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9:19 pm - 09/10/2012

Female Archetypes in Game of Thrones



In the popular HBO show Game of Thrones -- and the books on which the series is based -- the female characters include a dastardly queen, an honorable mother and a whore with a heart of gold.

Though this fictional story takes place in an imagined, mythic past, these women portray modern female archetypes -- highly typical examples or models of femininity.



While this is not necessarily a bad thing, it does not please everyone. As my friend, a successful writer of fantasy literature, said, "If I have to watch or read about the Tomboy and the Princess one more time, I'll stab somebody."

Fiction and all its children -- from novels and plays to movies, television shows and mini-series -- rely on archetypes. My friend's outburst sums up the simultaneous irritation and recognition that many hard-working writers experience when dealing with simplistic, cliched archetypes: They strive to create plausible and appealing female characters who confound archetypes, but also recognize that successful fictional creations such as Game of Thrones depend on them.

By making an inventory of the modern female archetypes in the series' first season, starting with those who inspired my friend to thoughts of murder, we see modern Hollywood types in Hollywood-style medieval costumes:


The Tomboy. Arya Stark, the little daughter with a boy's haircut, learns to wield a sword and become an assassin. She is clearly metamorphosing into another favorite recent archetype, the Woman Warrior (think Guenevere in King Arthur, Lisbeth Salander in Stieg Larsson's trilogy or Katniss Everdeen in The Hunger Games).



The Princess. Sansa Stark, sister to the Tomboy, is not too bright and is often punished for her vapid and romantic delusions. In case you had any doubt which, the Tomboy or the Princess, is more appealing to contemporary audiences, compare what happens to poor Sansa to her clear-minded, independent sister.



The Seductress. The blond villainess, Cersei Lannister Baratheon, really is a nasty piece of work, sleeping with her brother, betraying her husband and routinely murdering and deceiving to advance the careers of her horrible children, or should we call them spawn (for, Grendel-like, truly they are children whom only a mother could love). The only puzzle is why, beyond her comely face and body, anyone would find this socio-path remotely attractive or seductive.



The Self-Made Woman. Daenerys Targaryen's rags-to-riches-to-rags-to-riches story is a staple of Hollywood movies. She is the smart woman who makes her way toward independence in a hostile, male-dominated world. The self-made woman (or man) is a profoundly American archetype, born of the ethos of immigration and mobility. It is, frankly, heart-warming to encounter the archetype again, disguised and placed in surroundings so altered it almost (but not quite) sneaks past us.


The Good Wife. Catelyn Stark's devotion to her husband and children is profound and constitutes a core virtue of integrity that is recognized and honored by the other characters in the series. She is (usually) politically astute as well. Oddly, this Good Wife has a rather incongruous flaw; namely, she dislikes and distrusts Jon Snow, her husband's bastard child, who is so clearly a Good Man (another archetype). That she, a woman of great political insight, is blinded by Snow's very existence doesn't make much sense, but it does allow her to partially inhabit a different archetype: The Evil Stepmother.

There are other female archetypes, of course, and Game of Thrones' second season expands the repertoire: the Whore with a Heart of Gold (Shae); the Witch (Melisandre) and a Woman Warrior (Brienne), tall and strong, with androgynous looks and bearing. (um. that's all you can come up with is witch? gtfo may r'hllor burn a hole in your genitals)

Overall, the female characters in Game of Thrones are no smarter or stupider than the male characters; intelligence seems to be distributed randomly across the sexes in the series, as it is in real life. (Now that's progress!)

There is a dilemma when it comes to archetypes in fiction. Archetypes are immediately and effortlessly familiar and an easy way to make sense of the world.

This can be bad, too. The extreme of an archetype is a stereotype -- a simplified, often clichéd image of others held in common by a group. As we all know, stereotypes can infiltrate the political and social fabric of life and have insidious, damaging effects.

Yet the existence of archetypes in fiction is universal, no less prevalent in the past than in the present, historically and culturally specific, and endlessly fascinating.

SOURCE

"The Whore with a Heart of Gold"?...seriously? NHF Melly, Brienne, and Shae being in the "Other" category. And where the fuck is Margery Tyrell? Yigrite? Ros? Asha-sorry....'Yara'? Anyway, I dedicate this post to the lovely fauxkaren, who should totally be a scholar of knowledge on this and Downton Abbey. For real.

