ONTD

6:21 am - 09/05/2012

Nothing will happen to Lady Gaga, shes still here



Just call her Lady Nada...at least as far as this year's MTV Video Music Awards are concerned.

When the nominations for Thursday night's awards show were announced and Lady Gaga got exactly zero, it was the snub heard round the world—or at least in the lands most populated by Little Monsters. How to account for a clean shut-out of the superstar some would still consider our reigning female pop icon?

Only the collective voters know for sure, but going into this week's telecast, we've got seven theories about why she's suddenly the Invisible Lady.



1. Blowback from last year's Jo Calderone monologue. When Gaga opened last year's show doing seemingly endless improv as her male greaser alter ego, Jo Calderone, it went over about as well as Clint Eastwood at this year's Republican convention. And you don't think the GOP will be inviting Clint back to the podium in 2016, do you? There were grumblings that Gaga, who previously could do little wrong, had gotten cocky enough to think TV viewers would enjoy seeing her do anything. Of course, the MTV voters are supposed to be going on the quality of her videos, not whether they appreciated her live-TV schtick. But for some who were already on the cusp of thinking Gaga had gotten too big for her britches, last year's "Jo" jive may have seemed like a jump-the-shark moment.

2. Provocation fatigue. The shock of the new can get old. Perhaps you can only reinvent your look so many times before folks get weary. "You don't have to challenge us with a new image every time, Gaga. Wear the meat dress twice. It's okay."

3. Born This Way backlash. However much you did or didn't enjoy Gaga's latest album, few fans would argue it was her best. The Meat Loaf-goes-disco sound wasn't for everyone, and at the tail end of the album cycle, there was little motivation even among supporters to keep rewarding it. In the music industry, as well, there's still a lingering feeling that it was overhyped and that its 1.1 million in certified first-week sales represented a cheat because 440,000 of those were sold by Amazon for 99 cents. The huge drop-off in sales following that first week (in the subsequent 16 months, it's only sold about another 1.1 million copies) indicated it didn't have much The Fame-style traction.


4. Maybe the eligible videos just stunk. Maybe MTV's voters weren't sending any implicit message about Gaga being over, or even uncool, but just thought her two eligible videos didn't cut the mustard. Her self-directed "Marry The Night," released last December, was largely seen as a big mess of hubris (sample dialogue: "I'm gonna be a star. You know why? Because I have nothing left to lose"), and an unwieldy mixture of dadaism and showbiz corn. Given a length that clocked in at 14 minutes of self-importance, how many people had it in them to watch it a second time? The "You And I" video, which was released a few months earlier, had gone over much better. But not everyone loved hearing her country side in the tune. And by some standards the melange of imagery was a mess. On the plus side, you had Gaga as a sexy mermaid. On the bummer side, you had...oh no!...the dreaded Jo Calderone.


5. The MTV voters who shut her out are fickle friends who take the channel's most valuable icon for granted. Well, that is one explanation.

6. She's completely over. In your dreams, haters.

7. Lady Gaga is between album cycles, and sometimes it's best to let the fields lie fallow. By this reasoning, MTV Awards voters were really doing Gaga a huge favor by not nominating her. The so-called snub really represents giving people a break from the superstar's overpowering dominance for a while, so that when she comes back with her next album, which she's revealed will be called ARTPOP, it won't feel like pop fans have been subjected to ceaseless overexposure. This theory probably gives the voters too much credit for imagining and following her marketing team's strategy.

But it is possible that even the voters who still adore Gaga figured she's such a juggernaut, everyone else would be casting their ballots for her. Jo Calderone may murder the English language, but he couldn't have singlehandedly killed Lady Gaga's mojo...could he?


What's your theory about Gaga's unexpected VMAs shutout?

SOURCY!

Note: I love lady gaga, I admire her beauty and strength and humbleness. I love you, Gagaloo.


