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11:15 pm - 07/03/2012

Andrew Lloyd Webber: 'Eurovision racism hurt UK acts'



Andrew Lloyd Webber has said that racism in Europe is a reason for the UK's poor performances in the Eurovision Song Contest.



The composer's Your Country Needs You TV show picked 2009 entrant and later-Sugababe Jade Ewen, who finished fifth in Russia with a song co-written by Lloyd Webber.

"I don't think there's any point beating around the bush," Lloyd Webber told Radio Times.

"Did you see the Eurovision Song Contest this year? Well, if you had seen it, you might have noticed one thing - I don't think there was one black face on the programme."

He continued: "At the press conference in Moscow, I was asked, 'Why have you brought a black artist?'

"I said, 'Because she is the most talented artist that we had and I think she's a major, major star'. I think we would have come second but there's a problem when you go further east."

Lloyd Webber added: "It doesn't mean that we would necessarily have won that year but we could have come second.

"If you're talking about Western Europe - Germany, fine; France, fine; Spain, fine; Greece, fine; Scandinavian countries, fine. But Ukraine? Not so good."

During the interview, Lloyd Webber also claimed that none of the acts on The Voice UK could sing in tune.

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imnotasquirrel 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
"If you're talking about Western Europe - Germany, fine; France, fine; Spain, fine; Greece, fine; Scandinavian countries, fine.

not really tho?
hocus_pocus 3rd-Jul-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
Lmfao ikr especially France and their hijab law
nalty7 3rd-Jul-2012 10:59 pm (UTC)
I don't quite get what he meant with this phrase.
imnotasquirrel 3rd-Jul-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
he's saying that western europe isn't all that racist.
liebestorys 3rd-Jul-2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
He's saying western europe is less racist.
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
IKR, France and Spain are some of the most racist countries in Europe.
300psychosis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
I hope he means in comparison to other countries ... the mentioned being the lesser of two evils, because all of the above are still racist as fuck so I really can't find another explanation.
saltireflower 3rd-Jul-2012 11:28 pm (UTC)
Idk about Greece tbh. Those neo-Nazis getting elected made me side eye some folk hard.
callme_morbid 4th-Jul-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
ikr. lol @ people thinking western europeans aren't racist.
spankmypirate 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
Europe is really racist, but the Eurovision is really just a bunch of countries voting for their neighbours and nothing more than that. It's always been the same.
fauxkaren 3rd-Jul-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
lol. Yep. But the acts generally bring the lulz and sometimes there is a good song. And I cannot help it. I love Eurovision sfm.
evridis 4th-Jul-2012 12:24 am (UTC)
tbh not all countries vote for their neighbours anymore...

/butthurth from the last contest
givemethepeasx 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
huh, last time i checked jade achieved the best results the uk has gotten in recent years.

i'll show you why the uk does shit, it's because they enter shit like this:

exhibit a:


exhibit b:



i could go on...
moob 3rd-Jul-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
how did you miss jemini and the ~nil point~ performance?

shame on you imo
givemethepeasx 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
lol i was going to keep going but i realised that i'd be here all day if i posted all of the shitty entries
shangman 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
Scooch was fantastic, hdu.

"Would you like some complimentary nuts sir?" is possibly the best line ever.
givemethepeasx 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
but yes, there does need to be more diverse representation
greatbutton 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
mte.
a_grumble_cakee 3rd-Jul-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
*cough*
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
NOOOOO STOOOP MY EARS CAN'T TAKE THIS
ritzyroxie 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
The UK is virulently racist, tho, right?
hocus_pocus 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
We have our problems and a lot of us are pretty racist, but compared to Italy, Spain and France? Lol
liebestorys 3rd-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
Honest question, but how do you measure that?
ritzyroxie 3rd-Jul-2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
I've never been to any of the countries, but for w/e reason I just assume that the UK is the worst oop
chasing_center 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
Wow I just realized Jade played Aggie Thackery in Out There. I used to love that show!
thedpmiss 3rd-Jul-2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
wut?

I had to scroll up and I am still in shock.
thewunderland 3rd-Jul-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
omg she did? I loved that show
bollyhood 3rd-Jul-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
Jade did pretty damn well! The issue is bloc voting. Its more politically motivated than racially imo. It makes me lol that the UK gets so butthurt over eurovison considering they don't even attempt to send decent acts.
givemethepeasx 3rd-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
ikr, how do they expect to win with those acts?
bollyhood 3rd-Jul-2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
MTE. I know the eurovison has a reputation for being cheesy europop but Loreen's song was fantastic, Nina Zilli's song was fantastic. They both put effort into their songs/performances. If the UK wants to regain some eurovison popularity then they need to start putting some damn effort into it!
thedpmiss 3rd-Jul-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
I thought the strategy was not to win, especially since the winning country will have to host it next.
thewunderland 3rd-Jul-2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
the bloc voting thing has been a problem for years, he's just overlooking that with his comments (though he's not necessarily wrong)
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
ikr?
we dont care about the competition until we do bad then we're all like "BBC NEEDS TO PULL OF THE EUROVISION,BLOC VOTING IS RUINING EVERYTHING!!" and then get all butt hurt because ~nobody likes us~
shangman 3rd-Jul-2012 10:59 pm (UTC)
TBH he seems a little butthurt that he didn't win. Jade's song came 5th which is very good considering how badly we usually do, and there were some pretty good songs this year. I think he went in the show going "I am FAMOUS and so we're gonna WIN".

