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9:10 pm - 08/19/2012

Benedict Cumberbatch: naturally he's a class act

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While being delightedly force-fed 17 days of splendid drama, one annual question has remained resolutely unasked in medialand this August: when will the silly season start?

Worry no more. It kicked in almost as soon as the last firework fizzed out over the last athlete's hangover. It kicked in with something of a confected row over Benedict Cumberbatch – yet a row that has puttered on, because it's about one of those British things about which no consensus can ever be reached yet on which everybody wants an opinion: class. Or Class

On BBC's Breakfast, there were still talking heads debating whether Cumberbatch had been right to "moan" about the occasional sniping he got for being a "posh" actor in this country. The responses were predictable enough. The nicely chippy northern woman declared it "vulgar" of him to even voice a complaint through his mouthful of privilege; the etiquette lady, trying to defend him, said his accent quite possibly held him back from some roles, such as anything involving Danny Boyle. It hasn't, incidentally, most notably when peeling off all on stage for that director's Frankenstein. But if those responses were relatively knee-jerk, that's as nothing to the twitterati, some with something interesting to say about class, a great many without, almost all hampered by the simple Chinese-whisper effect of only having heard that Cumberbatch said something moany about being picked on for being posh.

Let's look at what he actually did say.



Interviewed for Radio Times by Decca Aitkenhead, he talked about sudden real post-Sherlock fame, touched on his personal life and lucidly compared the similarities and differences between that role and the one he brings to our screens soon this Friday, that of Christopher Tietjens in Ford Madox Ford's tetralogy Parade's End, by all early accounts winningly adapted by Tom Stoppard. Both well-spoken, tall, English and Edwardian – in soul anyway, even though Cumberbatch's Sherlock has been so vibrantly updated – and variously tortured gentlemanly souls. But Christopher is taciturn and there is, as Cumberbatch put it, "none of that hyper-articulate mental vomiting. I think people might think, 'Why would he want to do that, because it's nothing like Sherlock?' But that's exactly why."

Then, in some final throwaway comments, he touched upon, or was invited to touch upon, "posh-bashing", and said that sometimes, mainly as a consequence of having been to Harrow, he has been "castigated as a moaning, rich, public-school bastard, complaining about only getting posh roles". Aitkenhead goes on to say: "As he's one of the most gifted, intelligent and likable actors this country has produced, I'm not surprised he can't even be bothered to engage the attack. 'It's just so predictable,' he sighs wearily. 'So domestic and so dumb.' I just hope he's not serious when he adds, 'It makes me think I want to go to America.'"

And there you have it. A half-hearted sigh about being castigated for complaining about only getting posh roles, and what sounds like an end-of-interview joke. Radio Times – perhaps surprisingly for a publication normally viewed as reliable, comprehensive but a bit… Auntie – has, for the past year or two, been knocking out many interviews that have produced the lead item in the next day's papers. They are not averse to taking the slightest of controversies from a celeb's mouth and, while never presumably being actionably inaccurate, still flamming it up to the high heavens. So you can be sure that, had Cumberbatch indulged in any serious kind of rant about class, or seriously "threatened" to go to America, it would have been worked into the intro, if not the headline. And from this, our nation of point-missers erupted into an orgy of castigating him for moaning about only getting posh roles. Which he hadn't.

The problem, of course, is confusion over class: over its very definition, and, in these austere times when we most definitely are not all in it together, over class envy. As soon as John Major pronounced that class was dead, he was condemned – not just for the slightly flatulent wishlist pabulum that clearly wasn't true, but, more crucially, for the flattened vowels in which he said it. Since then, snobberies and ignorances have unwittingly conspired to keep the fluid truth as murkily unknowable as in those early 90s. Poor Benedict even got a mention from the platform from another occasionally misunderstood cove, Michael Gove (like Cumberbatch, another scholarship boy), when he was named, alongside other actors such as Tom Hiddleston and Dominic West, a good handful of leading comedians, the 2010 Mercury winners, England's rugby team, etc, etc, as being inordinately unrepresentative of Britain as a whole, thanks to their fee-paying educations. But Gove – again, read it more carefully – insisted: "It is undeniable that the individuals I have named are hugely talented."

