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Mandy Patinkin calls Criminal Minds "biggest public mistake I ever made".



The actor - who currently appears in Showtime's Homeland - told New York Magazine that joining the violent CBS drama in 2005 was the "biggest public mistake I ever made".

"I thought [the show] was something very different," said Patinkin, who left Criminal Minds after two seasons in 2007. "I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year.

"It was very destructive to my soul and my personality. After that, I didn't think I would get to work in television again."

However, the 59-year-old Princess Bride star defended the violence in his current show Homeland, on which he plays CIA operative Saul.

"I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he insisted. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about.

"A show like Homeland is the antidote. It asks why there's a need for violence in the first place."

Criminal Minds enters its eighth season on September 26, on CBS in the US. The series airs on Sky Living in the UK.

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klutzy_girl 11th-Sep-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
Um, wow. You knew what the fucking show was about when you signed up for it, no? And didn't you just walk off the set and leave the show scrambling?

So glad he's gone and Joe's on the show now. I hated Gideon and I vastly prefer Rossi.
mynamehere07 11th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
He probably signed a contract without knowing what the creators/writers planned to do.
klutzy_girl 11th-Sep-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
The show is called "Criminal Minds" - You would think he'd realize that it was going to get dark.
cricketgrl 11th-Sep-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
No, he knew. Might have buyers remorse but he knew well in advance. All shows give starring actors treatments, loglines and other materials so that they understand the premise of the show.

When I worked at Showtime David Duchovny made many changes to the show before the signed. One of them being the title of the show. I forget what it was called before but he made them change that and other elements.

Mandy was the star of the series so he knew well in advance what this series would be about. He's just a well known asshole that's incredibly difficult to work with. I'm really surprised he's able to find work. I think he's playing his cools with Showtime though.
hpxstac 11th-Sep-2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
What is this comment? People are signed to shows all the time with only a synopsis of what the show is going to be about. The main chunk of information they get is information pertaining to their character. It's not like he got script after script about killers raping and murdering women beforehand and was all, "I'm totes on board for this!" Gimme a break.
theactualworst 11th-Sep-2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
Yes the show's concept is to explore the motives behind different types of criminals and psychos, but they could do that without graphically showing the horrible crimes. It sounds like he didn't realize how graphic it would be.

That's why I have a hard time with this show. I think it's fascinating but they take the violence too far for me sometimes.

Edited at 2012-09-11 06:26 pm (UTC)
ellaellaeheheh 11th-Sep-2012 06:29 pm (UTC)
I prefer Rossi too. with Gideon the episodes and resolutions were way too centralized in him.
wauwy 11th-Sep-2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
rme.
palmsread 11th-Sep-2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
I had no idea this actually happened!

lol, at them playing out his disappearance on the show.
mhfromnh 11th-Sep-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
I couldn't watch the show without thinking of Inigo Montoya. now I can't watch without thiking of Fat Tony.
pullmystrings 11th-Sep-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
I've only watched Criminal Minds once but it was pretty horrifying!
crazyfirecrotch 11th-Sep-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
yea never saw this show or cared. i miss cold case tho. they're horrible flashbacks to young and old versions of the characters are lulz. my fave episode was the brokeback mtn. inspired episode.
velvetunicorn 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
i loved cold case so much!
sapphire908 11th-Sep-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
it bothered how the chick on cold case never did anything else to her hair other than that messy bun ponytail thing. I honestly couldn't get past it.
treebraids 11th-Sep-2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
she didn't have time for her hair, too busy solving cases - lol.
I loved that she was a mess. I hate crime dramas where the leading lady's hair looks like it has been steam rolled and pin curled into perfection.
mynamehere07 11th-Sep-2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
LOL, that bugged me too. I was also bothered by her "smell the fart" face she always seemed to make.
anna_drenxavier 11th-Sep-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
LOL did you see the MadTV skit where her character literally has rats crawling around in her hair?
bellwetherr 11th-Sep-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
her hair looked so gross all the time.
akasha6915 11th-Sep-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
I liked that a lot more actually, she acted like a person and less like perfection.
alliemolloy 11th-Sep-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
The flashbacks were probably awful because they spent their whole budget on music for the flashbacks, lol. I could always tell what year (or thereabouts) they were going back to with my eyes closed because of the music.
hewontgo 11th-Sep-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
cold case was awesome
theosakansun 11th-Sep-2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
I miss Cold Case too!

