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2:54 pm - 05/31/2012

More Ironman 3 Set pics + Why Loki really won in the Avengers.

Offering an idea what the scene deals with, more photos from the Wilmington set of Iron Man 3 have surfaced with James Badge Dale donning the Iron Patriot armor, along with uniformed extras.
DCMarvelFreshman - 5/30/2012

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New IRONMAN 3 Set Pics

Following the reports and unexpected sightings of the Iron Patriot armor on the Wilmington set of Iron Man 3, WTDD have revealed additional photos from the shoot. Offering more views of the battlesuit, reportedly donned by actor James Badge Dale (Eric Savin), in addition to uniformed "Serviceman" extras, check them out!

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Described as a “technological crisis thriller,” set in the world of international war, arms & terror, Marvel Studios' “Iron Man 3” stars Robert Downey Jr., Gwyneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle, Guy Pearce, Rebecca Hall, Andy Lau, Ashley Hamilton, James Badge Dale, with Sir Ben Kingsley and Jon Favreau. Shane Black (“Kiss Kiss Bang Bang”) takes over directorial duties from Jon Favreau, who helmed the first two “Iron Man” films. Principal photography will occur primarily in North Carolina and China. And “Iron Man 3” is set for release in May 3, 2013.

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Very Good Writing – Why Loki Won in The Avengers

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Spoiler Alert! Avoid reading this post if you haven’t seen The Avengers.

No really, look away!

O.k., let’s talk about The Avengers, the highest grossing movie so far this year, and the movie on track to potentially unseat James Cameron’s Avatar as highest grossing movie of all time. Specifically, I want to talk about the writing and Loki, the film’s key villain. More specifically, I want to explain how Joss Whedon managed to write the perfect Xanatos Gambit.

For those who don’t know or didn’t click the link above, a Xanatos Gambit (named for the villain Xanatos from Disney’s Gargoyles cartoon) is a plan that literally cannot fail because win or lose, the villain wins. This is one of those “I wanted you to beat me all along” scenarios, where defeating the villain somehow means the hero still loses. This isn’t changing your plans to compensate or getting lucky, this is planning all along for every possible outcome to lead to what you want. And Loki in the Avengers does so perfectly.

First, let’s get some background on Loki, God of Mischief and Lies. Check out that title – he’s the god of lies. Now in both the Marvel cinematic and comic book universes, being a “god” doesn’t really make you the embodiment of whatever you’re the god of; the comic book universe DOES have those things (Death, Eternity, Aeon, etc.) and the cinematic universe may gain those things (based on the Thanos cameo), but generally Thor is not the embodiment of thunder, and Hercules isn’t the embodiment of strength, etc. It’s just what they’re really good at, because they are actually alien beings from another dimension. Loki, then, is not the embodiment of lies and mischief, but he’s really good at it.

Loki really has only one goal in life – take over Asgard. He wants to rule. He feels Thor, his half brother, is not fit to take over for Odin and he wants that power for himself. Loki does not care one wit about Midgard (aka Earth). He’ll put it in peril to distract Thor, but Loki is all about controlling Asgard. Re-read those last two sentences – Loki doesn’t care about Earth! So why, in The Avengers, is he trying to take over? That very question is asked by Tony Stark during the penthouse scene. Tony comes very close to puzzling it out, but Loki distracts him with his villainy goodness (badness?). Why does Loki was to rule Earth? And what Earth would be left to rule with the Chitauri tearing it all up? What throne is he looking for?

The answer, of course, is that Loki doesn’t want to rule Earth. He doesn’t care about it. He never did. He allowed himself to be captured, he allowed himself to be defeated (and yeah, Hulk smashed him good, but he didn’t have to stick around for the big fight). It was all part of his plan.

Let’s examine that plan: first, Loki appears and steals the tesseract. Why? Well, to set things in motion. He knew stealing the cube would cause Nick Fury to call in the Avengers. Remember the ending of Thor – he’s been spying on the whole operation for some time now. Then, Loki gets captured. He clearly could have escaped, but instead he let himself be taken. Cap and Tony mention this on the Quinjet just before Thor shows up, and Black Widow eventually gets from Loki what his plan is – to set off the Hulk on the helicarrier. Only Loki is the god of lies…you think he really got played by the Black Widow? Nope, he WANTED them to know what the plan was. Then when it happens, and the Hulk goes berserk, they blame it on Loki and it really brings the team together.

And that’s what Loki wanted.

See, Loki wanted them to defeat the Chitauri. He wanted to lose the battle in New York. Why? So he could be taken back to Asgard. That was his plan all along. He never cared about conquering Earth. He never cared about defeating the Avengers. He just wanted a ride back to his home, the place he DOES want to conquer. And he got it, first class accommodations right back to Asgard. You can even see the smirk at the end when he’s got the gag on. It’s in his eyes. He won, and the heroes all thought they did. What better than to beat your enemies and make them think they won?

