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5:01 pm - 06/14/2012

Benedict Cumberbatch interview: Sherlock at 50 (and the Downton Abbey thing was a joke, people!)


Why Sherlock’s Benedict Cumberbatch has yet to be nominated for an Emmy is a question that might befuddle even his super-sleuth alter-ego. But, rather than solve the mystery, this year it might instead be resolved. Not only is the actor’s name — memorable as it is — on the verge of becoming a household one, thanks to his appearances in two of last year’s Oscar contenders, War Horse and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, but he’s also collared a plum role in the highly anticipated Star Trek sequel. On top of all that, his work in his PBS hit’s second season was — almost unimaginably — better than his work in the first. In the following Q&A, Cumberbatch talks about “switching on” the Sherlock engine, looks ahead to Season 3 (and beyond!) and shares his real thoughts about Downton Abbey.

---Of the three episodes in Season 2, Masterpiece has chosen to submit “A Scandal in Belgravia” for Emmy consideration. Do you agree that that was the strongest of the three?

It’s tough to say. It was the first you got to see Holmes, who at times is less than heroic and very adolescent, experience love. Not that he was in love, but he was in the midst of playing or experiencing or being seduced and toyed by and with love. It was a very smart play on the Irene Adler story. Irene [played by Lara Pulver] and Sherlock were like two predators circling each other waiting for the kill — it was hardly conducive to the normal conversation you would have on a first date. It was really, really enticing because it works on the principle that the best romantic stories are about the waiting [and] the game; the audience is just waiting for something to happen, and it doesn’t necessarily happen. I think it combines so many elements of what the show is about: the wit, the action, the visual style. [“Belgravia”] also [spanned] quite a long period of time, which made it feel weirdly more like a film than most anything I’ve ever done. It’s impossible to say whether it’s the better one. But I’m very proud of it.


---What were the particular acting challenges you faced depicting the twisted relationship between Irene and Sherlock?

Well, he’s supposedly an asexual, emotionless machine, and has cut off feelings of attraction or sensory enjoyment or interest in the female form other than to gain information. So it was [about] how to get the audience to believe that you could possibly be in a position that was vulnerable — how could he possibly be feeling something for this woman? But the thing about [Irene] that is very obvious when you read [the 1891 short story by Arthur Conan Doyle in which the character is first introduced] is Sherlock definitely does fall for her and he does lose his cool; he’s no longer the logical machine. He fell for her charms. And so it was a balancing act, but it was so deftly written [by Steven Moffat] that it was so easy to do.

Scandal in Belgravia:


---Do you have a process for getting into character as Sherlock, or do you just show up and wham — you’re him?

[Laughs] No, I’m much slower than him. I have to rev up an engine that needs a lot of oil and concentration and focus. There’s an elasticity to his movements as well. He’s ferociously expressive and I’m very still and content, so there’s different mood swings and temperatures and tones to experiment with in any given situation. But I take my time. I’m very good at switching it on.

---The awareness for the show is not as high here in the U.S. as it is in Britain, but that seems to be changing. Are you feeling that shift as you spend more time in the States?

I am a bit. We don’t have a massive publicity budget, and I’ve been in L.A. for three and a half months now [shooting Star Trek] and every other day I’m passing a billboard of Game of Thrones or The Killing or Mad Men — all shows I love. It would just be wonderful to drive down [Sunset Blvd.] and see one Sherlock poster. It would make me feel like we’re reaching out to the bored and confused Angelenos in their traffic jams and just making them think about it because there’s [so much competition] for the viewing audience now; there’s so much high quality. So for a PBS show to gain the kind of audience we’ve got is a huge testament to how popular we are. And you know, we’re not a period drama — and I don’t mean that disparagingly [against Downton Abbey], despite how my comments have been [misinterpreted in the past]. There’s a romantic association with British history and nostalgia, which fuels that across the generations, whereas I think [Sherlock] has encapsulated a younger audience.

