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What Does Apple/Samsung Verdict Mean for Consumer + Apple CEO & Samsung Respond

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Tim Cook Addresses Apple Employees After Lawsuit Victory

Today was an important day for Apple and for innovators everywhere.

Many of you have been closely following the trial against Samsung in San Jose for the past few weeks. We chose legal action very reluctantly and only after repeatedly asking Samsung to stop copying our work. For us this lawsuit has always been about something much more important than patents or money. It's about values. We value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. And we do this to delight our customers, not for competitors to flagrantly copy.

We owe a debt of gratitude to the jury who invested their time in listening to our story. We were thrilled to finally have the opportunity to tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung's copying went far deeper than we knew.

The jury has now spoken. We applaud them for finding Samsung's behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn't right.

I am very proud of the work that each of you do.

Today, values have won and I hope the whole world listens.

Tim

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Samsung's Released Statement

Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple’s claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.



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What the Apple-Samsung verdict means for your smartphone


The historic patent battle between Apple and Samsung has come to an end, with the verdict largely favoring Apple -- and it's likely to ripple across the entire smartphone industry.

Apple and Samsung accused each other of infringing on software patents; Apple's allegations also included a few design patents.

A California jury on Friday found Samsung had infringed on the majority of the patents in question -- including software features like double-tap zooming and scrolling -- and recommended that Apple be awarded more than $1 billion in damages. On the design front, many Samsung devices were found to infringe on hardware style or icon setup.

Samsung is widely expected to appeal the ruling, but as it stands now, the verdict could significantly affect both smartphone users and other industry players.

What happens to my Samsung phone? Apple's design and software claims involved scores of Samsung devices, including the Nexus S 4G and S II.

As a result of the ruling, Apple could request an injunction against the Samsung devices that were found to have infringed on its patents. That means Samsung could be forced to take those gadgets off the market until they are changed.

If you already own the devices in question, though, don't worry: Even with an injunction, no one can pry the phone out of your hands. But it's possible that your phone could receive a software update that tweaks how it looks and works.

What about my Samsung Galaxy tablet? This category offered one spot of good news for Samsung: The jury ruled that Samsung's Galaxy Tab tablets did not infringe on Apple's design patents for the iPad.

What does the ruling mean for Google and Android? Samsung wasn't able to prove any of Apple's patents invalid, which is the major point that could affect other smartphone industry titans.

Armed with loads of significant patents now deemed valid in court, Apple could go on to sue other companies -- namely, Android maker Google and its hardware partners.

Samsung is the largest manufacturer of Android devices, and while the software does vary a bit across manufacturers, it's largely similar. So smartphone makers could be sued for similar software infringements, and Google may have to tweak Android's user interface.

Google's shares were down about 1% in after-hours trading late Friday, while Apple's stock jumped nearly 2% to a record high near $675.

Will we see any changes to future phone and tablet hardware? The verdict strengthened Apple's design identity, and competitors may now be afraid to even toe the line of the iDevices' "look and feel."

Chris Carani, an intellectual property attorney and design law expert at McAndrews, Held & Malloy, says the verdict could spark "a burst of creativity" in the design of future devices. Competitors won't want to risk being slapped with a design infringement lawsuit, given that it costs so much money to roll out a new smartphone or tablet.

"Competitors will have to go back to the drawing board, and give their designers more creative license," Carani says. "They'll have to create something very different as far as the visual experience, and that choice could be a great benefit for consumers."

What happens now? Does Samsung have to pay up? Before the verdict even came down, industry experts predicted that an appeal would be all but certain in this complex case.

Samsung alluded strongly to that point in a statement e-mailed to CNN after the verdict: "This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims."

The statement continued: "It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners."

Apple, of course, was thrilled with the ruling: "The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung's copying went far deeper than even we knew."

Samsung has to be sorely disappointed, but it has enough cash to handle the $1 billion ruling with relative ease: It earned $12 billion last year and has $14 billion in cash in the bank.

