh was so horrible.

screwhim 12th-Sep-2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
iawtc
zharia 12th-Sep-2012 04:21 pm (UTC)
This guy is a fucking moron. Stupid racist fuck.

Not to mention the absolute utter embarrassment that is the response of the Romney campaign to this issue.
lollapoe 12th-Sep-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
What was the response?
derka_drka 12th-Sep-2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
Romney, in a statement released Tuesday night, had called the president's handling of the Libya and Egypt attacks "disgraceful." Wednesday morning, Romney hastily scrapped a campaign rally in Jacksonville, Fla., dismantling a campaign stage, and instead held a small press conference in which he repeatedly defended his criticism of the administration, slamming embassy officials in Cairo and President Obama. "When our grounds are being attacked, and being breached, that the first response of the United States must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. And apology for America's values is never the right course."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/mitt-romney-obama-libya_n_1877406.html

also here's his whole statement: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/mitt-romneys-statement-on-the-libya-ambassador-attack/2012/09/12/3d314562-fceb-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html



Edited at 2012-09-12 04:37 pm (UTC)
nikkyc2001 12th-Sep-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
To blame Obama for a statement he did not make that 'sympathized' with the attackers, which it did not.

Basically, he spoke before he got the facts and now he has to double-down on it just like he does everything else.
zharia 12th-Sep-2012 04:44 pm (UTC)
During the attack on the embassy, a statement by embassy officials released a statement attempting to calm the protests: "During the protest in Cairo but hours before the attacks in Libya, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued a statement saying that it condemns “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” An administration official later told ABC News that “no one in Washington approved that statement before it was released and it doesn’t reflect the views of the U.S. government.” The statement still appears on the embassy website, but not on the homepage. "

The Romney camp responded to this statement with: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi,” Romney said. “It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” This statement was released last night, at midnight before the deaths had been confirmed and announced by the US State Department. Reasonably, he could have apologized for being such an opportunist without realizing the ramifications of what had actually happend, except not.

Romney then held a press conference this morning, after Secretary of State Clinton had gone on air strongly denouncing the actions of those who killed our diplomats. Instead of acting presidential, Romney chose to spend the majority of his press conference attacking president Obama and claiming that we were 'apologizing to terrorists,' etc. Not even the conservative facets of the media are siding with him at this point.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/12/romney-camp-tries-to-manage-fallout-from-libya-response/comment-page-2/
cricketgrl Paul Ryan avoids Obama-bashing12th-Sep-2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
robintheshrew 14th-Sep-2012 01:35 am (UTC)
Romney just had to go and make something bad so much worse. Arg.
grimacide 13th-Sep-2012 05:37 am (UTC)
Except that it is a cancer, like all religion.
distant_lines 12th-Sep-2012 04:23 pm (UTC)
This is all just so sad. I hope people will actually acknowledge the fact that this was a response by radicals and many people in Libya worked to save people from the consulate.
snuffyqui45 12th-Sep-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
You know they won't. Fucking Romney is already calling for a strike as though Libya itself declared war on the US. It's so damn ridiculous.

At least the Potus and SOS repeatedly said that it was radicals and left Libya itself out of this mess.
distant_lines 12th-Sep-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
I was glad that President Obama and HIlary Clinton both strongly stated that several people tried to help our people.
rabbitncavylove 13th-Sep-2012 01:20 am (UTC)
I read that some Libyans were killed on the streets too? Not sure if that is confirmed yet :(
tigermilk 12th-Sep-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
Libyans carried the Ambassador to the hospital, the last I heard. It's so fucking sad. I had to turn off the news because it was bumming me out.
ectypes 12th-Sep-2012 05:23 pm (UTC)
this. the media should be airing those pictures of muslims carrying him to the hospital, not the same clip of radicals ripping the US flag apart.
forevergold217 12th-Sep-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
we're all so sad about this. Friends in Tripoli are organizing a rally as we speak.
grimacide 13th-Sep-2012 05:37 am (UTC)
THIS
heartlockedx 12th-Sep-2012 04:24 pm (UTC)
i can't even with the world today.
jumping_down 12th-Sep-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
sigh.
marywebgirl 12th-Sep-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
I just can't even think about this. It's filled with assholes top to bottom.
snuffyqui45 12th-Sep-2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
MTE.
baboona 12th-Sep-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
lol @ this flop bitch
helders 12th-Sep-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
basically
snuffyqui45 12th-Sep-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
This fucking prick. And the fucking prick pastor in Florida (same motherfucker who burned the Quran).

