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9:52 pm - 06/20/2012

Karen -The bus monitor- H Klein To Appear on round of Talk Shows



An online fundraising effort to assist a Greece bus monitor verbally abused by students raised more than $60,000 in its first day.

The effort was set in motion by a video of 10 minutes of profane taunting endured on Monday by bus monitor Karen Klein.

Klein didn’t report the behavior and said she figured she had just ended the year on a bad note.

But one of the kids on the Greece Athena Middle School bus captured the incident on a cellphone camera. The video got pulled off of Facebook late Tuesday and was posted to You Tube. By early Wednesday, it had gone viral across the world.



In the video, Klein does her best to ignore the harassment.

“I was trying to just ignore them, hoping they would go away and it doesn’t work,” Klein said. “Trust me, they didn’t go away.”

The vile chorus included profanity, taunts, insults, jeers, physical ridicule and outright threats to Klein’s person and home.

“The kids weren’t always that bad,” she said Wednesday.

“The first we learned of the incident was by email Wednesday morning,” said Greece Central School District Assistant Superintendent Deborah Hoeft. Two similar videos of Klein being harassed were also unearthed.

District officials called in police and Klein and the bus driver.

An investigation was launched. Students were questioned by police.

“This behavior is inexcusable and a clear violation of our code of conduct,” said Hoeft. Any punishment meted out by the district would be enacted in the new school year, she said.

Greece police Capt. Steve Chatterton said that if criminal charges were filed, it would likely be in Family Court because the youths involved are juveniles. Chatterton said that some potentially serious charges would require that Klein had felt threatened. Klein said Wednesday that she did not feel threatened by the students.

A news conference is planned for Thursday to provide updates on the status of the investigations.

Klein, a grandmother of eight who lives in Greece, herself learned of the video through Facebook. She didn’t watch it until she was summoned to the bus garage.
“It was like ‘wow,’ ” she said. “I can’t believe it happened … It was just plain mean. Nobody should have to put up with that.”

She said she didn’t hear all of the taunting while it was happening because she is hearing impaired.

Mike Maynard, business agent with Teamsters Local 118, the union that represents Klein and more than 700 other support staff in the Greece schools, said he was “just as outraged as everybody else” by the video. He said it was not uncommon for kids to be “a little rambunctious” at the end of the year, but that he’d never heard of any behavior as outrageous as what was captured on the video.

“I feel terrible for Karen and wish it never happened to anyone,” he said. “No employee here should ever have to tolerate anything like that from the children.”

As the video circulates around the world — it drew more than 130,000 hits by Wednesday evening — multitudes of people have sent Klein Facebook friend requests and notes expressing sympathy and support. She also received several bouquets of flowers from strangers who were moved by the images.

An online effort on the international crowd funding site Indiegogo.com to raise money to send her on a nice vacation raised $66,000 by 9:15 p.m. Wednesday.

The site was set up by Max Sidorov, a 25-year-old Toronto nutritionist who found the video Wednesday morning on the social news website Reddit.

“I saw the video and really felt for Karen,” he said. “I have some experience with bullying from when I was young and what they were doing to her was just heartbreaking. The best thing I could think to do was start a fundraiser to send her on a vacation.”

The outpouring of support has far exceeded his expectations.

“It is just huge,” he said. “I thought it would get a few thousand dollars, maybe. But maybe she could retire on this.”

Klein worked as a Greece bus driver for 20 years and as a bus monitor for the past three. She said she’s been “kind of numb” through all the attention, and that after watching the video she thought “it must have been a miracle that I didn’t lose my temper” with the kids.

Her daughter, Michelle Hawkins of Greece, said she was appalled at how the youngsters treated her mother.

“It’s just not right,” she said.

She said her mother was scheduled to be interviewed Wednesday evening by Good Morning America and the Today show. She was scheduled to appear Thursday with Anderson Cooper on CNN and on Fox & Friends.

As for the vacation fund, Hawkins said her mother was considering a Disney cruise for the whole family. She said the response to the situation shows that being nicer is the way to go.

Julia VanOrman, president of the Greece school board, she’s been inundated with outraged messages and emails from people infuriated by the video.

She hopes the incident can serve as a teachable moment for a wider discussion on how to treat other people, children and adults alike.

“This (incivility) is a problem not just in this district but of the nation, and what are we actually doing about it,” she said. “… What are we all going to do to make sure this doesn’t happen on another bus in another school district tomorrow?”

Klein’s neighbor Caroline Putman said she heard about the video Wednesday morning, watched it and found it “disgusting.”