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tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:25 am (UTC)
1. because she didn't make a good video in the past year

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vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:31 am (UTC)


marry the night is an amazing video

it's just that the video >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the song tbh

tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:32 am (UTC)
i'm sorry but

how can you expect me to take a video in which gaga writhes around naked throwing cheerios around while screaming JE SUIS UN ARTISE seriously though
allysqpkt 5th-Sep-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
I adore the video as well as the song. So damn much. I play it nearly every day. Although I havent seen the video in a while, I still think about what a great directorial debut it was for her.
distantechoes4 5th-Sep-2012 04:14 pm (UTC)
Her best video along with Alejandro and Bad Romance. An absolute masterpiece. Too bad the general audience is too stupid for it.
lumosofmylife 5th-Sep-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
You didn't lie.
alouds 5th-Sep-2012 02:40 am (UTC)
yup
redlipped 5th-Sep-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
No its bc Gaga's music is already tired. She needs to start doing collabs with like Lana or ASAP Rocky or Azealia like pronto, or she needs to reinvent her sound (going dubstep, grime or rap-y, 80s, or dark industrial, something else besides tired dance music plz!)

Her music is soooo boring. I love her style and personality, but the music is just way too fucking basic.
bradentastic 5th-Sep-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
i agree. ALL of her videos from born this way were trite and overblown. end of story.
haverchuck_bill 5th-Sep-2012 10:54 am (UTC)
yup
carazon 5th-Sep-2012 01:43 pm (UTC)
yup.
tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
but I love how Rihanna went from being completely snubbed last year to having the most nominations of anybody (aside from Drake) this year
fiercenessness 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
Even outside of the context of this being a boring year for music videos, Rihanna did have some good videos.
honey_fuggle 5th-Sep-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
Pretty much. But seriously her WFL video was amazing. Favorite video tbh.
tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:38 am (UTC)
omg lol this comment is basically saying

ponpiri 5th-Sep-2012 02:47 am (UTC)
I'm far from a Rih stan, but I think this video should win all the awards.

rocknrollroots 5th-Sep-2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
lmao A+
redlipped 5th-Sep-2012 03:42 am (UTC)
Rihanna has stepped it up with unique style and lots of collabs. Thats what got her the nominations this year.
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:28 am (UTC)
lol it's because neither y&i or mtn made waves with the people who vote, and if they did, it was so long ago that most people wouldn't even think of them.




stayin'n'slayin
no_urges 5th-Sep-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
are they still dating? i hope so. me gusta
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:38 am (UTC)
please yes

the word needs their hot sex
flamed65 5th-Sep-2012 02:50 am (UTC)
wait the guy on the right is gay? i remember him from the kylie minogue concert and thinking he was sooo fine
gorlplz 5th-Sep-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
mark and jeremy?
_andrea 5th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
Who honestly watches this award show for the awards? Were all just waiting for a new train wreck.
tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
everybody says that every single year is bad for ____ tho
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:49 am (UTC)
it was such a good year for music for me, I heard a bunch of non-new release bands/albums for the first time. eargasm tbh.
bradentastic 5th-Sep-2012 05:06 am (UTC)
right?! amazing year for music tbh
jeugd1 5th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
Her ass ain't going no where, this Queen is here to stay
the backlash she got reminds me of the one Madonna got in 92 with Erotica


And I wanted to add that littlemonsters.com is a hot mess, there are CHILDREN who are members but people keep posting porn
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
ummmmmmmm the erotica comparison is REACHING
jeugd1 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
LOL not the songs of the albums but the fact that they both flopped when the singers decided to take risks in music
snappple 5th-Sep-2012 02:33 am (UTC)
Except Madonna got the backlash like 10 years into her career.
honey_fuggle 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
Queen?
ladywilde80 5th-Sep-2012 11:40 am (UTC)
Stay pressed darling.
mario_06 5th-Sep-2012 02:29 am (UTC)
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tink_1326 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
HAHAHAHA
simplylovable 5th-Sep-2012 02:46 am (UTC)
if your in a room with eminem and he thinks youre the weird one, its pretty much settled rt
expromqueen 5th-Sep-2012 04:08 am (UTC)
now i want a slim jim
hagar_tammaa 5th-Sep-2012 01:53 pm (UTC)
I lol'd
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:33 am (UTC)
it's honestly astounding to watch you open your mouth and say more and more crazy things