Rather, he was having a passionate pop not at them but at the "morally indefensible" strategy of so many other schools, which allow pupils to leave unable to read, write or add.

But Ben Carlton, as he was once, is now, wittingly or not, part of the usually inane national debate on class and one can only assume his wide-sloping, 36-year-old shoulders have enough heft to cope. Friends say there's not a twitch of doubt about that: he is described as intelligent, yes, but also exuberant, frank, fun and resilient. Both friends and interviewers have spoken and written too of the professional dedication: one second, you've got a relatively young man with an… interesting face – he happily admits to have been described as sexy sloth, startled meerkat, hammerhead shark, but no description prevented him walking away last year with various "sexiest man" and "man of the year" titles – chatting away in a T-shirt at rehearsals, then, on "Action!", transforming those planes of his face in half a second into embodiments of haughty unreason, cold anguish, cruel sarcasm or heart-melting kindness.

It was his agent who suggested he revert to his real name. His father, Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch, and mother, Wanda Ventham, are both actors. "A new agent suggested I go back to Benedict Cumberbatch. I thought it sounded a bit bumbly and messy, but they said it's a great name, it will get people talking about you."

As it did, as did his acting. Long before Sherlock, after Harrow and then swerving becoming a barrister (his first idea) to study drama at Manchester, he was winning plaudits for performances in the likes ofHedda Gabler (Olivier award nomination) and Tipping the VelvetTinker Tailor and his mesmerising portrayal of a young Stephen Hawking, in the run-up to which he met the scientist and talked to a number of motor-neurone sufferers: he apparently pre-prepares to the nth degree, reading, for instance, the works of a Golding or a Conrad (and now Madox Ford) before even venturing into the studio.

He is obviously grateful to the sudden mad leg-up Sherlock has given him, has spoken at length about his admiration for the writing, even his love for the character, and there's no doubt about the transformation in recognisability – as Sherlock writer Steven Moffat has said of this: "Sean Connery was nowhere before James Bond." HBO, who co-producedParade's End with the BBC, was reportedly wary of him because no one knew who he was: they were sternly told "but they will". And they certainly do. More impressive is the fact that, before the magical pairing of Cumberbatch with Martin Freeman in Sherlock, someone thought those two would work well together in the forthcoming The Hobbit – Freeman as Bilbo, Cumberbatch as the dragon Smaug.

There is, as Cumberbatch admits, a slight danger of stereotyping. He loves Sherlock, doesn't want to be defined by it forever and consoles himself with the thought that "no one calls George Clooney 'Doug Ross' any more". For the moment, however, he and we are happily stuck for a bit longer with his personification of the most arrogant sociopath ever to trip down Baker Street and later this year/early next will be able to engage in a massive national debate that is actually worth having. How on earth did Sherlock manage to fake his own death?

BOX LABEL

Born: 19 July 1976, London. Educated at The Brambletye School, West Sussex; scholarship to Harrow; Manchester University; LAMDA. Broke up with long-term (12 years) girlfriend Olivia Poulet last year

Best of times: 2004 began a run of accolades, beginning with the BAFTA nomination for his portrayal of a young, fit, happy, dancing, doomed Stephen Hawking, and there soon followed serious chops for his part in Stuart: A Life Backwards. Also, of course, the first night's broadcast of his first Sherlock, A Study in Pink, which dominated the twittersphere within an hour, and had with two weeks garnered 9m viewers and led Stephen Spielberg, who later cast him in War Horse, to dub him "the greatest ever onscreen Holmes". Sales of Conan Doyle's books instantly rose 180 per cent.

Worst of times: A gap year teaching English to Tibetan monks. We're not saying he didn't enjoy it, just that if he ever should deign to engage in proper class-envy war, then the above phrase sits differently on the page from "year on moors pickling ferrets to help wi' nan's bladderwrack."