She’s “a very nice lady and doesn’t deserve that,” Putman said. “She’s been a good neighbor.”

She said the involved students “should never be allowed to ride the bus again.”

Klein said she didn’t want the students to face criminal charges, but would like to see them “grounded all summer, or maybe all year.”

And, Klein said, she would love an apology.


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ch33rylips 21st-Jun-2012 02:51 am (UTC)
Children are such fucking assholes, this is why I refuse to have any.
loganx2 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
I dont have kids but I have 2 nieces and I swear if either of them participated in something like this I would go off on them.
ultra_obscene84 21st-Jun-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
IA.
lidahbidah 21st-Jun-2012 03:40 am (UTC)
I agree.
cricketgrl 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
I'm really fed up with this bullshit. This is the result of kids not being spanked. If more kids were disciplined correctly by their parents this kind of shit wouldn't happen.

I and many other in my generation wouldn't dare to talk to an adult that way.
winter_lace 21st-Jun-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
I think the problem is less the children and more the fact that parents can't parent anymore. No one has any respect. It's disgusting.
mikachanyo 21st-Jun-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
mte.
lovemail321 21st-Jun-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
They're little alcoholics.
swissbeauty23 21st-Jun-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
yeah but you'd raise them well and they'd turn out fine
sixdemonhag 21st-Jun-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
I raised my kids to have compassion and be decent people but you seriously have to be on it. You can't let shitty behavior slide most of the time and just remind them once in a while to act decent. And it really isn't that much work, it just takes paying attention and giving a shit.
nobodynomore 21st-Jun-2012 07:08 am (UTC)
I would be so embarrassed if I EVER knew my child acted like that and they would be disciplined accordingly. Hopefully I am doing an okay job raising her to never do that though, holy shit.
chikntetrazzini 21st-Jun-2012 11:41 am (UTC)
80% of the people on ONTD are worse when given an opportunity.
gorlplz 21st-Jun-2012 02:52 am (UTC)
ugh that video was so fucking disgusting
loverelapse 21st-Jun-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
i couldn't. i just felt a mixture of rage and sadness and disbelief, like wtf is wrong with kids?
gorlplz 21st-Jun-2012 03:36 am (UTC)
bad parenting, media, peer pressure, etc

idk
escapetheroom 21st-Jun-2012 01:15 pm (UTC)
Middle schoolers are the WORST. I remember bus rides back then, and one of my classmates was taunted nearly every day. It's like they have no conscience? I'm still scared of middle schoolers, and i'm 21.
jeterluva 21st-Jun-2012 06:32 am (UTC)
I only watched 2 minutes. I can't handle that shit.
loganx2 21st-Jun-2012 02:52 am (UTC)
This video made me fucking sick. I hope all these fucking kids get their names released so we can all shame the fuck out of them and their parents.
starry_niights 21st-Jun-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
wellllllllllll the asian looking kid...is visible. reddit will probs identify some of them. :(
kamikashi 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
i forget if it was 4chan or reddit, but facebooks of some kids were revealed but then later taken off the site cuz it was against policy.
loganx2 21st-Jun-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
I heard 4chan posted a lot of their names but then the post was removed.
bellwetherr 21st-Jun-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
reddit has that information but all threads have been taken down.
candycheeks 21st-Jun-2012 02:55 am (UTC)
the names are written in the description box of the video
sandstorm 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
A lot of the info is circulating on Tumblr...thanks 4Chan!
makemeyoung 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
Saw this on a source video:

Students Involved:
Luis Recio
Wesley Helm
Brandon Teng
Joshua Slesak
gorlplz 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
their info is already out there
goo82 21st-Jun-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
4chan had a bunch of their names and facebooks.
cricketgrl 21st-Jun-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
Really you think that matters to these kids?

The only thing that these kids need is a nice ass whoopin'. Taking the Xbox away and no Computer time doesn't work with these kids and is a stupid discipline tactic in the first place.

My eldest niece was coddled this way and she turned out EXACTLY like these kids and is a horrific person. My brother and sister in law used time outs and all the shit therapist recommend. It turned her into a monster.

When she's pissed off she talks to my sister in law and brother in such a foul way.
discotherapyx 21st-Jun-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
harassing these kids and their families is not the solution to this... what these kids did was disgusting but i think we need to take a better look at our society that creates this culture, you know?