However I do think Eurovision can be racist, hardly any of the acts are poc, they're mostly backup dancers. It would be good if we could have more poc acts perform and win/get lots of points. There is also the issue of a lot of Eastern European countries voting for their friends, but sometimes that seems a little conspiracy-theory-esque.
x_butterfly19_x 3rd-Jul-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
Europe is racist, like everywhere, but it could be a practical Utopia and we still would stand no chance at Eurovision.

Because we have no friends.

Edited at 2012-07-03 11:03 pm (UTC)
bollyhood 3rd-Jul-2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
My vision for the future - Our great nation goes it alone and we send the proclaimers and win 12 points from every country!
x_butterfly19_x 3rd-Jul-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
Fuck yes, I would be so here for that.

We could pull it out like Ireland
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
we should send 500 miles in every years.
we would so win it
fauxkaren 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
I think the UK needs to start taking family members of the judges from other countries hostage or something. Because the UK really has no one that then can rely on for votes.
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
loooooool no

it's because you always send shit songs lbr ;)

but tbf you don't really have many friends, altho some of the geopolitical blocks are eroding....
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
we could just split the UK up into our 4 countries so we can all vote for each other!!!!
megedeborch 3rd-Jul-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Honestly - that excuse always worked for Germany as well, because let's face it - we have no friends as well, but then Lena won, so that theory is out of the window imho.
nalty7 3rd-Jul-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
I loved this

eternal summer jam
x_butterfly19_x 3rd-Jul-2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
<3
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
absolute classic
nin_o_zara 3rd-Jul-2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but to be fair that was their World Cup anthem too.
nalty7 3rd-Jul-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
The song was released for Eurovision tho.And it got in top ten.
thedpmiss 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
very patriotic having that random USA flag in the background
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
CLASSIC
fauxkaren 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
This song definitely still has a spot in my Eurovision playlist.
hardparade89 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
I think he has a point to be fair, the amount of Racism I saw in reference Ukraine's performer, Gaitana this year stunned me quite frankly.

However it doesn't stop the fact the BBC just can't be bothered in actually sending decent songs to the competition. Jade was our best result in a while thanks to the juries, and Andrew being on stage, but the song was still shit tbh. I do think there was a case for Javine doing a lot worse than she should of in 2005. I think her song and idec, Blue's were the best songs the UK had taken to the contest in a while. I just want us to take it seriously for once. Get some decent songwriters involved. I thought we were on to something in 2008 but then Andy fucking Abrams won the UK selection.
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
the main problem before ALW came in was promotion and ALW admitted this.
Before him our acts would never promote their song to europe except on the week of the show.it was like we were so sure we would do well that we didnt need to do the work that other countries do every year.
but thats the way the UK rolls,we dont give a shit about eurovision and still except to do well.

also Javine's song was the best out of a bad bunch when she was picked.wasn't she up against Jordan?
hardparade89 3rd-Jul-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
Well I think Loreen proved this year if your song is good enough it can create a buzz of it's own. Because if you look at the amount of promotion Aggun of France did this year in comparison and see where she ended up was frankly woeful.

There needs to be a good mix of a good song, a decent performer and some actual promotion. Also less expectation of winning.

Well when you put it like that, yes, it was, but I still find it an actually decent pop song. It sounded current which is what can't be said about a lot of the entries we send. It was the only song that stood out that year. Hell of lot better than Daz Sampson which shockingly did a few places better.
nalty7 3rd-Jul-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
I think the main reason UK never gets votes is because Eurovision is not some UK chart.I loved Blue but the song was meh and I don't think any other of their songs (like One Love) would ever have a chance of winning.The audience of Eurovision wants something else.
biumbiumbambalo 4th-Jul-2012 11:51 am (UTC)
Well that does explain why Gaitana didn't do as well as I thought she would.
shining_lore 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
bollyhood 3rd-Jul-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
*Bows and cries*
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
isnt a eurovision entry without this tbh
nalty7 3rd-Jul-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Last good year in Eurovision.
evridis 4th-Jul-2012 12:29 am (UTC)
gurl no 2009>>>>>2007
nin_o_zara 3rd-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
We don't even TRY at Eurovision anymore, we couldn't afford to host it anyway!

I think the only reason we still send acts is so we can have parties and laugh at the acts/Graham's commentary. It's just something to cheer us up, and then give us something to grumble about after.
thewunderland 3rd-Jul-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
lmao, I don't even think anyone would truly want to host the Eurovision (except for the eastern-Europeans)
megedeborch 3rd-Jul-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
Europe is racist?? NO WAY. *CoughCough*

Although I'm not sure how performing in a different country would have helped, ebcause you still have the same people voting for your song.



saltireflower 3rd-Jul-2012 11:17 pm (UTC)
"At the press conference in Moscow, I was asked, 'Why have you brought a black artist?'

JFC.
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