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Andrew Lloyd Webber: 'Eurovision racism hurt UK acts'



Andrew Lloyd Webber has said that racism in Europe is a reason for the UK's poor performances in the Eurovision Song Contest.



The composer's Your Country Needs You TV show picked 2009 entrant and later-Sugababe Jade Ewen, who finished fifth in Russia with a song co-written by Lloyd Webber.

"I don't think there's any point beating around the bush," Lloyd Webber told Radio Times.

"Did you see the Eurovision Song Contest this year? Well, if you had seen it, you might have noticed one thing - I don't think there was one black face on the programme."

He continued: "At the press conference in Moscow, I was asked, 'Why have you brought a black artist?'

"I said, 'Because she is the most talented artist that we had and I think she's a major, major star'. I think we would have come second but there's a problem when you go further east."

Lloyd Webber added: "It doesn't mean that we would necessarily have won that year but we could have come second.

"If you're talking about Western Europe - Germany, fine; France, fine; Spain, fine; Greece, fine; Scandinavian countries, fine. But Ukraine? Not so good."

During the interview, Lloyd Webber also claimed that none of the acts on The Voice UK could sing in tune.

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itsglenncoco 3rd-Jul-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
I feel like I hate him but I can't remember why?
imkevinspacey 3rd-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
lol ia
x_butterfly19_x 3rd-Jul-2012 10:59 pm (UTC)
lol
kimberwyn 3rd-Jul-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
oh gosh
zness 3rd-Jul-2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
lol
imkevinspacey 3rd-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
He is a bit creepy sometimes but I don't think he's done anything terrible~ that we know of.
wildfawn 4th-Jul-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
his face
diamond_dust06 4th-Jul-2012 01:51 am (UTC)
Because he is an abomination to musical theater.
yolleh 5th-Jul-2012 10:14 pm (UTC)
I know his step daughter or whatever she is to him and she's mega stuck up.
Also he plans to shut down 5 different theatres during the Olympics.

Plus he gave us those horrible shows like Any Dream Will Do.
Menace to society tbh
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
he didn't lie
su20 4th-Jul-2012 01:45 am (UTC)
mte
helders 3rd-Jul-2012 10:38 pm (UTC)
lmao @ that last sentence.

o cool that jade ewen person was born on the same day as me, 3 years earlier

Edited at 2012-07-03 10:39 pm (UTC)
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:38 pm (UTC)
no the reason for our poor performances is that we send in shite songs/acts.


Edited at 2012-07-03 10:41 pm (UTC)
hocus_pocus 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
Yes but Jade was our ONE really good act
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
yeah thats she has the best position from a uk act in eurovison since 2002,the rest of the years we've been terrible.
she would have probably done better if she wasn't in that year(no one had any chance against Fairytale that year)
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
Jade was good tho, she got 5th place.

ALW is speaking about the general situation, which is rather tragic for POC
killetheth 3rd-Jul-2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
the UK does so badly in Eurovision because all the songs we use are so shit.
mmbien 3rd-Jul-2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
yeah europe is pretty racist. and i don't know why he's including france and spain in the 'ok' countries because lmao. no.
imnotasquirrel 3rd-Jul-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
lmao ikr

hocus_pocus 3rd-Jul-2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
lmfao m t e
liebestorys 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
I think it's because at least those will vote for black people, eastern countries just not at all.
ooh_mrdarcy 3rd-Jul-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
and Scandinavian countries lmao

I'm sorry, but Norway is like one of the most racist countries I've ever visited
mmbien 3rd-Jul-2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
really? :( i can only speak from experience/ friends' experience. especially of the netherlands holy shit.
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
lol no, Norway is nothing compared to continental Europea sorry
poehleroid 4th-Jul-2012 12:48 am (UTC)
the amount of "hilarious" black face that occurs amongst young norwegians is ridic
szeretni 4th-Jul-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
"Softly spoken Loreen, a 28-year-old of Moroccan-Berber descent, thanked her fans for their support."

