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Tomb Raider Creators Are No Longer Referring to Attempted ‘Rape’ Scene As an Attempted Rape Scene...



The creators of the new Tomb Raider have denied that their new game features an "attempted rape scene," directly contradicting their own statements to Kotaku last week.

Addressing the widespread reactions to the article posted on this site Monday, Crystal Dynamics studio head Darrell Gallagher released a statement today saying that there is no rape attempt against Tomb Raider hero Lara Croft in the scene shown in their "Crossroads" trailer.



"One of the character defining moments for Lara in the game, which has incorrectly been referred to as an 'attempted rape' scene is the content we showed at this year's E3 and which over a million people have now seen in our recent trailer entitled 'Crossroads'," Gallagher wrote. "This is where Lara is forced to kill another human for the first time. In this particular selection, while there is a threatening undertone in the sequence and surrounding drama, it never goes any further than the scenes that we have already shown publicly.

"Sexual assault of any kind is categorically not a theme that we cover in this game."


This directly contradicts a statement made from Crystal Dynamics Executive Producer Ron Rosenberg to Kotaku last week in Los Angeles. Here's the relevant transcript from that interview:

RON: "And then what happens is her best friend gets kidnapped, she gets taken prisoner by scavengers on the island. They try to rape her, and-"

KOTAKU: "They try to rape her?"

RON: "She's literally turned into a cornered animal. And that's a huge step in her evolution: she's either forced to fight back or die and that's what we're showing today."


Here's a YouTube clip of the scene in question:



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Mother. Fucker.



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ooh_mrdarcy 15th-Jun-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
How is that not attempted rape?
They're just trying to keep the age restrictions low, no 18+ stuff. Assholes.
fakevoices 15th-Jun-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
slightly ot but my friend and i were talking and she told me about how a guy three years older than her when she was younger made her do stuff to him and i was so shocked and telling her that it was wrong what he did but she was just like, "its not like i said no or something"

this world is sad
sugarcrawler 15th-Jun-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
omg :(
thenylonkid 15th-Jun-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
My ex told me similar things. He said things like "well I'm a guy, I'm not going to refuse a hot older woman". He was 13.
liberty 15th-Jun-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
ugh this is terrible. I feel so bad when boys are abused this way because everyone is telling them it's a good thing so the end up buying into it, no matter how they might feel at the time or later :(
invitroblossoms 15th-Jun-2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
I just realized some not so nice things about a situation I was in 8 years after the fact. If it had happened to someone else it would have been clear as day to me but because it happened to me I couldn't wrap my brain around it (and still can't tbh). Sometimes the closer you are the harder it is to see the reality of things.
ooh_mrdarcy 15th-Jun-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
she's gonna have issues when she finally figures it out
vervain 15th-Jun-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
i remember things from time to time from my teen years (and childhood) that now i'd consider sexual assault but back then i didn't because i was scared of not being wanted and thought that was how relationships went with people. it scares me how vulnerable i used to be and that maybe i'm still that vulnerable and what if i don't realise it myself?

i am very conflicted with myself. :/
d00ditsemily 15th-Jun-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
I feel like this about one of my sexual encounters too. When I was 17, I went over to a guy's house and we were making out and then he started asking me to do things and I kept saying no but I eventually just did it. I even said no over and over loudly and he said 'you need to quiet done and be quiet, my roommate is going to think I'm raping you' and he had me cornered so I eventually just laid there and pretended I enjoyed it. To this day idk what to consider it... years later he found me even moved to the town that I moved to hours away and started trying to talk to me and tell me that he found pregnant women ( i was then pregnant and married) sexy etc. I haven't heard from him in 3 years though thank god
shangman 15th-Jun-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
I hate situations like that. D: It's so easy when you're younger to be lead into doing something you don't want to because you're afraid to, or you don't know how to say no so you just go along with it and feel horrible afterwards. :c
Sex ed that talked about how to say no and being confident in yourself when it comes to sex would be really fucking useful.
fusilli_head 15th-Jun-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
I had a very similar situation happen to me over two years. It took me a long time to admit to myself that it was absolutely rape, even though my understanding of it previously involved the things you see on television with lots of violence and saying no. I can understand why she may not identify it that way, or even refuse to identify it that way. I've had a lot of conversations with people about the idea that lots more people than we know are forced into sexual situations they don't want to be in because it's so much more socially acceptable to just say yes and not disappoint somebody, or something like that. Specifically for me, I was in a straight relationship and the guy in question used my sexuality as the incentive to essentially prove that I was straight enough to have sex with men, even though I had identified as bisexual with way more sexual experience with women. To this day, I often wonder if my sexual identity is fucked up because of that relationship.
caulifloral 15th-Jun-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
i had a similar experience. i eventually was miraculously able to talk my way out of the situation before clothes were officially removed (i still don't know how, seriously i was so drunk and he was so cool and intimidating). of course, he then harassed me over the next year including a longass ~girls with daddy issues that'd be really pretty if they etc etc etc and desperately cling to their v-cards etc cockteases etc etc~ tangent in the middle of his graduation speech whilst staring me down (which really sucked, since it wound up causing a bit of a stir so i had to listen to speculation about it for weeks after).

but i really didn't think of it as any kind of harassment/victimization at the time - i just felt like what he'd called me tbh and like i only had myself to blame for getting in over my head with a guy who knew what he wanted.
whiterosemaiden 15th-Jun-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
When I was a teenager I was very very overweight - but I lost it all around 19-20, and my then boyfriend suddenly got very pushy for sex. Basically, he wouldn't talk to me at all through the evening, then would come to bed past midnight, wake me up, and force himself on me... but I never fought back, because I have so many mucked up issues regarding the way I look because I spent so long being the huge girl, etc etc.