---Speaking of your past comments, did you get any blowback from the perceived slam you made against Abbey’s second season in that recent New York Times article? (Editor’s Note: In the piece, Cumberbatch recalled an incident at the Golden Globes in January where Masterpiece exec Rebecca Eaton playfully taunted him with the statue Abbey had just won. “I just looked at it and went: ‘Begone, woman,’” he recounted. ‘Bring it back when it says Sherlock or Steven Moffat or myself — someone else who’s more deserving than the second (season) of Downton Abbey.’”)

Oh God, you would not believe it! I mean, honestly, it’s like people don’t have any sense of irony or a brain. First of all, I knew it was the first [season] that it was getting awarded for, so that was the first part of the joke. The second part is that Rebecca Eaton, the executive producer on Sherlock and Downton, is a friend. The third, and probably the most important, is that [Abbey creator] Julian Fellowes has known me since I was born. [Abbey leading man] Dan Stevens is one of my good friends — one of my closest friends in England — as is Michelle Dockery. There’s just no way I would say something like that without it being tongue-in-cheek. And I don’t walk around town saying ‘Begone, woman!’ And suddenly [I’m in the middle of] a PR disaster. Maybe I am a PR disaster because I talk too much or don’t filter enough. But I was kind of mortified. I play such a contemporaneous, vile and whiplash-smart [character] who doesn’t [tolerate] mediocrity or any type of bureaucracy or any stupidity, and yet as an actor — a misunderstood actor – you have to put up with a lot of it. So I just let that go. I can tell you I’m a huge fan of Downton, and what I said was quite, quite clearly – to most intelligent New York Times readers – a joke.

---It sort of brings up the point that there is an inherent competitiveness to awards.

Well, yeah, but I mean, you have to take it all with a pinch of salt. What we do for a profession is an absolute gift of a job; it’s a blessing. So then awards on top of that? They’re sort of fantasy icing on the cake. Do awards change careers? Well, I haven’t heard of many stories where that’s the case. It’s a fun excuse to meet colleagues and celebrate people who’ve done well that year in certain people’s eyes, and it’s nothing more than that. If it’s taken more seriously than that, then we’re all sort of working for the wrong reasons. So if there’s rivalry, well, you know, it’s pretty much forgotten the minute the next glass of wine is drunk on the night.

---You’re about to be exposed to a much larger audience in J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek sequel. Should we be worried that big-time Hollywood success will take you away from Sherlock?

Oh, no. No, not at all. I’ll always do Sherlock — it’s something I’m not going to give up on. I love it too much. It’s hard work, but it’s so rewarding and such a lovely bunch of people who do it. We love our fans and we love what it’s created. It’s an incredible thing to be part of; it doesn’t happen that often. Don’t worry; it’s not going to disappear.

---When do you start shooting Season 3?

January. That’s the plan.

---And then beyond Season 3?

There’s no reason for us to stop if it’s still being adored and we still enjoy doing it. We only do three [episodes] at a time, so I think the normal fear of over-stretching the mark and just doing too many [doesn’t apply]. It’s good to leave people wanting more. I’d like to see [Sherlock] getting older. We’re starting quite young. It’s rare to see Holmes and Watson at the beginning of their relationship; we usually join them in their mid-to-late 40s or 50s. I’ve got a way to go. I mean, I’m only 35.



Source

The first episode of Sherlock is available for free in HD from iTunes right now (probably US-only).
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comalies 14th-Jun-2012 09:04 pm (UTC)
It was a very smart play on the Irene Adler story.