Yeah, Sweden voted for Loreen because she's all blonde and blue-eyed. *insert sarcasm here*

Last year, Salem Al Fakir nearly won - you think all the racists voted for him too? ;)

2002 the group Afro-Dite won in Sweden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-dite

Not that I mean to say you're wrong in general but...how is it that you point out the Scandinavian countries as being racist?
delicious_pocky 3rd-Jul-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
because they are? he isn't saying there isn't racism in those countries, he is saying that a black personality isn't a novelty for the most part. in france, my wife & kids is the most popular sitcom and urban music is the most popular genre among young people etc.
snortingcoke 3rd-Jul-2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
i actually think that france is one of the most ethnically diverse countries in europe, iirc? there's obviously still going to be racism but it's definitely not as big a thing as some european countries.
agatharuncible 3rd-Jul-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
I don't think he's saying that those countries aren't racist, just that they're probably more ok with voting for a poc singer in a contest.
whataboutdasha 3rd-Jul-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
Eeh I'm pretty sure France would vote for black people as acts to entertain their asses.
_underwhelmed 4th-Jul-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
yeah am i understanding that he's saying greece is relatively not racist? bc i dont think i agree with that
djezonfly 4th-Jul-2012 12:20 am (UTC)
Because France sent an Asian artist this year and a black artist 2 years ago for instance.

Edited at 2012-07-04 12:21 am (UTC)
palmsread 4th-Jul-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
can someone shed some light on Ireland and Scotland? how are racial tensions over there?
elliecam 3rd-Jul-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
His song seriously sucked.
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
also didn't Jade come 5rd that year?the highest position we got in 10 years?
moob 3rd-Jul-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
did you read the post, I even bolded it:

"The composer's Your Country Needs You TV show picked 2009 entrant and later-Sugababe Jade Ewen, who finished fifth in Russia with a song co-written by Lloyd Webber."
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
what i was getting at was he says racism is the reason we don't do well?yet we send a mixed race girl in and she does the best out of all our entrants of the part 10 years?
bullshit.yes there's racism in europe and will most likely influence the voting but it's ntot he reason we do so fucking badly.
childish 3rd-Jul-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
Europe? Racist!?

But so much better than Murrrrrrrrika -- unless you are brown especially if that brown is from the Middle East
cricketgrl 3rd-Jul-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
I don't know if it's changed from 15 years ago but even the most progressive Amsterdam and Belgium were rather racist.

Murrika has it's problems but the racism here is miles better than Europe, Australia and Russia.
hocus_pocus 3rd-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
Lmfao Amsterdam (btw which is a city not a country) and the Netherlands all together have a Christmas holiday with blackface so no, it's not progressive.
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
Europe has very different race relations than America. It's pm impossible to compare the two.
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
Race relations are very different in Europe than they are in America.

As a European I would say general xenophobia is a bigger problem than racism. Prejudice against Romani people and muslims is rampant.
tiddlywinks103 3rd-Jul-2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
Damn, he said it.
greatbutton 3rd-Jul-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
But the UKs best score in recent years was from Jade Ewen who is mixed race, I think, so I really disagree.
biene 3rd-Jul-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
this.she done pretty well considering the entries that year(hello FAIRYTALE?)and the fact her song was an absolute bore
itskimbitches 3rd-Jul-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
i looked up this fairytale~ and it's so...idk cheesy and baby words. why do ppl like such basic lyrics? but after seeing this year's eurovision there is a certain style that enters and wins.
moob 3rd-Jul-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
did you read the post, I even bolded it:

"The composer's Your Country Needs You TV show picked 2009 entrant and later-Sugababe Jade Ewen, who finished fifth in Russia with a song co-written by Lloyd Webber."
evridis 3rd-Jul-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
i think he's talking about the contest in general, not jsut his entry
ebenista 3rd-Jul-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
The pope is catholic too, it's crazy news day ¯\(°_o)/¯
halfslytherin 3rd-Jul-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
lol irl
kari91 3rd-Jul-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
He's so right, especially about the Ukraine. The comments people made about Gaitana were disgusting, to say the very, very least.
liebestorys 3rd-Jul-2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
Racism exists but it's much bigger and important than poor UK that is being "robbed", when all they take are bad songs.
klmnumbers 3rd-Jul-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
yeah you put this point much better than I did. He makes an excellent point, but the fact that he's talking about a musical competition where he also happened to co-write the song and lost makes it seem super petty and that he's just using racism as an excuse?

It's weirdly undermining a very good point.
szeretni 4th-Jul-2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
I completely agree. Racism is one thing, the UK and Ireland almost always send crap.
This year was ridiculous...who the hell wants to hear HUmperdinck?!
And Jedward made me cry from laughing so hard.
a_grumble_cakee 3rd-Jul-2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
imo the big 5 are hurt by the fact people hear them for the first time in the finals.
zedmeister 4th-Jul-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
ikr, it's not exactly doing them a favour.
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