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Is Chris Brown the victim of a double standard?

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chrisgold 5th-Jul-2012 08:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, he's definitely a victim of double standard but that doesn't mean people shouldn't continually remind him what a little shit he is for what he did. It just means Charlie Sheen should be getting the same treatment.
goodassjob 5th-Jul-2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
Coulda shoulda woulda. The fact of the matter is Charlie Sheen doesn't and won't therefore it's not fair.
tusiaczek87 5th-Jul-2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
i am all for hating people equally

people like c brown, m gibson, c sheen, marky mark shouldn't have place in entertainment industry
lightupmynight 5th-Jul-2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
This is my personal analysis of the Chris Brown situation.

Chris Brown clearly has anger issues. This is extremely evident with not only his two headlining outbursts (RIhanna and chair being thrown out of a 7438294 high rise window) but also from "insiders", witnesses, bystandards and others who have witnessed smaller anger blasts. After he went to trial and got his slap on the wrist community service it was like him and his team tried to completely shove everything under the rug and continue on as if nothing had happened. THIS is what I think the main problem is.

If he had made a public announcement that went something like "I am sorry. At this time I would like to take some time off and work on myself and hopefully one day re-build my public image for you all" and then DID SO I think we would all be much more accepting to this "come back" that he is having.

Nope. Instead he remains in-denial and a delusional bastard and get mad whenever anyone talks about it and then freaks out. The reason why people want to talk about it is because YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING.

While his actual acts were horrifying all alone, I really think the follow-up PR fail is what completely ruined his public image.

Doesn't hurt also that society and the law don't take domestic abuse as seriously as they should either.
goodassjob 5th-Jul-2012 10:16 pm (UTC)
That isn't true at all though. He has addressed and apologized for the Rihanna situation numerous times. He made a public apology, He had an interviews on ABC, an interview on MTV and one on BET. As well as numerous other radio interviews and magazine interviews addressing the situation. You all just choose to completely ignore them or complain about how they're not good enough. But I can recall at least six instances where he has apologized and spoken about that incident. And that's just off the top of my head.
kimberwyn 5th-Jul-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
Race obviously plays a part in this, as it ALWAYS is, but it's not the only factor though. I don't think most of the white men they're comparing him to are good examples in this situation.
unclecraig 5th-Jul-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
TBH I think a better example of racist double standards is how Kanye was vilified just as badly for interrupting Americas Aryan princess as CB was for beating the shit out of a black woman...jmo.

CBs career is actually doing pretty well right now despite his continued assholery SO while he definitely faces racism/prejudice I don't know why y'all are acting like he has it so much worse than Penn or Sheen (neither of whom cases are completely comparable).
_quietriot_ 5th-Jul-2012 09:12 pm (UTC)
This is true.
kwikimart 5th-Jul-2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
True
in_styles 5th-Jul-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
Yup.
pistol_eyes 6th-Jul-2012 12:36 am (UTC)
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_underwhelmed 5th-Jul-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
the one thing i can't place in the chris brown thing is how his success since the assault hasn't seemed to help him in terms of his public appeal? he's had a number of hit songs (dueces, look at me now, yeah etc), and when you look at other black, male celebrities who have been lambasted in the media/public opinion in recent years their success has been their redemption. ie kobe bryant (even lakers haters dont mention the fact he was charged with rape anymore, he won a couple more rings and it's barely even a footnote in his legacy), michael vick (there aren't a lot of great players in his position so he was in demand and has performed well...he also did a great job rehabbing his public image and i think people like that he went to jail), i'm confident people would be loving tiger woods again if he could win a damn thing and it seems like people are rooting for him big time, mike tyson came back big time after a rape conviction now he's making cameos and has a show on A&E, i don't think floyd mayweather's career will take a hit...maybe these are not good comparables because it's easy to tally up wins and losses for an athlete and harder to quantify for a musical artist but it's just something that makes me think that given how popular he has been i would expect more people to think of chris in a positive way.
smilofax 5th-Jul-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
IA it does have a lot to do with the fact he's a musician and music is more personal whereas a sporting win especially for a team is seen as a collective win if that makes any sense.
It's weird how he's managed to be more commercially successful yet critically he's hated more than ever cause his fans whilst hardcore seem to be relatively small.