/my two cents
simply_inn0cent 21st-Jun-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
Gurl reddit and 4chan released their names like hours after the post hit reddit. It was INSANE.
felixdemarco 21st-Jun-2012 02:52 am (UTC)
I couldn't make it past the first minute. Disgusted. If you guys can, donate towards the fund for this lady.
quotequeen20 21st-Jun-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
I couldn't even press play because I knew it would either 1. It would anger me enough to curse humanity and start punching walls or 2. Make me cry at this poor woman who doesn't deserve to be abused.
It's disgusting. Seriously.
mistycreed 21st-Jun-2012 04:27 am (UTC)
Same here. I knew what would be on that video. I can't tell you all the times my mom and sister have cried at home because of asshole students. Middle school was literally the worst, teaching wise, for my mom and sister. Both teach elementary now - you still get bad kids but middle schoolers are an entirely different layer of hell.
zeonchar 21st-Jun-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
Same here.
holdmedownxx 21st-Jun-2012 04:45 am (UTC)
I made it to 3 minutes. She said "oh boy. I'm glad this year is over" and that made me lose it even more.

Edited at 2012-06-21 04:46 am (UTC)
bornstalker 21st-Jun-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
I couldn't either; too many real life associations.
kids are cruel little fuckers.
I was bullied hardcore (and the worst of it was on the bus) all throughout middle and high school.
and it's terrible because I doubt any will feel any real remorse. I've got anxiety and nervous disorders now because of it and it will never come back to haunt them.
if I had more than $2.50 in my bank account, I'd donate to her in a heartbeat.
starry_niights 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
these kids need to be slapped. that little old lady looks like a sweetheart! :(
false_hate 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
I donated $10 to her vacation fund earlier this evening, totally worth skimping on some coffee this week.
britneyrocks26 21st-Jun-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
Same! :)
greenscarrf 21st-Jun-2012 02:55 am (UTC)
me too!
stellar_kar 21st-Jun-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Nice! I think it's up to 80 grand!
false_hate 21st-Jun-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
Whoa, it says $84,287 right now :')
pikapika217 21st-Jun-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
give me a link - I have $20 for her with my next paycheck
shelostcontro1 21st-Jun-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
<3
logicalfall 21st-Jun-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
I found a $10 bill at work today, and knew immediately that I wanted to pay it forward somehow. This seems like a worthy enough way to do that :)
defaultit 21st-Jun-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
I did too!
freeze_i_say 21st-Jun-2012 05:29 am (UTC)
this awesome attitude <3
marsdeafaden 21st-Jun-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
I plan to donate $10-20 when I get some money next week. :)

Edit: It's over $100,000 now!

Edited at 2012-06-21 06:05 am (UTC)
sleepofplagues 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
Kids can be really cruel. Actually of all the cruelty I have experienced, much of it was during my childhood at the hands of other children. If I do have kids, I'll beat the breaks off of them if I catch them fooling off at the mouth at other kids.

and here go hell come if they experience it themselves. BECAUSE I WILL BE THE FOOL RAISING HELL AT THEY SCHOOL.
anus 21st-Jun-2012 02:58 am (UTC)
Oh god if I found out my kid was bullying anyone I would make their life fucking hell. I would hope a parent/teacher would let me know what my kid was doing so I could be sure they learned their damn lesson. That shit is not acceptable.
mirandagirll 21st-Jun-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
ngl I'm probably gonna be the same way lol
logicalfall 21st-Jun-2012 03:12 am (UTC)
Ugh, same. I went through too much shit as a child. If I found out my kid was a bully, I'd beat their ass raw-and I'm usually the type who doesn't believe in hitting kids.
joliebelle 21st-Jun-2012 03:14 am (UTC)
Can I just tell you how much I love the expression "beat the breaks off you" My sister tells my nephews that all the time and it never fails to make me lol
muzik_love 21st-Jun-2012 03:18 am (UTC)
man...

id take away everything that my kid loved
and then make them volunteer for the less fortunate everyday until they graduated from high school. maybe then they'd learn some compassion.
trikc 21st-Jun-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
this was the worst part:

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yousaidlog 21st-Jun-2012 04:22 am (UTC)
oh my god : (((((((((

aleisha_xo 21st-Jun-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
jfc thats horrible :/
saltireflower 21st-Jun-2012 05:13 am (UTC)
Jesus Christ
unbridledglee 21st-Jun-2012 05:34 am (UTC)
I feel like crying right now
hormoaning 21st-Jun-2012 07:48 am (UTC)
oh my fucking god
mistycreed 21st-Jun-2012 04:31 am (UTC)
If my kids bullied children or disrespected their teacher and/or other adults, I wouldn't even think twice about spanking them. I was bullied so bad in elementary and middle school and as I stated above, my mom and sister are teachers. I've seen them cry too much over asshole kids.