What he says: "There are five people at the Royal Court who earn under £500,000 collectively, who bring in over £5m. – that would get you a big bonus in the City. I'm interested in art for all. I don't want it

to be only the sons and daughters of Tory MPs who get to see my

plays."

What others say:

"Cumberbatch … exudes the air of an indie kid in his late teens or

early twenties. He's bright and enthusiastic and friendly – his is the

air of someone who helps mums carry buggies up stairs. When the

read-through starts, however, this gonky teenager disappears. He slips

effortlessly into the stiff-backed, cold-eyed, Pentium-20 brain of

Holmes. His delivery can still the room."

Times writer Caitlin Moran on-set with Sherlock

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babydontsweat 20th-Aug-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
BAH HUMBUG!
lloydsgurl 20th-Aug-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
I went on vacation for a week, and I'm pretty sure this place went from sucking his dick to ~bringing out the jackal~ when his name is mentioned. What happened exactly?
nuclearsex 20th-Aug-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
everyone finally realized what a pompous ass he is. i've always been bringing the jackal on this guy, tbh.
professor_chaos 20th-Aug-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
you do realize you're in ontd where being fickle is pretty much a law here.
lloydsgurl 20th-Aug-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
this is true, I've just never paid attention to him and now there are like a GAZILLION posts about him. kinda tired of seeing that ugly mug on my screen t b h
ladyfly56 20th-Aug-2012 03:22 am (UTC)
i don't think this place ever sucked his dick?

every post of his i've ever been in (prior to this brouhaha) were full of everyone saying how ugly his is, and only a few people defending him.
skeet_skeet 20th-Aug-2012 03:27 am (UTC)
It was a well organized hate campaign tbh. Plus he's very easy to dislike what with his unfortunate looks and personality.
kurtvonnegut 20th-Aug-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
no one was sucking his dick tho

literally every single post about him is always full of haters and has been for months
celtic_thistle 20th-Aug-2012 04:00 am (UTC)
ONTD has always made fun of him.
thewunderland 20th-Aug-2012 07:48 am (UTC)
I think the majority of ONTD always made fun of his looks, but there were quite a few people here who loved him. I've noticed the change too, no clue when it exactly happened but it's entertaining.
givemethepeasx 20th-Aug-2012 11:54 am (UTC)
i think a lot of people always hated him but didn't necessarily go into his posts. and then he said a lot of stupid things so everyones being vocal about their hate.

i didn't really have an opinion on him until recently, the things he's said have made me dislike him.
noon 20th-Aug-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
I just hope he's not serious when he adds, 'It makes me think I want to go to America.'