I loved that episode! Another great episode was the one that was sort of inspired by the Columbine high school massacre.
fastusagi 11th-Sep-2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
i love cold case i love the one with the deaf boy that wanted to be in music
hera_bearrra 11th-Sep-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
Cold Case was so good!
xtinkerbellax 11th-Sep-2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
I loved Cold Case, I still watch the reruns. I also remember an episode based on the West Memphis Three.
sincetomorrow 11th-Sep-2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
I love cold case, ngl. I'd watch it for the music alone.
cookinguptales 11th-Sep-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
I love Cold Case! I think I like it more than other procedurals because it really humanized the victims. Sometimes I feel like the victims on SVU are screaming, sensationalized hunks of meat. They never get to speak for themselves. Cold Case really made you sympathize with and love these people. :(

Well, except the assholes. But fuck them.
fastbak 11th-Sep-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
I only saw one episode of that show and it was because Jenna Fischer was on it pre-Office. I thought it sucked.
palmsread 11th-Sep-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
the final sequences in Cold Case always makes me teary-eyed. Doesn't matter if I missed the whole episode+ story line, I'll still get emotional at the last bits. the music is always on point.

;___________;
tribalmink 11th-Sep-2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
I loved cold case! lily's hair and makeup bothered me a lot in the last few seasons.

Edited at 2012-09-11 07:25 pm (UTC)
whitelily22 11th-Sep-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
i loved cold case!
rootooyoo 12th-Sep-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
I miss Cold Case too. It got you to care about the victim and didn't have over the top violence or depravity.
a_way_of_sin 11th-Sep-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
god I miss Dead Like Me
noxonesxlooking 11th-Sep-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
Thats where hes from! haha it was bugging me so much
hazel_belle 11th-Sep-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
this, this so much
paparatti 11th-Sep-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
Same. He was so great on that show.
givemethepeasx 11th-Sep-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
i loved that show. i must rewatch it some time.
ghostsaddle 11th-Sep-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
me toooo
hewontgo 11th-Sep-2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
this show was so great
bienenkiste 11th-Sep-2012 06:23 pm (UTC)
UGH IFKR
eerilybeloved 11th-Sep-2012 06:23 pm (UTC)
Me too. He was perfect in that show as Rube.
parisdiorchanel 11th-Sep-2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
Me too.
alpherg 11th-Sep-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Me, too.
anna_drenxavier 11th-Sep-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Same. It was canceled way too soon. And that "movie" is a disgrace.
jigglemypuff 11th-Sep-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
It never even had a proper ending, did it?
a_way_of_sin 11th-Sep-2012 06:34 pm (UTC)
no, not really, it just ended after the Halloween episode
crystalzelda 11th-Sep-2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
it was so amazing! He was A++ in it.
1337nik 11th-Sep-2012 07:27 pm (UTC)


♥ Mason and Roxy
solsty 11th-Sep-2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
That was an amazing show.
rkt 11th-Sep-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
the follow up movie was the terrible though only because it was like one long repeat of previous shows.
closet_trekkie 13th-Sep-2012 02:47 am (UTC)
I'm always waiting for him to call Carry peanut lol.
notoriousreign 11th-Sep-2012 08:24 pm (UTC)
That's so cool! xD
labhaoise 11th-Sep-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
Dsmn and I always was a fan of Gideons. Seriously what did he think was going to happen after the pilot? Reed comes across a fluffy bunny in a meadow and helps birth her offspring?
filmorejive 11th-Sep-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
rossi >>>>> gideon anyway
liliananyappy 11th-Sep-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
mte i fucking hated gideon
ellaellaeheheh 11th-Sep-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
ia.
hilsongirl 11th-Sep-2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
si
flawlessglitch 11th-Sep-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
ia. The only thing I liked better about Gideon was his relationship with Reid.
mhfromnh 11th-Sep-2012 07:38 pm (UTC)
that was sweet. he always introduced him as "Dr Reid" because he wanted people not to write him off due to his age, and they played chess together, and he gave him a dating opportunity as a birthday present.
secretlemonade 11th-Sep-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
mte jesse
maisontv 11th-Sep-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
Yes.
whitelily22 11th-Sep-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
agreed
expromqueen 11th-Sep-2012 09:38 pm (UTC)
gideon's whisper voice was so irritating...it doesn't bother me as much on homeland cause he doesn't get as much screentime
isntdaveone 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
he said the same thing back in 2007.