If my hypothetical kids ever did that I would feel like a failure as a parent and a person. And it would be over my dead body that they'd ever treat someone that horribly.
tribulation 21st-Jun-2012 04:44 am (UTC)
This is me.
mcwicca 21st-Jun-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
God help my hypothetical children if I find out they bullied anyone. I would systematically remove all the joy from their lives.
celtic_thistle 22nd-Jun-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Same here--the only overt cruelty I've experienced is as a kid in elementary/middle school. I remember standing at the top of two flights of stairs at my middle school and wondering, in fury, if I would get the school in enough trouble to finally deal with the bullies if I threw myself down the stairs.
anna_bea2 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the video will make me cry, so I'm not going to watch it (lol @ me)

ugh, some kids are such assholes and it's even worse when there is a group mentality.
loganx2 21st-Jun-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
dont watch it. It is just disgusting.
kamikashi 21st-Jun-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
i watched less than a minute and i cried lol. reading some articles just made me cry. and i hardly ever cry. the situation just makes me sad.
saintmorse 21st-Jun-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Same. I read another article with quotes, and I can't handle that.
365reasonswhy 21st-Jun-2012 03:02 am (UTC)
I turned it off one minute in. No way could I sit there and listen to ten minutes of that bullshit. It made me rage and want to cry at the same time.
marshallgregson 21st-Jun-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
i watched it when i woke up this afternoon and started crying. i have been thinking about it all day and it just bothers me so much that ANYBODY would do this. and when she takes off her sunglasses to show them that it is making her cry, they just keep taunting! what the fuck is wrong with these kids?
loverelapse 21st-Jun-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
right? i'm trying to pull myself together, but no one fucking deserves that and when she starts crying. ugh this video won't leave me for a long time.
odetobilliejoe 21st-Jun-2012 03:18 am (UTC)
I'm in the same boat. Just looking at the stills is killing me. Poor lady. I'd feel like such a failure as a parent if my kids engaged in that behavior. Hell, if they didn't try to STOP that behavior in some way I'd be pretty pissed. Sigh.
jmfunnyface 21st-Jun-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
Don't watch it. I'm not a particularly emotional person,but it made me cry. It's brutal.
loverelapse 21st-Jun-2012 03:40 am (UTC)
i watched it and i feel like crying lol. then backhanding each kid.
killmeneko 21st-Jun-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
same here =/
myblackass 21st-Jun-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
It had me tearing up. I couldn't make it all the way through.
hershelwalker 21st-Jun-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
same here. I would bawl like a damn baby.
livesamantha 21st-Jun-2012 05:10 am (UTC)
I'm in the early days of PMS, ain't no fucking way I'm watching it. I would be on the phone calling every one of those kid's parents.
electrozombie 21st-Jun-2012 11:46 am (UTC)
same, i cant watch it
ukesenshi 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
o
britneyrocks26 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
Man I wouldn't have held on like she did in the video.

Just think about how many times she has had to endure this. I'm so disgusted, I can't even.
minderbinder 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
Middle school children are honestly some of the worst people. Like, deep down they are assholes.

And omg at the fact that they haven't apologized yet.
__nocturna 21st-Jun-2012 03:16 am (UTC)
iawtc middle school is the worst
liliana_ 21st-Jun-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
One of my co-worker's kids is being bullied right now. He's in 7th grade, and it's like, all you can say is that this is probably the worst it'll ever be. I think middle school is just the worst. By high school at least MOST kids are too self-absorbed in their own drama to still be bullying.
jmfunnyface 21st-Jun-2012 03:29 am (UTC)
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with their parents. If I ever tried anything like that my mom would have killed me. She'd make me apologize for a week straight after throwing away every possession I owned as retribution for being such an ass.
celtic_thistle 22nd-Jun-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
Same. My mom would've had my guts for garters if she knew I'd spoken to someone like that.
milly 21st-Jun-2012 03:51 am (UTC)
It's like middle school children have the mentality of sociopaths, really. All so self-obsessed, with no real concept of consequences and a very basic understanding of morality. Little children who think they're grown up badasses.