Fuck the world. And fuck Mitt Romney.
juicybrisket 12th-Sep-2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
mte
cricketgrl 12th-Sep-2012 04:40 pm (UTC)
zharia 12th-Sep-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
SMILE FOR THE CAMERA MITTENS.

goldengal1193 12th-Sep-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
Mitt Romney might have cost himself the election this morning.
xdecadentx 12th-Sep-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
I was in Florida while that was going on. As a brown Muslim I was terrified.
jumping_down 12th-Sep-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
GOD. TERRY JONES. I hate that fucking idiot.
muffledlaugh 12th-Sep-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
While this guy's film is probably incredibly offensive, I don't understand why the reaction is to violently attack US embassies, which have absolutely nothing to do with the film, it's production, or it's distribution.

It's just a really sad situation all around and I hope they've ampted up security at the embassies and people are able to stay safe :/
distant_lines 12th-Sep-2012 04:29 pm (UTC)
President Obama and Hilary both said that security has been increased at embassies around the world, and I'm also fairly certain the marines have been sent out to that area.
foryoursake08 12th-Sep-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
Marines are already there, they're the ones that guard the embassies. But yeah, I'm sure more are being sent.
whiteswallows 12th-Sep-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
Well for them it's:

American film = American people... and the easiest way to show their anger towards Americans are the US embassies, sadly.
winniechili 12th-Sep-2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
"I don't understand why the reaction is to violently attack US embassies, which have absolutely nothing to do with the film, it's production, or it's distribution."

It's pointless to try to understand the minds of crazy fucks.
potatoboat 12th-Sep-2012 04:37 pm (UTC)
The people were led to believe this film was some Hollywood big budget film that Americans were flocking to watch on 9/11, which of course was not the case.
a_grumble_cakee 12th-Sep-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
It's probably not a coincidence this happened on 9/11 when the actual movie was released months ago... the film in this case is more of an excuse, I think.
shiiblee 12th-Sep-2012 05:46 pm (UTC)
What is there to understand? Extreme Islamists are batshit insane and will burn their own mother if she insulted their prophet.
forevergold217 12th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
The atlantic explaining Egypt:
" That doesn't mean this incident will become anything more than a bizarre moment of cross-cultural misunderstanding (the protesters seem to assume that, as in Egypt, movies must secure the state's approval), but that it could go so far is yet another reminder of the tensions just beneath the surface in Egypt."


as for Libya, shit has been hitting the fan for weeks now and the new government's failures are becoming more apparent. Security has been an issue for ages but I'm really hoping the step up their game after this
nicholasdee 12th-Sep-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
I am not sure about Libya, but the man who is claiming is going under a false name and identity. There is no record of his existance. There is a suggestion that he is an Egyptian Coptic Christian. Not that it excuses any violence, but it creates a link to Egypt.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/12/mystery-sam-bacile-innocence-muslims
joy_mora 12th-Sep-2012 05:10 pm (UTC)
cricketgrl 12th-Sep-2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
That fucking asshole. can't stand that worthless bastard.
camila12j 12th-Sep-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
<3
mjspice 13th-Sep-2012 07:15 am (UTC)
That's how it should it really.
whiteswallows 12th-Sep-2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
I wonder what it feels like to be responsible for the death of 4 people.

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said.


Really, you idiot?