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h0tfuss 11th-Sep-2012 01:22 am (UTC)
Whatever, I am Shoshanna on crack.
ellyrianna 11th-Sep-2012 01:30 am (UTC)
Not getting raped by the man in plaid, then?
missjersey 11th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
That scene when he orders a glass of milk is AMAAAZZIINNNG. My poor bb.
sweet_honesty 11th-Sep-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
Crack spirit guide
fancycarousel 11th-Sep-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
I love Mellisandre SFM
hera_bearrra 11th-Sep-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
Needs more WOC
watermeloncholy 11th-Sep-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
They killed them all
hateistoodark 11th-Sep-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
Except Talisa
and she sucks.
thedpmiss 11th-Sep-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
Gotta wait for Dorne (if they cast properly)
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:44 am (UTC)
Arianne
love_keiko 11th-Sep-2012 02:50 pm (UTC)
i keep holding out that they'll burn down littlefinger's flop brothel and make room for chataya and alayaya.

and kill ros.

but clearly that's asking for too much.
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
FLOP LIST, AND BRIENNE ISN'T EVEN IN THAT GRAPHIC

but I've needed a game of thrones post in my life, so I'll take what I can get
a_boleyn1230 11th-Sep-2012 03:39 pm (UTC)
*high fives* MTE
asha_greyjoy 11th-Sep-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
i really dont agree with the Sansa one
pamuya 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
ikr, 'not too bright'?!

first of all, shes like 12. second of all shes one of the smartest characters imo
thedpmiss 11th-Sep-2012 01:31 am (UTC)
I guess they are basing their points mainly on season 1.

I don't recall Sansa getting savvy before book 3.
margerydaw_s2 11th-Sep-2012 01:33 am (UTC)
This. And considering she's the daughter of possibly the worst player of the Game of Thrones, she is doing amazingly well.
feathersandgold 11th-Sep-2012 01:44 am (UTC)
ikr, she's the smartest of the all lbr
misscrystal 11th-Sep-2012 03:43 am (UTC)
Sansa doesn't get smart until her eyes get opened a bit. In the beginning, she is so very, very dumb. Like, frustratingly so.

Edited at 2012-09-11 03:43 am (UTC)
donnanoble 11th-Sep-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
ikr she's not stupid
she's actually very smart but in a different way from arya
miakun 11th-Sep-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
I feel like half my life is arguing with people about how Sansa is not stupid for not knowing what we know from other people's POVs.
saintmorse 11th-Sep-2012 02:19 am (UTC)
Sansa haters can fuck off. I haven't read the books, but in the show she's an extremely sympathetic character, once you remember that she's a kid, and her whole world has collapsed around her. She's just trying to stay alive. She's definitely growing as a person, and has a quiet strength to her. I don't think she's stupid, I think she's trying to make the best of a really awful, high pressure situation. She's realistic. Plus, Sophie Turner is seriously so pretty, and so good as her.

Huh, I'm a Sansa stan. Cool.

Edited at 2012-09-11 02:21 am (UTC)
richinlaughter 11th-Sep-2012 03:42 am (UTC)
Me neither. It's ridiculous to consider her "not too bright", considering that eventually, she survives by her wit and cunning alone.
sweet_honesty 11th-Sep-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
Sansa became my favorite, just because of her character development.
midnightblack07 13th-Sep-2012 02:20 am (UTC)
IKR, I definitely think Sansa's personal growth and general behavior in season 2 (even with what little we saw of her) completely invalidates the whole "not too bright" comment :/

personally I don't even think it's fair to use her behavior in season 1 as evidence in slighting her intelligence because, given how young and sheltered she is, her naivete is more than understandable IMO. If anything, the fact that she grows from that and learns to maneuver herself within such a toxic and hostile environment proves that she's far from lacking in intelligence.

tbh I don't agree much with any of these, there's a lot of oversimplifying IMO :/
rubyboots 11th-Sep-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
Dany is the only one I care about anymore.
tychesong 12th-Sep-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
MTE. When aFfC came out sans Dany I put off reading it for almost two years. I felt so cheated!
pamuya 11th-Sep-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
whore with a heart of gold? after what she does to tyrion? f that
watermeloncholy 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
well he paid her to fuck him and that's that.

he knew what he was getting himself into--he even says that he's paying her to feign affection for him. tyrion isn't an idiot so i don't know why he thought she'd actually fallen in love with him.