If Samsung does choose to appeal, it's unclear what timeline that move will follow. The case involved 109 pages of instructions, a fact that made headlines, although in a surprise move, the jury came back with a verdict after only three days. To top of page


Thought this was interesting as far as how us consumers will be affected and how this will shape the entire industry as a whole. Steve Jobs must be happy right now.
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copasetic 25th-Aug-2012 10:44 am (UTC)
It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners.

lol
riookierin 25th-Aug-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
Lol Ikr?
ectypes 25th-Aug-2012 03:26 pm (UTC)
my favorite part of this whole post
sky3205 25th-Aug-2012 03:40 pm (UTC)
sad but true, tbh
iluvkidnappers 25th-Aug-2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
mhmm
the_rocklobster 25th-Aug-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
Throw that shade, Samsung.
menageohthree 25th-Aug-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
LOL Oh Samsung, you tried.
georgie_georgie 25th-Aug-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
I love this part.
swanwitch 25th-Aug-2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
I smell butthurt.
miwa201 25th-Aug-2012 10:45 am (UTC)
I have the Samsung Galaxy tablet and it annoys me so much. I tried to read a .pdf on it and it took me ages.
fever 25th-Aug-2012 11:13 am (UTC)
which tablet do you have? mine only reads epub files and some others, not pdf
miwa201 25th-Aug-2012 11:43 am (UTC)
I'm not sure, I can't check now. But it looks like the Tab 7.0 from that photo above.
metatrix 25th-Aug-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
...you're doing it wrong.
vanishingbee 25th-Aug-2012 12:30 pm (UTC)
I've heard the blackberry tablet is amazing
metatrix 25th-Aug-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
what? I have the samsung galaxy tab and I love it. you're doing it wrong.
ourcarscollide 25th-Aug-2012 10:53 am (UTC)
I work in IP and after my dad saw this story on the news he pestered me with all these questions. It was hilarious.
leatherandjeans 25th-Aug-2012 11:02 am (UTC)
Good tbh. Now Samsung can finally get off their arses and use some creativity in their products. This will only mean good things for consumers.
logan_lerman 25th-Aug-2012 11:17 am (UTC)
mte
not everything needs to be an iPad/iPhone knock-off
stewie_e 25th-Aug-2012 12:04 pm (UTC)
exactly.
pinkprincessnat 25th-Aug-2012 12:10 pm (UTC)
exactly
kydeon 25th-Aug-2012 12:17 pm (UTC)
Looking forward to my hexagonal tablet.
chuk_is_dazzled 25th-Aug-2012 12:30 pm (UTC)
Lol
bienenkiste 25th-Aug-2012 01:21 pm (UTC)
LOL
gata007 25th-Aug-2012 03:23 pm (UTC)
Hahaha. The best!
ectypes or25th-Aug-2012 03:28 pm (UTC)
amethystcitrine 25th-Aug-2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
hahah
despedida 25th-Aug-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
bc apple is so innovative & creative.
fever 25th-Aug-2012 11:10 am (UTC)
I have a first galaxy tab, sII and a galaxy note in my family. couldn't care less for apple products, 'cause Samsung is awesome.
it's just funny how a brick shaped phone can only be iphone and others must be copying. it's like to say that any designer making a little black dress stole the idea from coco. make a phone in an unusual shape then we'll talk patents.
metatrix 25th-Aug-2012 02:27 pm (UTC)
I love samsung products too. I have a galaxy tab 7.0 plus and an SII. They are so much more user-friendly than apple products, imo.
riookierin 25th-Aug-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
Ita!
mountainsea 25th-Aug-2012 03:20 pm (UTC)
galaxy sII is the BEST thing
mhfromnh 25th-Aug-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
I want that Galaxy S whatever phone. you know the "iPhone Killer" I don't want to buy Apple products anyway.
kimberwyn 26th-Aug-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
dang it I wish I knew about this phone before I got my iphone a few weeks ago. I hate the feeling of handing over $$$ to that company.
fever 26th-Aug-2012 06:42 am (UTC)
galaxy sII and sIII are the bomb. I'm writing rn from one.
cricketgrl 25th-Aug-2012 11:26 am (UTC)
People better run to the stores and grab a tablet before they are taken off the shelves. For those that already have one... LUCKY BITCHES.
iheartfamke 25th-Aug-2012 03:53 pm (UTC)
I'm waiting for the windows tablet to come out. My body is ready!
clockworkblack 25th-Aug-2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
I just bought a galaxy nexus phone literally 2 days ago.. whew.
theunreliables 26th-Aug-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
lol I bought a Galaxy S2X on Tuesday. fml
srparker328 25th-Aug-2012 11:35 am (UTC)
fuck apple, for real.
herocksdude 25th-Aug-2012 03:57 pm (UTC)
Amen, I think this whole ordeal is insane
mhfromnh 25th-Aug-2012 08:34 pm (UTC)