we have regulations on allowing certain reptilian species into our borders...
nekokonneko 20th-Aug-2012 03:01 am (UTC)
lmao
chuk_is_dazzled 20th-Aug-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
LOL
nuclearsex 20th-Aug-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
A+
twowaymirrrors 20th-Aug-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
lmao
shh_im_a_ninja 20th-Aug-2012 03:10 am (UTC)
LOL
ladypolitik 20th-Aug-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Dying
winniechili 20th-Aug-2012 03:16 am (UTC)
cackle
zoaster_toaster 20th-Aug-2012 03:17 am (UTC)
LOL
mysticlady3 20th-Aug-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
LOL!
chiihiro 20th-Aug-2012 03:36 am (UTC)
He may introduce a foreign strain of E. coli stateside.
secretlemonade 20th-Aug-2012 03:45 am (UTC)
lmao!
aphrodite5239 20th-Aug-2012 03:47 am (UTC)
haha loool
fuk_q 20th-Aug-2012 03:50 am (UTC)
I wish I could like this comment
nebulous_mirage 20th-Aug-2012 04:25 am (UTC)
cackling rn
ruby_winchester 20th-Aug-2012 10:15 am (UTC)
lolll
blocaholic 20th-Aug-2012 10:59 am (UTC)
lmfao
wintourseason 20th-Aug-2012 11:04 am (UTC)
How did Donald Rumsfeld make it in then?
dedradawn 20th-Aug-2012 12:52 pm (UTC)
He's a naturalized reptile.
sereniti_ii 20th-Aug-2012 01:36 pm (UTC)
Courtney Stodden is quite enough, thank you, Benedict.
ninjacandy 21st-Aug-2012 06:27 am (UTC)
death becomes me!
manaconda 20th-Aug-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
this charizard-looking mofo
lestat 20th-Aug-2012 03:01 am (UTC)
insult to charizard tbh
manaconda 20th-Aug-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
maybe he can be a charmeleon. i always thought that they were the simon cowells of the pokemon world.
emmy0001 20th-Aug-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
lol this
tankmachine 20th-Aug-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
i'd fuck charizard before i'd fuck him
trinity_squared 20th-Aug-2012 03:01 am (UTC)
Every time I see a picture of him I IMMEDIATELY think of Will Ferrell.
secretchord 20th-Aug-2012 04:23 am (UTC)
CANNOT UNSEE
scousing 20th-Aug-2012 03:02 am (UTC)
mittens should hire cumberbutt for his campaign
sashafarce 20th-Aug-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
I on occasion still think of George Clooney as Doug Ross.
365reasonswhy 20th-Aug-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
MTE. I fucking loved Doug Ross.
babydontsweat lol20th-Aug-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
just noticed loki eating the popcorn
nuclearsex 20th-Aug-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
melting cat, old world handsome, ugly renaissance baby, middle stage of an animorphs cover, etc.
rexilla 20th-Aug-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
accurate tbh
interrobamf 20th-Aug-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
such grace
phoe21 20th-Aug-2012 03:31 am (UTC)
lol irl
honey_child 20th-Aug-2012 03:58 am (UTC)
ROFL I love the attention to detail on this.
momentsplinter 21st-Aug-2012 01:28 pm (UTC)
lol irl
oxbowlake 20th-Aug-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
"middle stage of an animorphs cover" omgggg
chiihiro 20th-Aug-2012 03:36 am (UTC)
"Old world handsome"? That's a new one.
celtic_thistle 20th-Aug-2012 04:12 am (UTC)
Mouth like a melting rubber band tbqh
makahakat 20th-Aug-2012 04:21 am (UTC)
renaissance baby omg
cherisheddesire 20th-Aug-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
posh bitch
black_swan87 20th-Aug-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
omg enough with the cumberbatch posts
piratesswoop 20th-Aug-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
this is what you get for stanning him sis
soavantgarde 20th-Aug-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
tl;dr, just here for the comments tbh

queen_norleans 20th-Aug-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
Who is this toolbox and why do I keep seeing him on ONTD?
365reasonswhy 20th-Aug-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
He should play Charles II.
jeveuxmacaron 20th-Aug-2012 04:41 am (UTC)
lol he looks nothing like him

insult to the merry monarch tbh
beoweasel 20th-Aug-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
Could be referencing Charles the II of Spain.



I dunno, I could kind of see it? Though being told you look vaguely like a hilariously inbred Spanish King wouldn't be taken as a compliment.
365reasonswhy 20th-Aug-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
Like the person below me said, I was attempting to shade Cumberbatch with the inbred reference. Oop @ you and me lol. I should have been clearer.
lordfoldemort 20th-Aug-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
ew @ his awful hair in that picture. that's one of his main problems. cause i get that you can't really help your face or anything but his hair is just always gross looking.
bluepassiflora 20th-Aug-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
He is in character in that photo.
lordfoldemort 20th-Aug-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
o ok well i can forgive him for that then, another thing he can't help. it's all pretty tragic really.
halfdressedliar 20th-Aug-2012 03:31 am (UTC)
I want to say that it looked much better in action for Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. I think the picture makes it more of a dingy brown than the ginger that it was.
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