gaga breathed life into the modern music video scene

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no_urges 5th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
and how on earth was her paparazzi performance at the vmas anything but ICONIC
alouds 5th-Sep-2012 02:39 am (UTC)
if by breath new life into you mean put out a string of pretty looking videos with relatively no plot or story filled with her and her "outlandish" get ups for her entire first album until she put out paparazzi and then make another good video with bad romance then steadily decline in terms of music video quality to the point where we see the MTN video then ok
ilovedogs 5th-Sep-2012 05:13 am (UTC)
Oh hey, ONTD Resident Gaga Cheerleader!

I see those terrible people brought up her 99 cent album again and how she would not have reached the charts had it not been for the 99 cent thing.

I know, she had nothing to do with it, yaddda, yaddda, yaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddda.

I am glad she is shut out.

That is where she deserves to be.
wincest_dean 5th-Sep-2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
lol
alouds 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
ia with this except for her 2009 performance

she's been nothing but a consistent disappointment since her latest record and by the looks of things for her next one i'm holding no expectations...i was a super stan in 2008 but i've since come to realize what a trollop this woman is
gorlplz 5th-Sep-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
her best videos are paparazzi bad romance and telephone anyway

her btw videos are a M E S S
alouds 5th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
bow @ this flawless taste
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
BTW & Y&I suffered from the same problems (problems hinted at in telephone), TEOG was a hoooorrible mess, but MtN was just amazing. It was long, but since the prelude was released in advance it allows the non-prelude parts to be taken much more separately, and sort of as twin pillars rather than a cohesive 14-minute long story, it works.
gorlplz 5th-Sep-2012 02:39 am (UTC)
btw: not here for all the stiff dancing in the dark
judas: all over the place just like the song
edge of glory: b o r i n g
you and i: see edge of glory
marry the night: best one of the btw era, still all over the place and that stiff dancing again

she better go hard with artflop
rctshack 5th-Sep-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
I understand that marry the night meant something to you as a fan, but truthfully, it was a mess all around. The visuals were there which goes more towards the production team and cinematographer but the overall feeling of the video along with her random moments did nothing for me, or most people it seems.

I'm not knocking fans for liking it, but I will knock them for being sooooo defiant that other people can't dislike it. It just missed the mark with what most people wanted in a music video. Maybe the difference is that most people don't want a 15 minute non-complete jumbled and confusing story about something personal that we don't really know much about, but some fans do because it gives you an insight to her that you didn't have before, but for the rest of us, we just wanted a good music video with a storyline we could follow easily. Just like with movies, the best ones are the movies that go deep, but also appeal to the general public and don't leave them confused.

Maybe MTN is like Lost the tv show. Most people didn't understand, the hardcore fans obsessed over it, but in the end nothing really made sense. The difference being that Lost was actually really well done.
hazel_belle 5th-Sep-2012 02:38 am (UTC)
I agree
derezzed 5th-Sep-2012 02:39 am (UTC)
truth
soft_volume 5th-Sep-2012 03:02 am (UTC)
yes, ia! fame monster videos were ace.
hypnology 5th-Sep-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
I think any of her videos that are longer than 4 minutes are shit. I'm sorry I'm not there to watch a movie; I just want to see a video the length of the song.
kimberwyn 5th-Sep-2012 03:14 am (UTC)
telephone was lame
camillesaens 5th-Sep-2012 03:32 am (UTC)
iaw/ u all the time
xevochic 5th-Sep-2012 05:03 am (UTC)
her best videos are paparazzi bad romance and telephone anyway
IA!!