Edited at 2012-09-11 01:27 am (UTC)
anolinde 11th-Sep-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
Plus, who knows if she had much of a choice in sleeping with Tywin.
pamuya 11th-Sep-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
well, yeah i mean you could totally see where that relationship was going but heart of gold wtf. more like she wants gold and pities him ugh

i hope they keep her the way she is in the books on the series SOMEWHAT. like, betraying tyrion. idc if shes nice to sansa, i like that part of her tv character (and i guess thats where they were going with this)
andgedem 11th-Sep-2012 02:50 am (UTC)
WAT! omgomgomg

Sorry, I'm still on the second book...
adlanth 11th-Sep-2012 10:27 am (UTC)
Yeah, but if she'd conformed to the Whore of the Heart of Gold (TM) archetype, I think she would probably have fallen in love with him, and possibly died in some tragic but loyal way.
I don't think Shae's a bad person for doing what she did/being coerced into doing it, but I think it's true she doesn't fit the archetype.
sereniti_ii 12th-Sep-2012 10:17 am (UTC)
That still doesn't maker her have a heart of gold. More like just a low class Cersei....sleeping her way to favor. I hate that her and Sansa "connect", they are two different realms, tbh.
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 01:30 am (UTC)
lol what does she owe tyrion tho
miakun 11th-Sep-2012 01:33 am (UTC)
We don't know any of her motivations, because like all whores in these books, they only get shown through Tyrion's POV.
brokenseas 11th-Sep-2012 01:34 am (UTC)
Nhf Tyrion apologists
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:43 am (UTC)
I'm waiting for Tyrion to die. But he's GRRM's pet so he wont.
furato 11th-Sep-2012 02:11 am (UTC)
TV Shae is a better person than book Shae. And even then, she book Shae's only doing shit to Tyrion because he allows himself to buy into the lie he commissioned himself.
richinlaughter 11th-Sep-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
I've never been able to blame Shae for betraying Tyrion. What, she was going to say no to his father? When Cersei clearly knows what's up and could have her killed or raped at any time?
ty_slilreject 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
Dany is still my favorite. It'd be really cool to see Feminist Frequency's take on this.
hera_bearrra 11th-Sep-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
Are they still making videos -- after that whole video games debacle.
queenweasley 11th-Sep-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
what?
itsafunny_thing 11th-Sep-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
que?
askldorfism 11th-Sep-2012 07:51 am (UTC)
No recent ones - she's still working on getting the first of the video game series out, I think.

for updates: http://www.feministfrequency.com/


verdhandi 11th-Sep-2012 10:22 am (UTC)
omg, I went looking for details and... this whole thing is fucking scary.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/internet/2012/07/what-online-harassment-looks

trigger warning: fictional graphic depictions of rape and abuse

How did I miss this when it first happened?
cyberghostface 11th-Sep-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
If she doesn't like Clarice Starling or Mattie Ross than she's probably going to find a way to discredit Dany.
fancycarousel 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)

javamonster983 11th-Sep-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
love it
dolce_piccante 11th-Sep-2012 01:30 am (UTC)
AHHHHHHHHHH! i am HOWLING at this!!!!
pamuya 11th-Sep-2012 01:31 am (UTC)
lmao for some reason i am laughing more at robert in this

hes like 'oh my god why am i next to this kid, he is NOT MY BROTHER'
woundedseraphim 11th-Sep-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
first i lol'd but then i'm looking at renly's shorts and i'm just like "that's against school dress code, probs"
daianara 11th-Sep-2012 01:33 am (UTC)
ugh my king, still not over it
wigsnatcher 11th-Sep-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
deadddddd
music_lover56 11th-Sep-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
LMAO
brokenseas 11th-Sep-2012 01:43 am (UTC)
Lmao
hope_remains 11th-Sep-2012 01:55 am (UTC)
this is unbelievable, I love it
midnight_lite 11th-Sep-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
I am laughing so hard my mom asked what was so funny
anydoppelganger 11th-Sep-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
baratheon bros, MY FAVE
fourplusthree 11th-Sep-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
:')
i know the boy in the middle /csb
cerseilannister 11th-Sep-2012 02:42 am (UTC)
stiff ass stannis
chelsea2162 11th-Sep-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
OHMAHGAW
agatharuncible 11th-Sep-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
Robert's "o.O" face is killing me omg
joaniemaloney 11th-Sep-2012 03:51 am (UTC)
PERFECTION.
oktobergoud 11th-Sep-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
OMG DYING
love_keiko 11th-Sep-2012 02:53 pm (UTC)
YES!!!!!
midnightblack07 13th-Sep-2012 02:26 am (UTC)
lol Renlyyy <333
woundedseraphim 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
deceiving to advance the careers of her horrible children, or should we call them spawn (for, Grendel-like, truly they are children whom only a mother could love)

r00d, Myrcella & Tommen are precious.

