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7:50 pm - 07/30/2012

Jeff Davis comments about race and racism on Teen Wolf

A Message About Race and Racism in Teen Wolf
I have seen a number of posts regarding race and racism in Teen Wolf that reference a quote I made in an interview about my efforts in trying to build a world in the show that is somewhat idealized. The critiques are all fair and insightful. I do think it may interest some of my more vocal critics to know the difficulties of approaching these kinds of subjects in television.

First off, the lack of story development for Boyd’s character. I have said numerous times in interviews that the new supporting characters are there to “support” the main characters. I have 41 minutes a week in which to tell a story. It’s not easy to service every character equally!

Second, our show has budget constraints that severely limit how many guest actors we can have. For example, I would have preferred to have Michael Hogan show up in every episode of the new season. Unfortunately, we could only afford him in a certain number. With the three new wolves, Sinqua, Gage and Daniel, we had to decide how best to use them in twelve episodes. When we make contracts for actors it’s usually a minimum guarantee of 6 out of 12 episodes.

Now, here is a sample email during the production of the show I received about Sinqua Walls who plays Boyd:
“So Sinqua is testing for a pilot on Tuesday. Tracy (his manager) has asked if we can get him on the latest flight possible back to LA on Monday night. She doesn’t want him traveling the same day as the test. Would this work for production? He still isn’t closed for the next episodes and they have been holding b/c of this possible testing. This is rather time sensitive since I believe he was scheduled to fly out today. So please get back to me ASAP.”

What this means is that while he was guaranteed several episodes in our show, Sinqua made it very far along in the casting process for a pilot. Since Sinqua is not a regular cast member, he is often out auditioning for numerous other roles. And as he had the possibility of getting another job, his management was hesitant at committing to any more episodes with us. While I was writing the last batch of episodes, I had no idea if he would even be available to me. That makes it very difficult to invest in a character if I’ve got be able to craft a script so that he can be easily written out in case the actor gets another job.

When we send out breakdowns for cast it always says “All ethnicities.” I’m quite proud of the fact that our lead actor is Latino. But I have also always said I will not make Teen Wolf an “issues” show. I think a series like Glee or even the humor of Modern Family are far more equipped to handle those subjects. I also worry that as a white male who grew up in a pretty ordinary middle class suburb I may not have the insight to be particularly adept at tackling issues of race head on. While there is no way I can write without socialization and my own personal bias both informing and affecting my work, I believe my first job is to entertain. That’s what I love about writing. Entertaining people. If I skirt the issues of race and sexual politics, the reason is most likely that I don’t feel like I’m going to be very good at tackling those issues within a show about teenage werewolves. I don’t really know how to write those stories. But I think I do know how to scare people and how to make them laugh. There are far better writers out there like Aaron Sorkin, Shonda Rhimes, David E. Kelley, far more equipped to tackle those subjects. I’m here first and foremost to entertain. All else comes under the banner of “best effort.”

I love the passion all of the fans bring to the show and I’m glad it creates far more of a discourse than I ever expected. I’m pretty sure most of my response here comes out of my own insecure thinking: “Are they calling me racist? I’m not racist! Wait… am I?” But maybe some of this information will provide a different insight into the why’s and how’s of the world of television and if you don’t necessarily forgive our flaws, you might at least understand them a little better.



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*he posted it on that tumblr but then tweeted: "Well, Tumblr, I was even gonna start putting pictures up. But you scared me away :( Back to just Twitter. Please keep it positive!"
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smolderhotter 30th-Jul-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
I'm glad he's honest and not like Julie Plec tbh.

Excited for this ep idgaf

Edited at 2012-07-31 12:03 am (UTC)
wickedwatch 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
Ugh Julie Plec. Seriously.
love_keiko 31st-Jul-2012 12:22 am (UTC)
i'm actually really glad he at least TRIED to explain himself. even if it was a weak ass excuse.

julie plec is just fuckin RUDE.
smolderhotter 31st-Jul-2012 12:26 am (UTC)
and I am sure we'll see more of Boyd and the vet and Maya from PLL in the next season since there are 24 episodes and he can develop them properly :)
twowaymirrrors 31st-Jul-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
Julie Plec is the worst
bitchy_vegan 31st-Jul-2012 12:27 am (UTC)
I've just started watching Vampire Diaries (that's what you're referring to, right?), and I've been put off by some of the racial issues or oversight of them...but I'm only halfway through season two.