Although I'm sad no one talks about Eh, Eh. That video was so cute, light-hearted, and so classically summed up her look in The Fame. It remains my personal fav. (Except her skin is so damn orange. wtf) I guess it's not edgy enough to be bitterly forgotten like Alejandro and not artsy enough to be praised like Bad Romance.

Paparazzi >>> everything she's made tho
backincharge 5th-Sep-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
Telephone was bad IMO. It was fun but it was too long and didn't go with the song at all. It's what started the trend of shitty videos for her. Big messes with random ass shit thrown in that didn't flow together at all.

Too much shit goes on in her videos now. She keeps trying too hard to top bad Romance and she won't with videos that have 50 trillion things going on in them.
rocknrollroots 5th-Sep-2012 01:27 pm (UTC)
agreed
callmemaybeplz 5th-Sep-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
"Judas" was the best video from BTW imo she looked so good
no_urges 5th-Sep-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
was judas ineligible? idk why she keeps flogging "you and i" and "marry the night." they were both the messiest videos of the era.
tankmachine 5th-Sep-2012 02:33 am (UTC)
i think Judas got some technical nominations last year
no_urges 5th-Sep-2012 02:42 am (UTC)
yeah, i guess it must have been early enough in 2011 to be eligible for that year's VMAs.
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:44 am (UTC)
only y&i and mtn were up for possible noms
slacker_chic 5th-Sep-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
I love her but You and I gave me anxiety and shit. It was settle the fuck down. Quit running crazy, quit acting manic. It's a really good song and would have been better served being toned down.
duotangle 5th-Sep-2012 02:32 am (UTC)
Was there a post on her candids for the past few days?
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:45 am (UTC)
in the green suit? no. (just check her tag if you are ever wondering, it lives permanently at the top of ontd)
honey_fuggle 5th-Sep-2012 02:33 am (UTC)
I seriously forgot she even released music this past year. BTW just wasn't good. Too much hype and it just didn't live up to expectations. Just my opinion. But seriously, Gaga needs to get over herself. I'm not here for "artpop"...
snappple 5th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
fartpop will do what flop this way failed to achieve, it will be the album of this generation.
honey_fuggle 5th-Sep-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
A+ for sarcasm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited at 2012-09-05 02:48 am (UTC)
redlipped 5th-Sep-2012 03:43 am (UTC)
lol
goldenlockets 5th-Sep-2012 02:26 pm (UTC)
lmao
gorlplz 5th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
the album had some interesting production

but the overall direction of the era was just a hot mess
vanishingbee 5th-Sep-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
I'm always baffled at the hype backlash because I was barely on ontd at the time and so pretty much knew when the album was coming out and that was it. I wasn't that excited for it until TEOG came out.
cluelessraf 5th-Sep-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
I don't think shes over tbh, but I do think she needs to get her creative juices back. BTW (the album) felt forced.
snappple 5th-Sep-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
She was never creative, her image was based on ripping off the really creative underground acts.
gorlplz 5th-Sep-2012 02:40 am (UTC)
every pop artist does tho
cluelessraf 5th-Sep-2012 02:43 am (UTC)
I don't disagree that she was way too hyped, but Bad Romance and Paparazzi are awesome songs. I think she just needs to calm down and make good songs, she is talented (compared to katy, rihanna, britney) but definitely not the best popstar.
redlipped 5th-Sep-2012 03:45 am (UTC)
IA. It seems like she turned from the Xtina route to the Britney route. Making classic, unique, memorable songs to just put out any old disposable dance track and thinking it would sell.
fiercenessness 5th-Sep-2012 02:36 am (UTC)
It's not really about how good or bad they were. Nobody was talking about her videos this year.
vampireweekend 5th-Sep-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
ia
redlipped 5th-Sep-2012 03:46 am (UTC)
IA, but the good thing is, this will push her to try a million times harder and she'll start putting out quality and shocking stuff again thankfully.
backincharge 5th-Sep-2012 06:05 am (UTC)
People are over her shocking get up though. It lost it's charm a couple years ago.
scheisse 5th-Sep-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
the Judas video has over 100m views hehe
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