Also: lol @ Daenerys being smart
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
and I think whoever wrote this article is missing the entire point of asoiaf tbh

grrm makes it a point to flip archetypes on their heads, sooo

has this person read the books? I skimmed tbh
sparkz0r 11th-Sep-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
IKR, though half the time I wonder if some the writers of the show have read the books.
m_pendulum 11th-Sep-2012 01:58 am (UTC)
I did a C+F for deconstruction and got nada so I moved on.
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 02:00 am (UTC)
you WOULD be so efficient, bb <3

I read and mini-raged, tbh. too many asoiaf feels this weekend for some reason
miakun 11th-Sep-2012 01:59 am (UTC)
Yeah exactly, sheesh.
anydoppelganger 11th-Sep-2012 02:28 am (UTC)
came in here just to say this
midnightblack07 13th-Sep-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
Ikr, I feel like this is such an oversimplification of these characters IDEK :/
sandvich 11th-Sep-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
. Sansa Stark, sister to the Tomboy, is not too bright and is often punished for her vapid and romantic delusions. In case you had any doubt which, the Tomboy or the Princess, is more appealing to contemporary audiences, compare what happens to poor Sansa to her clear-minded, independent sister.

This whole paragraph is gross.

Also, OP, I thought of you the other day! I was watching a horror movie called Dorothy Mills and halfway through I realized the main character was Carice van Houten. She's so gorgeous it slays me.
watermeloncholy 11th-Sep-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
Aboslutely disgusting tbh
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
this whole ARTICLE is gross, lbr
bienenkiste 11th-Sep-2012 01:33 am (UTC)
IKR rme
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:35 am (UTC)
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
Shit I mean in response to Dorothy Mills comment. Not to the author's stupid remark about Sansa.
squirtodile 11th-Sep-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
Seriously fuck off with that bs
feathersandgold 11th-Sep-2012 01:45 am (UTC)
yeah, not liking this article at all
bathstone 11th-Sep-2012 01:58 am (UTC)
This isn't sexist at ALL. Dumb article.
hateistoodark 11th-Sep-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
mte
midnightblack07 13th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
uggh mte

the author managed to do a disservice to nearly every one of these characters tbh :/
anolinde 11th-Sep-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
Melisandre pisses me the fuck off. I just cannot with ~mythical priest(ess)~ figures. If I have to hear her say "the night is dark and full of terrors" one more time, I will not be responsible for my reaction.
rubyboots 11th-Sep-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
seriously I cannot STAND her in the books OR on the show
londonshowers 11th-Sep-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
not even in ADWD?
soavantgarde 11th-Sep-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
I dislike her a lot too, but I love carice

the actors are making me dislike team dragonstone less and less and I haaaate it
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:36 am (UTC)


Have you read the books perchance? Read ADWD and then get back to me.
brokenseas 11th-Sep-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
I hated her at first when I read the books because lbr that prologue chapter in ACOK is like the worst intro to a bunhc of new characters EVER when you first read it, but after reading them all I find her so fascinating. She's one character that I have NO idea how they will play out in the grand scheme of things.
sandvich 11th-Sep-2012 01:50 am (UTC)
Melisandre became one of my favorite characters once I realized that she doesn't have any more of a clue about what's going on than anybody else. She does have a couple of magical powers, but mostly she just makes shit up, acts smug about it and bullshits her way through an explanation anything that didn't go according to plan. Melisandre has an idea? CLEARLY IT CAME FROM THE LORD OF LIGHT. Stannis was defeated in the Battle of Blackwater? THE LORD OF LIGHT WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS OKAY.

Eating Cheerios for breakfast? I WOKE UP AND THOUGHT OF CHEERIOS IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VISION FROM THE LORD OF LIGHT.
cerseilannister 11th-Sep-2012 02:00 am (UTC)
I like her, but then I never thought she was really mythical~. It's obvs she's scheming some shit and I wanna know what.
showmesara 11th-Sep-2012 10:08 am (UTC)
That's how I feel about Dany. The whole "I'm blood of the goddamn dragon, now bow to me you motherfucker" just leaves me disliking her. meh.
love_keiko 11th-Sep-2012 02:57 pm (UTC)
HATE her in the show. love her in the books. and i feel like my feelings for her on the show have less to do with carice and more to do with the writing.
nekokonneko 11th-Sep-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
The Princess. Sansa Stark, sister to the Tomboy, is not too bright and is often punished for her vapid and romantic delusions. In case you had any doubt which, the Tomboy or the Princess, is more appealing to contemporary audiences, compare what happens to poor Sansa to her clear-minded, independent sister.


Sansa, not bright? Who the fuck wrote this tripe?
wonderwomanhero 11th-Sep-2012 01:38 am (UTC)
Ann Marie Rasmussen

Professor of Germanic Languages & Literature, Duke University

According to the source.
brokenseas 11th-Sep-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
Oh that's really embarrassing.
javamonster983 11th-Sep-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
ehh, i am not liking that sansa paragraph tbh. "vapid and romantic delusions"? romantic, sure. vapid, she's like 12. that's what she does
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