cuteej4 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
quinnthevixen 11th-Sep-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
I can never hate him because of this, and because of Sunday in the Park with George.
beaddddddsss 11th-Sep-2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
Forever and ever on both. He is Inigo for life and no SitPwG can compare to his and Bernadette's.
laughing_wild 12th-Sep-2012 12:48 pm (UTC)
Add the Broadway production of The Secret Garden to this list, and I can agree.
jigglemypuff 11th-Sep-2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
I had no clue that was him!
flawlessglitch 11th-Sep-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
I was totally like "...the fuck does this gif have to do with anything?" and then I looked at his face. Mind blown.
ieatpianos 11th-Sep-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
OMG. that was him?! wtf
stellawuzadiver 11th-Sep-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
I never realized that was him. I always think of MP as Lisa Simpson's future husband.
notoriousreign 11th-Sep-2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
Damn straight.
leopard_legs 12th-Sep-2012 01:08 pm (UTC)
the first time I saw Criminal Minds you KNOW I shouted this at the TV
HOLY SHIT INIGO WHATS UP BABY
tiarlynn 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
i tried to get into criminal minds and couldn't for those very reasons. it was too dark and oppressive for me, and i have some pretty dark tastes to begin with. it was definitely not the show i was expecting.
xbellaxmiax 11th-Sep-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
the show is called "criminal minds"...
what were you expecting?
tiarlynn 11th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
i dunno, i watched wire in the blood and fucking loved it, something about criminal minds was just too bleak for me. sorry for rustling your jimmies with my different taste in tv shows there.
mynamehere07 11th-Sep-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
Same here. The ads for it looked like it was going to be a variety of crimes. But every episode I saw was about some mentally ill person kidnapping/raping/killing women.
know 11th-Sep-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
same
notoriousreign 11th-Sep-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
Same. My sister loves the show, we have all the DVDs because of her, but even she says the show gets to her often.
expromqueen 11th-Sep-2012 09:43 pm (UTC)
i don't think it's anywhere near as dark or gory as more popular tv shows (breaking bad, true blood, game of thrones, etc.)...for me, it's always had this cheese factor that kept it from really offending me. it's actually a really corny show. the only reason i can stand it cause i feel like the there's a sort of self-awareness about the cheese
romp 11th-Sep-2012 11:55 pm (UTC)
I'm with you. There's violence and death and then there's listening to a woman scream as she's tortured. That's a whole genre IMO and I swore it off after Seven.

I can enjoy some police procedurals like the Inspector Banks books because the crime is mentioned but it's not lovingly detailed, you know? The entertainment is in the mystery, not the sadism.
sheesusnat 12th-Sep-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
My parents love it, but when I lived at home I just couldn't watch even half an episode with them because I wouldn't be able to sleep for a few nights. Just way too dark and intense for me.
leopard_legs 12th-Sep-2012 01:09 pm (UTC)
For me, it's just a little too hammy. The characters and the cliche speeches and shit...I'll just stick with SVU even though that's worse.

Not to mention my sister watches it constantly so I hate it by default for that reason.
winniechili 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
SVU has been on for like 10 years and we're doing any worse, so you know.
landwarinasia 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
I have tried to watch CM a few times and just every single time all I see are women being kidnapped, assaulted, raped, and murdered. It seemed way more graphic and exploitative than it needed to be. I just couldn't keep watching it.
imnotasquirrel 11th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
yeah, i watch the show, but sometimes it has veered to being too graphic & exploitative for my tastes as well.
tryxkittie 12th-Sep-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
it's becoming worse with the later seasons

that's why I stan nikita tbh
crystalzelda 11th-Sep-2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
yup.
mankini 11th-Sep-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah it's disgusting. Most CBS procedurals seem to show the same stuff. People act like it's this great show with great characters, but there has been so little character development since the beginning. It seems that people like actors on the show and convince themselves that the show is worth watching.
notoriousreign 11th-Sep-2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
Yeah mte.
beaddddddsss 11th-Sep-2012 08:57 pm (UTC)
I like dark shows, but this one really is just your basic CBS mainstream show vehicle attempting to be dramatic by amping up the graphic violence to an unnecessary degree to compensate. The sexual violence is beyond gratuitous. I've never gotten into this show for that very reason.
stephaniebrown 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
criminal minds has gotten worse i think. the story lines don't interest me anymore, because they're basically recycled every episode. it's not a bad thing exactly; it's okay to say that a show has run its course and let it go. it's entering csi (rip old seasons, forever the greatest crime show etc) levels of ridiculous now.
imnotasquirrel 11th-Sep-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
they just need to get back to making more old-school episodes. nhf over-the-top unsubs that we see right at the beginning of the eps, therefore eliminating much of the suspense.
givemethepeasx 11th-Sep-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
ia, i don't watch it religiously anymore because of that. I feel like they used to change it up a lot more in earlier seasons.
mishi07 11th-Sep-2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
ia. some of the best episodes are within seasons 1-3.
palmsread 11th-Sep-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
yeah, I haven't been keeping up with the newer episodes but the ones I saw were predictable .
emptyobsidian 11th-Sep-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
Aw I liked him on the show.
xbellaxmiax 11th-Sep-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
yeah, no.
also i fucking love criminal minds- the characters have my dream job.
beatlesluv 11th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
IKR? I love CM!
stoodon_theedge 11th-Sep-2012 06:20 pm (UTC)
I'm actually watching right now, and I love this show and the characters.
zeerine 11th-Sep-2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
MTE
parisdiorchanel 11th-Sep-2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Same. I'd love to be a profiler, but I wouldn't want to see the crime scene photos. I'd cover my eyes and be like "explain to me how they were killed."
flawlessglitch 11th-Sep-2012 06:50 pm (UTC)
Yup, one of my favorite shows tbh
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