Edited at 2012-07-05 08:39 pm (UTC)
_underwhelmed 5th-Jul-2012 08:35 pm (UTC)
i also think isiah washington is a good example of the double standard talked about here; his career has TANKED since the incident that occurred on set, which he was fired as a result of. meanwhile eminem throws around the same slur no problem at all and people don't give a shit. of course what's said on a rap song vs a hollywood set are different, and isiah said it to a person when eminem uses just in a general hateful, derogatory way but yes, a double standard most certainly exists.
smilofax 5th-Jul-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah Isiah Washington I don't think he'll ever be able to recover from that. Compare that to the racists remarks the Girls/2 Broke Girls/ Mad Men showrunners/writers have been making, there's no way they'd still be around if they were black.
in_styles 5th-Jul-2012 11:40 pm (UTC)
Isiah is an actor though. Chris already had a huge core fanbase before, and they're still there.
snortingcoke 5th-Jul-2012 08:36 pm (UTC)
if i know about someone beating another person, i hate them. end of story. not saying it isn't the same for everyone else, but i do think the fact we pretty much experienced the rihanna/chris thing in real time through leaked pictures, twitter, etc helps because we actually SEE it and are a part of that rather than just hearing about it after and not seeing the physical consequences of it.
snortingcoke 5th-Jul-2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
and it helps that he has remained the same entitled piece of shit and not shown any humility. i can't stand sean penn or charlie sheen but at least in the case of sean penn he had the sense to lay low and actually try to repair his image, while chris has just basically said i did my probation so i don't give a fuck!!
goodassjob 5th-Jul-2012 10:20 pm (UTC)
Lmao no he hasn't? He did everything that was assigned to him and is continuing on with his job and life as anyone would. Seems like you expected him to quit music and go sit alone in his room for years to please you and that's ridiculous.
blissful1153 5th-Jul-2012 08:58 pm (UTC)
I think some of it is race based, but that doesn't change the fact that Chris Brown is a douche bag. It also doesn't change the fact that Team Breezy is made up of a bunch of psychos. Black celebrities really can't get away with the things white celebrities do.
getbacknow 5th-Jul-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
well to call it a double standard you have to look at other black men and see if there's a pattern...Dr Dre assaulted a woman and joked about it in his songs and people have seemed to get over it. Mike Tyson abused women and now he's back in the mainstream. James Brown was abusive, in fact back in the 60s/70s people accused him of causing Tammi Terrell's brain tumor (not sure if that science holds up but he did beat her). The real reason CB is the "victim" here is because Rihanna is very very famous and we're in an age where news and photos (the ones of her face in particular obvs) travel fast. He was arrested and charged and people were able to make a very visceral connection to him and his actions. I think (hope) that going forward the same shame will be levied towards any other man by society.
motorwill 5th-Jul-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
I think people are more willing to look the other way when there is a lot of talent involved. All your examples - those men are waay above Chris Brown's league in their fields.
snappple 5th-Jul-2012 09:34 pm (UTC)
Mike is much worse than Brown though, I mean he raped a woman. And so did 2pac, yet they are so loved and adored by the media and millions of people while Chris Brown is stuck with those 'special' fangirls.
snappple 5th-Jul-2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
Part of the reason I believe hes loathed too is because people saw the product of his outbursts and abusive behavior e.g. the leaked riri picture, the broken glass window etc. Not to mention we're in an overexposed age where every stupidity is recorded and placed against you.
d00ditsemily 5th-Jul-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
I don't like any of these assholes mentioned so whatever. They all equally suck.
snappple 5th-Jul-2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
I find him repulsive, but its absurd how he gets crucified for being a woman beater yet all these white boys get away with it. Why are black men always labeled as abusive assholes and white boys are viewed as drunks and it was a mistake lets forgive him?

There is definitely a double standard here, and as you can see from the Grammys, white people with abusive behavior get overlooked and get all these excuses from the public such as he was drunk yada yada but a black man will get crucified like Jesus on a burning cross.
kwikimart 5th-Jul-2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
Yes he is.

People can tell themselves all they want that they view all people like him the same but the vast majority of people focus more on Chris because he's black.

He's a piece of shit no doubt but I've seen that people are pretty selective about how they choose to treat white men for committing the same crimes black men do.
in_styles 5th-Jul-2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
Obviously yes, but white people will continue to use this as an excuse to bash the black man, imo.
nicolesnitchie 5th-Jul-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
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brucelynn 5th-Jul-2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
some of the comments in this post are so funny
in_styles 5th-Jul-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
I don't expect much tbh. Some of these people don't even know what white privilege is. This is too hard for them to grasp mentally, imo. Ignorance is bliss.
denythesymptoms 5th-Jul-2012 10:03 pm (UTC)
People may react to Chris Brown more violently because he is black, true. However, I can't say I feel bad that for once, an abusive douche doesn't get much sympathy.

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