ONTD

3:25 pm - 07/13/2012

Chris Brown, Usher: Too Pop to Stay On Top?


When Chris Brown claimed his second No. 1 debut on the Billboard 200 this week, he also logged an unexpected accomplishment. The singer/songwriter became the second R&B hitmaker in a month to bow at No. 1 with a comparably soft launch.

Brown's fifth studio album, "Fortune," sold 135,000 first-week copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. That sum is half of the 270,000 units that launched "F.A.M.E.," the artist's 2011 album, atop the Billboard 200 - and gave Brown his first No. 1 debut. Four weeks ago, RCA labelmate Usher came in at No. 1 with 128,000 for his latest, "Looking 4 Myself." That figure marked a significant 61% slide from the 329,000 first-week sales for his last full-length album, 2010's No. 1-debuting "Raymond v Raymond."

However, given the hit-churning stature of Usher and Brown and their highly anticipated sets -- two summer flagship releases under the newly restructured RCA Music Group -- their resulting opening sales frames raise a few questions. Are Usher and Brown, with their pop- and dance-leaning album tracks, alienating their core audiences? Are segmented singles targeting multiple formats fostering confusion instead of album sales? Or is this just another sign of the times in a singles-dominant, consolidating industry? While RCA executives couldn't be reached for comment, several executives from radio and retail did weigh in on the matter.


Derrick "DC" Corbett, director of urban operations for Clear Channel's New Orleans cluster of stations that includes R&B/hip-hop WQUE, suggests that the Usher and Brown albums may not provide enough material for their core R&B fans. Brown performed "Turn Up the Music" and "Don't Wake Me Up" at the recent BET Awards - two songs that aren't being played on R&B/hip-hop radio. Of the five songs released prior to "Fortune's" debut, only "Strip" became a hit, reaching No. 3 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. "Sweet Love" topped out at No. 27 while "Till I Die" rises 37-27 this week.

While Usher's "Climax" spent 11 weeks atop Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, it peaked at No. 36 after only three weeks on the Mainstream Top 40 chart. Conversely, his pop-focused "Scream" isn't being heard on R&B/hip-hop radio even as it reached the top 10 on Mainstream Top 40. Another album track, "Lemme See" with Rick Ross, rises 5-3 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs.

"There's nothing wrong with growing creatively or crossing over," Corbett says. "But you also have to superserve your audience. The same audience that built you is the one you have to stay consistent with. You can get away with a 'Yeah 3X' and a 'DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love,' but that can't be the crux of your album. You can't leave your core shaking their heads."

Indeed, last time out, Brown's "F.A.M.E." catapulted him back into the limelight - and a first-time Grammy Award - thanks to a solid foundation of R&B hits that included "Deuces," "Look at Me Now" and "B.S." Likewise, Usher's last album was propelled by such R&B-focused hits as "Papers" and "Hey Daddy (Daddy's Home)" before he dropped the full-throttle pop/dance track "OMG," a hit on both the Mainstream Top 40 and Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop airplay charts.

Acknowledging that first-week physical sales for both artists' new albums fell well below projections, an urban buyer for a major chain notes that the gap between releasing singles and the album's arrival may have played a harmful role. "Labels want that traction at radio. But sometimes it's too long in between or an album is pushed back, then labels miss the key time to release the album. But scanning 100,000 first-week nowadays is still good."

Dedry Jones, of Chicago's Music Experience store, says, "If you're releasing singles so far in advance of the album and people are buying all of those on iTunes, what's the reason to buy the albums?"

Others contend that first-week sales aside, Usher's and Brown's standing as key R&B format artists remains strong. "Both of these artists are part of my core rotation," Perry Broadcasting VP of radio programming Terry Monday says. "It's still early, and honestly nothing to be alarmed about. The industry is changing. Album sales overall aren't going to be the huge numbers they used to be."

Neke Howse, PD of WKYS Washington, D.C., agrees. "Between the economy and this changing industry, it's a sign of the times," she says. "But both of these artists will be fine, and their albums will do OK."

Source: http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/chris-brown-usher-too-pop-to-stay-on-top-1007574352.story?utm_source=most_recent#/column/the-juice/chris-brown-usher-too-pop-to-stay-on-top-1007574352.story?utm_source=most_recent


wigglybob 13th-Jul-2012 08:37 pm (UTC)
I wish Chris Brown would just go away....
jmonkey3152 13th-Jul-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
Probably not helping that Usher hasn't released a good album since Confessions, and Chris hasn't released a good album ever.
brucelynn 13th-Jul-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
Ohhhhhhh ok


My Way is my fav Usher album btw

CSB
jmonkey3152 13th-Jul-2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
That was such a flawless album.
solitune 13th-Jul-2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
8701 for me. U Don't Have to Call is the jammmm
brucelynn 13th-Jul-2012 08:45 pm (UTC)
YYYESSS IKR?
wigglybob 13th-Jul-2012 08:46 pm (UTC)
That's my jam.
lanthiere 13th-Jul-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
yesssss
in_styles 13th-Jul-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
8701 and Confessions are both so amazing. I know like every word to each song on those lol.
words_by_ash 14th-Jul-2012 01:54 pm (UTC)
still one of the best albums ever made
cigarettelover 13th-Jul-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
8701 for me
howlcosmiclove 13th-Jul-2012 08:48 pm (UTC)
Confessions and 8701 are my favs from him.
alpherg 13th-Jul-2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
8701 is where it's at, imo.
pistol_eyes 13th-Jul-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
I was hoping that Usher pulls a 4 out of his ass, but I don't think he gets it yet. His latest album wasn't bad tho. I can't wait for the dance trend to die and I also hope that dub step never catches on.