That's not what I heard...
spankmypirate 14th-Jun-2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
omg Batmanuel!
comalies 14th-Jun-2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
skyfullofleaves 14th-Jun-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
omg Batmanuel!

somewhere I still have an action figure of him.
babydontsweat 14th-Jun-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
i like this guy. he's a great actor, but he comes off like a dick in this interview. i never thought that before. must've been an off day.
jaded56 14th-Jun-2012 09:10 pm (UTC)
mte
jello404 14th-Jun-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
He's the toe f person where you have I see their facial expressions to understand what they're trying I say.
enid_keaner 15th-Jun-2012 12:07 am (UTC)
I feel like I should not be so annoyed by him because 70 % of the time, I'm the same sort of "you have to to see their expressions" person.
xdecadentx 15th-Jun-2012 01:06 pm (UTC)
He can come off like a dick in print interviews. I don't know if that's because he's being a dick or he doesn't translate well.
madonna 14th-Jun-2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
Whaaaaaaaaaat? The Reichenbach Fall was the strongest! I mean, Scandal was good and all, but TRF was by far the strongest performance from Benedict/Martin in that season imo.
jenncho 14th-Jun-2012 09:12 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I don't understand why Scandal keeps getting submitted for performances. I liked the episode but it was my least favorite of the three.
madonna 14th-Jun-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
I'm one of the few that actually really liked Irene, but it definitely wasn't the strongest episode. TRF had everything; love, humor, angst, suspense, etc., so I'm not sure why Scandal keeps getting so much praise. I think Hounds was my least favorite, but I am noticing a pattern because the second episode in series 1 was my least favorite too.
xdecadentx 15th-Jun-2012 01:08 pm (UTC)
Hounds was so much worse.
illname_me_joan 14th-Jun-2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
I swear to god they only submitted ASiB because Moffat wrote it.

TRF is flawfree.
bluepassiflora 14th-Jun-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
I think there were weakness in Reichenbach Fall, particularly in the presentation of the acting and some of the writing that get swept away because of the great height of the highs of the episode. I'm glad Belgravia was submitted for his acting. For example, the scene with Kitty in the bathroom is really bad. I can't pinpoint if it is the directing, writing or the chemistry of the actors (or a combination), but it doesn't look good when judging his acting for awards.

Plus Belgravia is more accessible for voters who haven't watched all of the series.
sweetwaterpink 14th-Jun-2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
I came in here to say just that.
Trishalistic 14th-Jun-2012 10:05 pm (UTC)
ia...Cumberbatch, Freeman & Scott knocked it out of the park
michelleantonia 15th-Jun-2012 08:33 am (UTC)
They're equal to me.
muzik_love 14th-Jun-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
love this show
funkybaby 14th-Jun-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
i'm writing a paper on this episode for my digital cinema class. so excite about it tbh!
_freneticism 14th-Jun-2012 10:18 pm (UTC)
I wrote one for my Film & TV Adaptation class. I really enjoyed it actually and it was a bit of a challenge because there's barely any academic literature on the Sherlock series yet, but it kind of makes you feel a tiny bit pioneering haha! Good luck with it!
funkybaby 15th-Jun-2012 05:40 am (UTC)
have you managed to find any academic lit?
i need to use three sources and i'm missing some, i'd love to hear what you've come up with! it doesn't have to be about sherlock specifically, either.
aubade_saudade 14th-Jun-2012 09:14 pm (UTC)
I loved Irene, but I expected something better. The story was too much like something out of The Celluloid Closet. The fact that she was saved by Sherlock instead of schooling his ass was kinda revolting
winniechili 14th-Jun-2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
I don't care about Sherlock so I wasn't mad about the fact that the story was changed, but I hated that she was about to be beheaded at the end before he swoops in to save her.
aubade_saudade 14th-Jun-2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
I care if the story is changed to the degree that it becomes a hollywood stereotype of how lesbians are, when it's not even a hollywood production