Sad that some people never grow out of that phase.
xgirldc 21st-Jun-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
my mom taught high school for years, then moved down to middle school. she said middle school was impossible and terrible because the kids are trying to figure out who they are and one day will be amazing and the next would be total assholes. they were using that time to figure out who they were. kids in high school already pretty much had that figured out so she wasted less time on the kids who weren't trying and more on the kids who were there to learn.
royan_rawss 21st-Jun-2012 04:19 am (UTC)
Yes, I agree. Middle school aged children are the most vile.
piratesswoop 21st-Jun-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
mte i am an education major and i am focusing on early childhood and i've thought about getting a grad degree so i can teach high school later in life, but i will NEVER teach middle school. hormonal preteens are the fucking WORST
mistycreed 21st-Jun-2012 04:34 am (UTC)
Teaching children in general can be the worst, but middle schoolers are a level of hell that most people can't imagine. Number one reason I will never become a teacher.
tribulation 21st-Jun-2012 04:46 am (UTC)
Yes, middle school was shit for me (especially 7th grade).
aleisha_xo 21st-Jun-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
yup. I was never a bully but I was a fucking asshole in middle school. The other day me and my friend were actually just talking about how much we needed our asses beat. middle schoolers just don't gaf
phreshprince 21st-Jun-2012 05:27 am (UTC)
It brought be back to when I was bullied in middle school.
I was bullied on the bus. 1 started because I was listening to Hilary Duff and a guy called me a faggot everyday when he heard I liked Hilary Duff. He would go so far to where he would say "raise your hand if you think _____ is gay" and the whole bus would raise their hands. I was mortified. I'm straight btw and obv. there's nothing wrong with being gay. Just people being stupid.
inartistic 21st-Jun-2012 05:39 am (UTC)
Yeah!

Literally every child in middle school is an asshole. I was bullied constantly, but at the same time, I also bullied constantly. I think it's just a result of being old enough to learn new ways to be mean (and curse, etc.), but too young to have developed any sense of compassion/empathy.
londonaster 21st-Jun-2012 07:30 am (UTC)
Yeah middle school kids are absolutely fucking insane. I was only bullied a little compared to some other kids but looking back it was like surviving a war.
mari_lyn00 21st-Jun-2012 09:08 am (UTC)
my best school year memories are from middle school, and as my niece is starting it soon i'm sure to tell her to enjoy it and have fun, but also to be aware that it is the age of assholes.
odella 21st-Jun-2012 01:15 pm (UTC)
Middle school is the absolute worst
sugarspice101 21st-Jun-2012 02:06 pm (UTC)
Yes they are. I work at universal and gradventure(night where 8th graders take over the park) is much worse than Gradbash(seniors). They're little shits who think they have something to prove with how cool they are.
invisible_cunt 21st-Jun-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
and middle school is what i will end up teaching lol
celtic_thistle 22nd-Jun-2012 07:57 pm (UTC)
Middle school was fucking hellish for me.
katesamaloo 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
I live right near Greece (it's right outside Rochester) and it's all anyone here is talking about. This is so disgusting. Middle Schoolers (especially these ones) are the worst. I hope they get a harsh punishment.

Edited at 2012-06-21 02:54 am (UTC)
fionaapple 21st-Jun-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, I just graduated from RIT and that's what all my friends are talking about on my newsfeed. So sad and disgusting.
lana_poo 21st-Jun-2012 04:01 am (UTC)
Hello, fellow RIT alumna! (2009 here). And yes, purely disgusting. :/
heyx_lyla 21st-Jun-2012 03:39 am (UTC)
I live 40 minutes away and go to Fisher and it's all I'm hearing about as well. I'm so glad it's getting so much attention so now the Greece school district pretty much has to do something about it.
parisdiorchanel 21st-Jun-2012 03:42 am (UTC)
Your icon makes me happy.
discotherapyx 21st-Jun-2012 04:02 am (UTC)
i'm from one of the rochester suburbs too, and it's all over my facebook feed. this shouldn't happen anywhere, but it's really disappointing to see it from your hometown :(
godrevypoint 22nd-Jun-2012 12:43 am (UTC)
i'm from buffalo and couldn't believe this happened in roc...i thought for sure it was some really innercity school or something
candycheeks 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
omfg they threatened to cut her!

Edited at 2012-06-21 03:06 am (UTC)
animalyears 21st-Jun-2012 02:53 am (UTC)
and this is a good example of why i hate kids
greenscarrf 21st-Jun-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
uggghhhh that vid makes me so fucking unfomfortable
powerbottom 21st-Jun-2012 02:54 am (UTC)
It stressed me the fuck out just watching it.
greenscarrf 21st-Jun-2012 02:56 am (UTC)
me too, I felt like I was going to explode
ectypes 21st-Jun-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
THIS
lafhaha 21st-Jun-2012 06:04 am (UTC)
I couldn't watch more than a minute. :(
distant_lines 21st-Jun-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
I'm not even watching it and I want to cry. Just the thought of them being mean to her makes me sad. People being mean to elderly people guts me. I don't think I could handle watching it.
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