CB's Exclusive was his best album.
brucelynn 13th-Jul-2012 08:48 pm (UTC)
mte Exclusive was really good

" Nice " and " With U " are my jams
card91 13th-Jul-2012 08:48 pm (UTC)
I also hope that dub step never catches on.

It already has. But most of the time radio just plays songs that are watered down versions/dubstep influenced pop or Skrillex songs. I don't think well be hearing full on dubstep any time soon.

quiet_storm 13th-Jul-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
Exclusive was a great album, and I agree on the rest too tbh.
in_styles 13th-Jul-2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
His first album is my fave. I love Exclusive because it gave me "Take You Down", though...lol.

Edited at 2012-07-13 09:37 pm (UTC)
cigarettelover 13th-Jul-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
I stanned for Usher since I was a 13 and will continue to do so until the end of time tbh. I've had Scream and Climax on repeat for days.
friarsfire 13th-Jul-2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
Climax is literally flawless.
cigarettelover 13th-Jul-2012 08:58 pm (UTC)
I can't believe I'm still not tired of it with how much I've been listening to it.
lovedhurtlost 13th-Jul-2012 08:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I hate how pop they are, tbh.

Waiting for Ne-Yo to put out another Year of the Gentleman.
thrillisgone_89 13th-Jul-2012 08:57 pm (UTC)
he just released another pop single *rolls eyes*

i wish they would STOP
lovedhurtlost 13th-Jul-2012 09:14 pm (UTC)
Ugh, are you serious? I'm so over this pop shit. I want some real rnb.
quiet_storm 13th-Jul-2012 09:14 pm (UTC)
Neyo's albums up to YOTG were so good and then Libra Scale and it's all gone down hill.
lovedhurtlost 13th-Jul-2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah, idk wtf happened. smh
tlcspice 13th-Jul-2012 08:58 pm (UTC)
R&B Usher >>
kofo4 13th-Jul-2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
yeah Usher needs to do a full re-evaluation, it's just not working. I'm hoping he gets it together (though i liked this latest album better than the one before).
Chris Brown fans on the other hand need to stop defending those piss poor first week sales. He had "Dont wake me up" and "Turn up the music" yet he still sold lower than Jill Scott did a year before, 4 July nothing.
fashionbb 13th-Jul-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
The problem with Chris is...he never stepped away from the spotlight.

This kid literally puts out song after song after song, and is also on other people's songs. It's also contributed to his success. And yes, whether people want to like him or not, his music is fucking everywhere. And why is that? Because people like it!

I won't comment on him and his ways of responding to criticism. Clearly his intelligence isn't very high.
toaerythinness 14th-Jul-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
that was maybe the most reasonable comment I've ever read in a Chris Brown post on ONTD.
wristtattoos 13th-Jul-2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
usher is out of shape
and chris brown just sucks
fashionbb 13th-Jul-2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
But damn this pop shit SUCKS.

Just stop it.

CB's Exclusive was amazeballs. Everything after pretty much sucked. And Usher needs to find his way back to 8701.
lanthiere 13th-Jul-2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
I feel like Chris Brown has a new album every minute. All the album art is always ugly, too lol.

The pic in this post is one of the few where I've found him attractive... Oh well. Too bad he's got the IQ of an ankle bracelet. And is abusive.
in_styles 13th-Jul-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
I hate this pop takeover shit. Both of them used to have such flawfree r&b music, but I guess they're trying to stay ~mainstream.
crazyrenegade 13th-Jul-2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
Idk about Chris Brown, but Usher is so talented I think he can try different sounds and alway be able to do a Confessions 2.0. He's been in the game so long, he knows what works.
paarycia 13th-Jul-2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
Usher is definitely alienating me lol. I know what he is capable of so I feel like what he is doing right now is beneath him.
I still have hope that he will go back to his R&B roots though.
luckyluxk 13th-Jul-2012 10:06 pm (UTC)
Too poop, lbr. Their pop music sucks
liztaya 13th-Jul-2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
I loved Climax, but when I heard the rest of the album I wasn't impressed. And I never really liked Chris Brown's music so I can't comment on that.
bunny_lita 13th-Jul-2012 11:28 pm (UTC)
Usher's just trying to stay alive, and it backfired a bit. The biggest hits on his last album were Pop songs, so he just did it again, albeit to a lot less success. He'll probably do a re-release or rush out a new album if sales are still soft.

As for Chris Brown, the faster he fades away, the better.
comfortable_yet 14th-Jul-2012 12:40 am (UTC)
I need another Confessions out of Usher asap, I love Climax but come back Usher. Come back!
prophecypro 14th-Jul-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
Well too many R&B artists are too focused on electro pop. But I must say both of these guys did have some R&B joints on their albums. Its just the singles create the perception
bloolikejazz 14th-Jul-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
i read that as too poop and was like like oh hale no you ain't dissing USHA USHA USHA YEAAAH
gorlplz 15th-Jul-2012 05:33 am (UTC)
lord and savior of r&b frank ocean shall make them relevant again

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