Can anyone tell me what her response/attitude has been about this has been, without getting spoilery?
pistol_eyes 31st-Jul-2012 12:36 am (UTC)
fuck plec
iluvdykes 31st-Jul-2012 12:39 am (UTC)
Oh God, yes, that woman. I seriously was afraid that his response was going to turning into her's or that asshole who played the aunt's boyfriend.
nicenicegirl 31st-Jul-2012 01:00 am (UTC)
mte but then again almost anyone is better than Julie Plec(altho Sera Gamble is just as bad tbh)
brucelynn 30th-Jul-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
I don't watch this show but that guy in the gif is really attractive
surferxchris 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
You should see him without a shirt.
brucelynn 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
show me the light bb
maebyfunke 31st-Jul-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
ia
astrofisica 30th-Jul-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
lol @ deleting his tumblr
helders 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
people critiqued him and it hurt his feelings ok
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
what is a 40 year old man doing on tumblr anyway
sparkysparky 31st-Jul-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
What has age got to do with it?
rogue 31st-Jul-2012 01:07 am (UTC)
nope, age doesn't matter sis. this is why i'm scared of turning 21 next month b/c suddenly i wont be allowed to like certain shit anymore. can i just be 21 and still watch disney movies and can i be 41 and still have a tumblr if i want to please thnx
redleigh86 31st-Jul-2012 01:41 am (UTC)
marketing his show. A lot of business entities in entertainment have tumblrs. It's just another way of interacting with the fanbase. It's not like a personal tumblr or something lol
ohmiya_sg 31st-Jul-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
same
klutzy_girl 31st-Jul-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
I like that he's honest.
helders 31st-Jul-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
Second, our show has budget constraints that severely limit how many guest actors we can have.

people love this excuse valid example
crispy1088 31st-Jul-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
ikr? That still doesn't explain why the characters of Erica and Issac have way more screen time and words than Boyd. It's not equal at all. lol Jeff Davis.
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
even their weird ass chem professor has more development than him
severalstories 31st-Jul-2012 12:13 am (UTC)
I will say, tho, that if it's a choice between Boyd having less screentime & also being his awesome basically-second-in-command self or Boyd having more screentime and being a rarely-questioning minion like Isaac & Erica, I'd go with the former every time.
acousticmuse 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
ikr I love Boyd way more than flop Erica
don't let me get started on Isaac
larastone 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
v interesting
duvets 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
Eh I get what he's saying, but it's not as if he made the effort just to write a regular character who just so happens to be a poc. It's the same cop-out time and time again. POC aren't just stereotypes...
black_phoenix 31st-Jul-2012 01:05 am (UTC)
The protagonist of the show is Mexican ...
duvets 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
@.@ ooh sorry I meant to post this as a new comment and not a reply
steph_monster 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
Hm.

I also worry that as a white male who grew up in a pretty ordinary middle class suburb I may not have the insight to be particularly adept at tackling issues of race head on.
helders 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
between this and "budget limits" he basically wrote the same letter or w/e as lena dunham
steph_monster 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
Pretty much.

It sucks b/c I like what Jeff's done with Teen Wolf, but this letter is no bueno.
odd_fish_stick 31st-Jul-2012 12:12 am (UTC)
lol he really did. i was just about to type that <3
sandstorm 31st-Jul-2012 12:14 am (UTC)
I look at neither show and that's exactly what I was thinking reading this.
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:17 am (UTC)
what did that bich say
brokenbeauty08 31st-Jul-2012 01:36 am (UTC)
LOL, he's no where near Lena Dunham's mess. He doesn't use as an excuse to not include minorities in his show.
one_hoopy_frood 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
HIRE SOME WRITERS OF COLOR.
love_keiko 31st-Jul-2012 12:07 am (UTC)
yeah i scratched my head at that.

what does boyd being black have to do with his lack of speaking lines?

oh wait...
cherisheddesire 31st-Jul-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
at least he acknowledges his privilege
nene718 31st-Jul-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
lol always that same damn excuse
hera_bearrra 31st-Jul-2012 01:36 am (UTC)
That's not a good excuse.

And you don't have to make a POC character be ALL ABOUT his race. Just write him as a person, first and foremost.
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
He seriously doesn't have any development at all though
smolderhotter 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
at least we know he's awesome at everything tbh but I think they're gonna develop him
love_keiko 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
and that's why his excuse doesn't sit well with me.

of the supporting characters, boyd is the ONLY ONE with barely any development. and he's a part of derek's PACK. yet somehow manages to be absent in nearly every scene involving the PACK.

nhf lame excuses, tbh. it's was a valid question and i'm glad he at least attempted an explanation.
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
Basically the only thing we know about him is that their parents own/work at the ice skating place
breaktheice89 31st-Jul-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
exactly. erica & isaac got pretty deep backstories for only being there to support the main six, yet we know nothing about boyd. i would still like to know his reasons for chosing to be a werewolf? his motivations aren't even explained other than wanting to be strong or whatever. i keep hoping that he's gonna be more fleshed out in the next season, but he's got a role on "once upon a time" now too, which could make him even more "unavailable" + i fear he'll be killed off by the end of the season.
steph_monster 31st-Jul-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
We know Erica had seizures.

We know Isaac's dad used to beat him.

Boyd worked at an ice rink.