It took me over five years to leave him, and it's only over the past year that I've realised how yuck it all was and how much it's made me devalue my body. I'm married now, but I have panic attacks if we start to have intercourse in the dark or past a certain time at night. Thank god I have the best husband in the world who never pushes, and is more than willing to hold me and just have cuddles.

Never mentioned this to anyone except my husband. Sorry if it's too much to share. Just... it was comforting to see that I'm not alone. Group hug?
mjspice 16th-Jun-2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
Damn...
hiclasslowlife ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
mrflagg Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
thenylonkid Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
aww kitty should have trusted his/her instincts :(
hiclasslowlife Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
lol omg
rydiachachunk Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 07:01 pm (UTC)
lol That cat was probably thinking this is gonna be the best sleep spot ever ):
ppgames Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 07:34 pm (UTC)
lol i am laughing so hard at this
vervain Re: ugh just enough with this15th-Jun-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
hilda was my favourite in sabrina.
mrflagg 15th-Jun-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
rape?
or rape rape?
kindakooky 15th-Jun-2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
neither.

rapitty rapey rape
sugarcrawler 15th-Jun-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
yeah cause thats gonna change the context of the scene..
that being said, tomb raider is one of my fave games, i dont want it to be ruined by this sort of stuff :(
invitroblossoms 15th-Jun-2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
Same :( I've loved the series for so long and this stuff is so disappointing.
sassandthecity 15th-Jun-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
"It's not attempted rape ATTEMPTED RAPE" said new Tomb Raider spokeswoman Whoopi Goldberg.
recordofme 15th-Jun-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
IKR? Disgusted with this whole thing.
devymel12 15th-Jun-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
what the fuck
betelgeuse 15th-Jun-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
Y'know, I was pretty damn excited to play this game but this mess has just guaranteed that I will not be buying it when it comes out, so fuck them.
buttercup31 15th-Jun-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
They just conceded it was attempted rape and tried to justify it because it "makes her stronger." These guys are bigger morons than I thought.
sugarcrawler 15th-Jun-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
mte
ooh_mrdarcy 15th-Jun-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
I fucking hate when ppl think attempted rape means character development.
Ugh.
buttercup31 15th-Jun-2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
I know, right? It's pretty much the cheapest ploy you can use with a female character. The original had plenty of character development without needing to stoop to attempted rape.
agatharuncible 15th-Jun-2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
did they try to justify it with that, though? I saw an article a while ago where one of the guys behind this (I think) was saying that this was actually meant to make her appear more vulnerable and make players want to protect her

gross either way
abiding 15th-Jun-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah I'm still not buying this shit.
littlehayzay 15th-Jun-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
OK, even if they weren't full of shit, YOU STILL DON'T CALL A WOMAN A CORNERED ANIMAL.

Disgusting.
wholly_cow 15th-Jun-2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
assholes
gabzillaz 15th-Jun-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
darkwarrior 15th-Jun-2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
It's not even that its sexist, it's that it is the laziest, most cliche form of where a woman gets her drive.

Guy gets it from murdered/raped girlfriend/sister or a dead relative.

Girl gets it very often from rape or abuse, particularly in comic books. The strong woman from X-Men just had an origin story that involved an abusive father.
shadowpiranha 15th-Jun-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
Truth. Women either get fridged for a guy's drive or get abused by a guy for their drive. Can't win.
liberty 15th-Jun-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
fridged lol
spankmypirate 15th-Jun-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
IA. For example, on BSG it always annoyed me that they gave female!Starbuck a background of abuse, whereas her older male counterpart had nothing of the kind.
ms_mmelissa 15th-Jun-2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
Guy gets it from murdered/raped girlfriend/sister or a dead relative.

I loathe this fiction trope.
openpick 15th-Jun-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
i agree with all of this, except for the "it's not even that it's sexist" part. it's lazy, yes, and it's also very sexist.
caulifloral 15th-Jun-2012 08:33 pm (UTC)
this. it gets reeeeeeeeeeeeeally gross and problematic when you consider this kind of thing in the context of media as a whole - particularly video games/comic books, and i'd add horror movies to that mix, just to fill out the "entertainment marketed mainly to young/teen boys" pile. which makes it extra disturbing - this is the image of womanhood that society feeds boys, again and again.
shadowpiranha 15th-Jun-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
Jesus fucking Christ what painful experience doesn't she go through?

Also, sorry Whoopi that's Attempted Rape, Rape. Couldn't she get her drive/build up her inner strength without being almost raped? I mean, can't women be strong until they survive rape/attempted rape? Laaaazyyyyy.

Edited at 2012-06-15 07:07 pm (UTC)
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