But yeah, that was nauseating

oop @ the abundance of o's

Edited at 2012-06-14 09:22 pm (UTC)
xpirate_queenx 15th-Jun-2012 12:34 am (UTC)
To be fair, she was making him look a damn fool throughout pretty much the entire episode.
aemmanuel 15th-Jun-2012 02:12 am (UTC)
As long as it's called "Sherlock" and Moffatt and Gatiss are writing it with only nods to canon, no way any villain gets to "school" Sherlock.
And, this is important I think, Adler WAS written as a villain in this version. She could NOT be allowed to win in the final analysis.
If you're angry about how they used her character (which I can totally understand) then it starts with the decision to make her a villain, unlike in canon, where she is a wronged woman being victimized by a former lover who manages to overcome both that lover and his agent, Sherlock Holmes, with her smarts.
I understand people's anger at Moffatt's use of Irene in "Sherlock" but I really believe that his making her clearly a villain in the piece explains a lot.
Of course that last scene with Sherlock "saving" her was utter bullshit in my estimation. And I refuse to believe it was anything but pure fantasizing on Sherlock's part and not something that actually happened.
scriptedending 14th-Jun-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
I definitely liked A Scandal in Belgravia best of the S2 episodes. And I am very happy to hear he wants to continue on with Sherlock! Sounds like a guy who can't help but put his foot in his mouth on occasion, and there is nothing wrong with that. He's human.
jenncho 14th-Jun-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
Love him and really do hope he gets a nomination but seeing as its for Scandal I really doubt it. You had to be a real Anderson to not know he was joking about the whole Downton mess.
winniechili 14th-Jun-2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
He's pretty dickish, isn't he?
aubade_saudade 14th-Jun-2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
I think that's true of everyone, on occasion
bloodydru 14th-Jun-2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
Nah, just ~misunderstood~, duh.

(That said, I did think the DA comment was a joke, but dude's in serious need of some PR training.)
wauwy 14th-Jun-2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
Yes.
londonshowers 14th-Jun-2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
Yuss
cruel_fortuna 14th-Jun-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
Of all the episodes to submit, they chose the most cliched one?
Well ... that's disappointing.
kanbinayume 14th-Jun-2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
imo hounds of baskerville would be the most cliched.
In the books, scandal really isn't given as much detail as other cases, so there was more room for interpretation imo. I think it was a good choice, but that's just me.
imnotasquirrel 14th-Jun-2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
I mean, honestly, it’s like people don’t have any sense of irony or a brain.

ironic like the alanis song?
bloodydru 14th-Jun-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
fruitchews 14th-Jun-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
It's like rain on your wedding day.
kanbinayume 14th-Jun-2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
Hounds of Baskerville was my favorite S2 episode. TRF was good as well (because of Andrew Scott's perfection), but for some reason it seemed a little choppy to me.
jenncho 14th-Jun-2012 09:24 pm (UTC)
I really liked HoB. It's my second favorite of the three but its also the one I've rewatched the most.
kanbinayume 14th-Jun-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
lol I think I've rewatched season 2 around five times already.
I just really liked how they portrayed it, especially with all of sherlock's emotions surfacing.
bluepassiflora 14th-Jun-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
I agree. It was choppy. I love the series, but I think the episode structures aren't quite polished and it definitely shows in TRF.
winegums 14th-Jun-2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
idk whether I didn't enjoy it as much bc I knew who the culprit was (ty, ACD never getting out of my head) or what, but I don't think it was a ~bad episode like people say.
skeet_skeet 14th-Jun-2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
If that was a joke what was the punchline.
bluepassiflora 14th-Jun-2012 09:38 pm (UTC)
Not all jokes have a punchline.
skeet_skeet 14th-Jun-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
It probably needed one because it was severely lacking in that ha ha factor.
jenncho Frankenstein14th-Jun-2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
It's been a week and I still can't deal with all my feelings for how fucking amazing he was in that. JLM was really good too but as the Creature BC was just in an entirely different class. I almost wished I saw the JLM Creature first because I kept comparing the entire second night.
bluepassiflora 14th-Jun-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
Yes! Frankenstein! It and he were so amazing. I wish I could see it again.
saltireflower 14th-Jun-2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
Omg I missed Frankenstein? Did that air on TV or something?
black_swan87 14th-Jun-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
i'm so happy the theater that's showing it here is offering both showings for $20
ebenetwo 14th-Jun-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
yaaassss i saw both but i think i preferred him as the creature

P E R F E C T

Naomie was adorable and they needed to kiss more haha
glass_houses 14th-Jun-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
It's a good idea they only do three episodes at a time, otherwise there wouldn't be as much to look forward to.
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