One of these things is not like the other.
luckyluxk 31st-Jul-2012 01:06 am (UTC)
And who cares? He is not a main character. Why are you people trying to make it about the race?
titsnteeth 31st-Jul-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
His first mistake was taking it to tumblr, talk about the abyss looking back

Edited at 2012-07-31 12:04 am (UTC)
abortions 31st-Jul-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
i always wondered about that girl who was stiles and scott's friend in the pilot but was never seen again
redaodai 31st-Jul-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
Yeah, me, too.
larastone 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
gone into the abyss of lost and forgotten minority characters
ladyfly56 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
....i'm completely blanking on who you're talking about.
redaodai 31st-Jul-2012 12:07 am (UTC)
There was a black girl that approached them when Allison showed up at school in the pilot, I think.
abortions 31st-Jul-2012 12:08 am (UTC)
in the pilot she pointed out to scott and stiles that despite being new allison was already hanging out with lydia. i think she was the girl in s2e1 who made allison cry because she told her friend that allisons aunt was a psycho murderer.
judgmental 31st-Jul-2012 12:07 am (UTC)
wait who? I don't remember
thornoftheroses 31st-Jul-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
OMG, I just re-watched the pilot today and I forgot she even existed. :(
steph_monster 31st-Jul-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
Me too. They should bring her back
chasing_center 31st-Jul-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
Yeah that was so odd.
wincest_dean 31st-Jul-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
i cannot remember
wicky_wicky 31st-Jul-2012 12:29 am (UTC)
me too

i was so happy to see her show up and then she never came back :(
hrhobo 31st-Jul-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
yeah me too.
devourlove 31st-Jul-2012 01:31 am (UTC)
ikr? she was having a full on convo with stiles and had like two lines tops, but never got another name or another appearance
siabean 31st-Jul-2012 10:08 pm (UTC)
For a moment I was like oh shit, they're gonna have a black friend!

lolnope
jason350 31st-Jul-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
I LOVE JEFF DAVIS SO FUCKING MUCH! Not even that stupid bitch Julie Plec would ever do this for her fans! LOVE JEFF!
acousticmuse 31st-Jul-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
tbh this seems like a genuine honest statement and I respect that he's not backpedaling up a creek
belladonnastrap 31st-Jul-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
*blink*

I don't watch Teen Wolf but surely casting more people who aren't lily white doesn't automatically mean you have to talk about racial shit?

love_keiko 31st-Jul-2012 12:27 am (UTC)
he knows this. the lead actor is latino.

bless him, he tries, but this excuse is not working for me.

never did and never will.
hera_bearrra 31st-Jul-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
MTE. POC don't sit around talking about race all the time. They are people, just like white people are people.
anagram42 31st-Jul-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
I also worry that as a white male who grew up in a pretty ordinary middle class suburb I may not have the insight to be particularly adept at tackling issues of race head on.

I honestly hate when I hear this from writers. But this guy... like you can write the lives of werewolves, but a brown person is, "I don't know how to write them :("
...seriously?

Two options:
1) Just stick in a person of color where you would have any other character because we are not some fucking unwritable enigma
2) Maybe do some research if you feel uncomfortable about writing a person of color to broaden your mind

End of story, srsly jfc

superhetoric 31st-Jul-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
it's a really lazy cop-out that people use in order to seem ~sensitive
sparkysparky 31st-Jul-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
but that's what he did and people are calling him out on it. so idgi
surferxchris 31st-Jul-2012 12:08 am (UTC)
But he did option 1, did you read the whole thing?
bostongirl2003 but what he's saying31st-Jul-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
isn't "this is why I don't write people of color"-he's saying that is why he doesn't write storylines that revolve around the race issue.
crispy1088 31st-Jul-2012 12:13 am (UTC)
Seriously. Who says that a poc character HAS to tackle race issues anyway? Why can't he/she just be a werewolf like Scott? It's not that fucking complicated.
bagelsvswaffles 31st-Jul-2012 12:20 am (UTC)
I don't think that's what he was saying at all. It sounded like he was saying that as someone who's white, he doesn't think he's capable of writing issues that come from being non-white. He's not pulling a Lena Dunham and saying, "I don't know how to write black character so I'm not doing it."

And as he's said about homosexuality, he's not going to be writing Danny getting bullied. Danny is gay, that's just a small part of him. Just like Boyd is African-American and Scott is Hispanic. Things like sexuality and race are non-issues in the Teen Wolf universe.
emesieremonde 31st-Jul-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
stop making sense sis
wicky_wicky 31st-Jul-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
the problem is he combined two issues under one big race umbrella, not writing about race and not casting people of color. you don't have to write about race to cast a character as a minority. the race-issues excuse is easier to defend, but that still doesn't answer why boyd doesn't have a backstory or why tyler is the only minority in the cast
luckyluxk 31st-Jul-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
He did #1. Maybe the character was never meant to be as ~important~ as Erica or Isaac.
devourlove 31st-Jul-2012 01:36 am (UTC)
seriously! like a poc can play any role a non-poc can play. danny's a gay poc and they kind of offhandedly comment about him being gay. it doesn't have to be some full-blown story and that excuse totally doesn't cut it for me.
superhetoric 31st-Jul-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
unfortunate name...
larastone 31st-Jul-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
i hope ur not talking abt this poor innocent comm
that is BULLYING
superhetoric 31st-Jul-2012 12:37 am (UTC)
no i was talking about the fact that this dude has the same name as the president of the confederate states of america and he's getting accused of racism
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