Edited at 2012-08-25 08:35 pm (UTC)
onyxobsidian 25th-Aug-2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
This is an obnoxious photo. Everyone I know uses Macs (also, not Mac's as this image says) and I don't associate with hipsters.
theunreliables 26th-Aug-2012 03:35 am (UTC)
I take my MacBook to Starbucks because I can't concentrate at home. :(

Not a hipster but I'm working on the beard. /woman
forbidden_john 25th-Aug-2012 11:42 am (UTC)
This isn't about values. That's bullshit. It's about money. This is one of the most lucrative markets in the world and everyone wants to dominate. Let's not dress this up as being about values.
beemo 25th-Aug-2012 11:44 am (UTC)
when is the apple vs. microsoft lawsuit happening?
arianna_meli 25th-Aug-2012 01:48 pm (UTC)


xtinkerbellax 25th-Aug-2012 01:55 pm (UTC)
lol I went to the Apple store last month to get a new battery for my macbook and I passed the Microsoft store, this is so accurate.
mikeblitzz 25th-Aug-2012 02:09 pm (UTC)
I saw this the other day at the mall and was so confused as I was looking for the mac store lol
grammaire 25th-Aug-2012 02:15 pm (UTC)
God, they aren't even trying.
sassyfancypants 25th-Aug-2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
HAHAHAHA! They couldn't at least change the storefront color or change the glass somehow?! What derps.
mountainsea 25th-Aug-2012 03:25 pm (UTC)
already happened bb. apple sued microsoft over a fucking graphical user interface

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation

apple didn't get anything lol

and remember what gates said :
Their meeting was in Jobs’s conference room, where Gates found himself surrounded by ten Apple employees who were eager to watch their boss assail him. Jobs didn’t disappoint his troops. “You’re ripping us off!” he shouted. “I trusted you, and now you’re stealing from us!” Gates just sat there coolly, looking Steve in the eye, before hurling back, in his squeaky voice, what became a classic zinger. “Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.”

burn.

Edited at 2012-08-25 03:25 pm (UTC)
courtkneee1 25th-Aug-2012 11:45 am (UTC)
I just got a tablet and I kind of regret it. I tried reading or watching things on it but it's kind of too heavy for that. :/ surfing is slow -- i'd rather get up and search on my laptop or do it on my phone with one hand.

also i still feel like an idiot if I use it in public.
bienenkiste 25th-Aug-2012 01:22 pm (UTC)
which one did you get
courtkneee1 25th-Aug-2012 01:42 pm (UTC)
asus infinity. it also crashed 3 times since I got it so I'm bitter.
andi88 25th-Aug-2012 01:32 pm (UTC)
Which tablet do you have and did you not get a case that allows it to stand/rest on it?
empirebird 25th-Aug-2012 02:43 pm (UTC)
kindle fire is good for stuff like that.
homicidalslayer 25th-Aug-2012 11:49 am (UTC)
Samsung should've spent less time studying Apple's tech and more time diversifying their own.