I'll never understand why people are mocking other people's religion. Like... what's the point?

trojanchick99 12th-Sep-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
He had to know. Remember that Danish comic?
screwhim 12th-Sep-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
Why can't you mock or criticize another person's religion? Or is it just certain ones where you know what the reaction is going to be?
madhubala 12th-Sep-2012 04:37 pm (UTC)
You can't criticize Islam as their crazies go nuts. Much scarier than their Christian counterparts.
jumping_down 12th-Sep-2012 05:10 pm (UTC)
It's hard to split hairs about it, but sometimes you can tell when the criticism is about issues and not simply fuelled by religious hate. Theo Van Gogh, for example, his film delved into Islam's treatment of women. This one, I think, is just mocking Islam and their god.
snappple 12th-Sep-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
Its not his responsibility though, hes a piece of shit and he knew muslims(especially at this delicate time) are unstable because of the civil wars and such, this was exactly what he wanted, and the idiots fell right into it. Now Bashar and his thugs can proclaim that the spring is violent and useless and the poor civilians who have been fighting for years are going to lose everything. But the point is, whatshisface filmaker is a dumbass perpetrator who knew this will make Muslims go in rage, but hes not responsible for people dying.
winniechili 12th-Sep-2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
The point of mocking religion is the point of mocking...anything. Because you find it silly or illogical etc etc. He's a dipshit but the ONLY people responsible for the killings are those who killed.
quizblorg 12th-Sep-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
He isn't. The guys who killed them are the ones responsible.

Edited at 2012-09-12 04:45 pm (UTC)
shiiblee 12th-Sep-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
Uh no, he is not. Just because someone insulted your imaginary friend doesn't give you the right to slaughter innocents.
mjspice 13th-Sep-2012 07:18 am (UTC)
I'll never understand why people are mocking other people's religion. Like... what's the point?

This really! I wish we all got along rather than start throwing shade at each other for different beliefs.
snappple 12th-Sep-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
The movie was a piece of shit, it was such a unfunny crappy piece of flaming pig shit scratch that even pig shit has more value than that movie. I feel so sorry for muslims that the extremists once again acted on violence and aggression because of such a worthless movie. My muslims friend are all against this act, and the fact that the there might be a possibility that the people who went to carry this act are believed to one of Gaddaffis leftover thugs is saddening, because it is believed that it was done to prove that the Arab Spring is a shit move and they must all bow to their dictators. Also, I read that America is using this opportunity to enter Libya, which means that once again another war will ensue and the oil will be going to America while the Libyans once again suffer for decades. This truly sucks.
quizblorg 12th-Sep-2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
"I feel so sorry for muslims that the extremists once again acted on violence and aggression"

Maybe let's feel sorry for the victims first.
crystalzelda 12th-Sep-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
Not all of use have to prioritize our sympathies. Some of us can even feel sorry for more than one group of people at once.
candidcouture 12th-Sep-2012 04:57 pm (UTC)
hey I know one of the guys that died and he would promote this type of thinking so lets not do this.
thedpmiss 12th-Sep-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
The muslims are also the victims of this especially if they had no association with these extremists.
snappple 12th-Sep-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
I feel sorry for everyone involved here, especially because I know that this is giving you joy that the muslims are once again the terrorists here.
trojanchick99 12th-Sep-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
What a douchebag. Please, please get the fuck out of my state, and while you are at it out of my country. His "movie" is hate speech, clear and simple. I am embarrassed that it was made here.

That said, NOTHING justifies the assassination of our Ambassador and his staff.
comalies 12th-Sep-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
"Islam is a cancer, period."

Islamic extremism maybe, but that goes for any other religion's extremists as well. So shove your ignorant piece of shit film up your ass.
diosabellissima 12th-Sep-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
No lie. The super hard core Zionists aren't exactly peaches either.
door 13th-Sep-2012 06:17 pm (UTC)
ikr? Extremism is the cancer. Period.
winniechili 12th-Sep-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
This entire thing is such a big fucking mess. His movie is shit and he's an ass but it's not his fault a bunch of crazy people decided to use it as their excuse to murder.

Edited at 2012-09-12 04:34 pm (UTC)
theitalianchick 12th-Sep-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
That's what I think too, bb.
jumping_down 12th-Sep-2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
True, true.
bathstone 12th-Sep-2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
This.

The entire thing is very, very, very sad.
expromqueen 12th-Sep-2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
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