For those with Samsung products, just wait a few days after software updates become available and read reviews online to figure out which changes you do/don't want to make. Duh.
jaded56 25th-Aug-2012 11:53 am (UTC)
fuck apple!! i wanna sell my nexus and get an s3 because my phone doesn't want to update to Jelly Bean :c
69love_songs 25th-Aug-2012 11:57 am (UTC)
I've got a blackberry and it's shit so I couldn't care less about this tbh.
lanthiere 25th-Aug-2012 03:34 pm (UTC)
Me too. Worst phone I've ever had. It's two years old, buttons are falling off, it's being a dick, and I'm stuck in this contract for another year. Never again tbh.
offinlahlahland 25th-Aug-2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
I've had mine less than a year and the touch pad is caput. I can still get around somewhat with keyboard shortcuts but its not fully functional. :\

Not to mention its shit for wanting to surf the web. nty.
beemo 25th-Aug-2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
flopberries are on notice lbr
invisible_cunt 25th-Aug-2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
same lol

i had to get the touch pad replaced because it began to move on its own
it usually freezes if there's an incoming email while i'm texting or something
surfing sucks monkey balls

i'm stuck with this phone for like another 2 years unless it kills itself before then
arlen_mci 26th-Aug-2012 04:08 am (UTC)
yes this happened to mine exactly. the touchpad thing would go berserk and jump all over the place at all times. finally my phone just randomly stopped turning on one day. I got a cheap phone (palm pixi, its an HP phone which they stopped making a couple yrs ago so it was SUPER cheap like $30) and I am so much happier with that until I can get an upgrade. The HP phones dont have much of an app store but I love at least having a phone that works properly lol
illusivevenstar 25th-Aug-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
Yea when I got to upgrade my phone, I tried the blackberry torch. Touch screen was awfull. Phone was slow.

Thought it might've been the individual phone....tried to exchange for a new phone. But the problems were still there. Switched to iPhone and never looked back.
kimberwyn 26th-Aug-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
Lol I had a blackberry for 3.5 years. It sucked.
shred 25th-Aug-2012 11:57 am (UTC)
i wonder if the jury were iphone/ipad users.
vanishingbee 25th-Aug-2012 12:32 pm (UTC)
I'm sure they weren't tech savvy enough to really understand. 2 or 3 days to deliberate on hundreds of counts = they weren't getting into the nitty gritty that is tech lawsuits.

Edited at 2012-08-25 01:07 pm (UTC)
bestsama 25th-Aug-2012 11:59 am (UTC)
idgi how else is a touch screen tablet supposed to look? did apple patent black rectangles?
chuk_is_dazzled 25th-Aug-2012 12:33 pm (UTC)
Psh the way this is it seems like they did
vanishingbee 25th-Aug-2012 12:33 pm (UTC)
The jury seems to think so
like_i_loveyou 25th-Aug-2012 12:55 pm (UTC)
Apparently they thinking zooming is theirs too. O.o
arianna_meli 25th-Aug-2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
Well that's the point, isn't it? Samsung seemed to have their own ideas about touch screens before the iPad was released. They forgot all about it once the iPad hit the market.

ohyoudo 25th-Aug-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
they invented them, obviously
rctshack 25th-Aug-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
A lot of products are black rectangles. Computer Screen and TV's for example. But it's not about that as much as the blatant copying from their previous product.

If it was such a simple idea/product... then why didn't Samsung make it earlier? Why did Apple have to come out with it first before this "simple generic" product was produced by samsung. And Samsung did almost nothing to make it look different, down to the software and all. Even down to the number of icons in each row.

And if samsung can't find a creative way to compete without copying the same design, then Apple deserves to have the sole market share for thinking of a simple product first. People have the copyrights of stupid simple shit all the time because they thought of it first. Sucks for Samsung, but this product isn't eminent domain. Black 9 inch flat round cornered touchscreen Tablets aren't something that their company needed to produce. Their lack of research and creativity let to them making a blatant rip-off.
lightwillguide 25th-Aug-2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
MS-Invented-The-Tablet-361x700
bellyroomfan 26th-Aug-2012 04:31 am (UTC)
i remember some disney channel original movie around 2003-04 where the lead had a tablet laptop and I WANTED IT SO BAD but it was so expensive. fuck people.
fight_darling 27th-Aug-2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
yeah, but did you use the tablet PC?! I did, it was a pos and really hard to get used to.
kimberwyn 26th-Aug-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
thats what I don't get either? are they supposed to make it a circle or something?
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