Now you may ask why Loki would betray Thanos in such a way. I mean, Big Purple is no one to mess around with. But I think Thanos was the co-architect of this plan. Why? Because he wants Loki back in Asgard too. Just sending him back wouldn’t work – Loki has to be brought back by Thor so that Odin does not suspect he’s still working with Thanos. See, with Loki back in Asgard, and knowing that Odin feels incredibly guilty about Loki in general and usually lets him off with little more than a slap to the wrist, Thanos has the perfect operative within striking distance of the one thing in the whole universe he REALLY wants (well, more than Death).

What is it Thanos wants? Did you miss it when you saw Thor? It’s easy to miss, but…

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That’s right…in Odin’t vault is none other than the Infinity Gauntlet. And now Loki is right there, and he broke into it before without much trouble. Loki losing to the Avengers was the best possible outcome for both Loki, who can now try to take over Asgard again, and Thanos, who now has potential access to the Infinity Gauntlet.

The bad guys won this round, and meanwhile the heroes are off eating Shawarma and thinking they won.

And all of this points to one thing – Joss Whedon is a fucking genius. This is Machiavellian planning at its best, and the payoff clearly won’t come until at least Thor 2 or Avengers 2. It’s a perfect set up, and with luck we’ll eventually see that the “win” in the Avengers was actually a loss. Of course, that’s not to say the heroes didn’t really win anything. They did…because while the battle was nothing more than an elaborate smoke and mirrors to get Loki back to Asgard, the formation of the Avengers is actually the biggest win for the side of good you could hope for.

It’s all about the long game, and writers who understand and can use it.

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It's a very interesting theory, and TBH, I hope it's true!
edit: although this vaguely makes sense, i was wondering how THANOS was going to get the gauntlet since we clearly see it in Odin's room during THOR. Guess we'll see in thor2

Loki's trump FTW!


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letitrainblue 31st-May-2012 07:06 am (UTC)
Ugh, it's too early to break down and post crying gifs that I need this movie in my life right now. I'll sit sit back and enjoy the ride.

As for the Loki part, I respectfully disagree.
andromakhe001 31st-May-2012 07:15 am (UTC)
Yeah I have to say, I don't agree re: Loki either. I really don't think that's what Loki's plan was. Yes he wanted to get captured originally but he didn't want to lose on earth, because he doesn't really want Thanos or whoever he thinks he was working with to come after him. No he didn't look pleased at that idea at all.

Now Loki may well manage to come with a plan to make it work in his favor at some point for a time, but no Loki didn't want to lose, didn't want end up going back to Asgard "in irons" so to speak and doesn't want Thanos coming after him. This Loki really isn't that much of a long term planning genius, he likes to think he is perhaps, but he's really more emotional than anything.
hammersxstrings 31st-May-2012 01:54 pm (UTC)
ia with this. I think you can see it in his face (Hiddles is so flawless) near the end when Thor says something about ending it, and he looks almost frightened, and says nothing can. i think he's more a guy that was driven by this inferiority complex and got in over his head with everything.

greenfairy_87 31st-May-2012 05:06 pm (UTC)
I was totally on this article until it said that Loki wanted to rule Asgard more than anything. No, Loki wanted to be seen as Thor's equal more than anything.
polaroidmoment 31st-May-2012 09:38 am (UTC)
I agree with your disagreement on Loki, lol. I thought he straight up said in Thor that he didn't want to rule Asgard alone, that he wanted to rule with Thor together?

And by the Avengers, he basically made a deal with the devil to get his army on Earth and now that he didn't deliver his side of the bargain.. well that does not mean good things for Loki.
isntdaveone 31st-May-2012 07:06 am (UTC)
it's going to take some time to get used to that ridiculous costume.
jrh19782002 31st-May-2012 06:38 pm (UTC)
its like iron man and captain america had a kid.lol
baloola 31st-May-2012 07:06 am (UTC)
I caught that gif in the middle and for a few seconds I thought it was a real animal attack.
frostysadie 31st-May-2012 07:48 am (UTC)
i thought it was a guy getting eaten by a mechanical shark. :/
megedeborch 31st-May-2012 07:07 am (UTC)
Iron Patriot??? Ok then.

He wanted to lose the battle in New York. Why? So he could be taken back to Asgard. That was his plan all along.

He put a lot of effort into something he could have had just by asking Thor/Odin/whoever.
letitrainblue 31st-May-2012 07:09 am (UTC)
MTE

I just don't see it.. Thor asked him about 20 million times to come home.. And he would have gone home without being a prisoner. I don't see it tbh
isntdaveone 31st-May-2012 07:10 am (UTC)
He put a lot of effort into something he could have had just by asking Thor.

that's the only reason Thor came back to Earth, to take Loki back to Asgardia. he could've waited a couple of minutes!

SMDH!

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guadalcanal 31st-May-2012 07:44 am (UTC)
but does Loki seem like a dude who would ask for anything

plus, he got to cause mischief and mayhem!!! and he had to worry about the Others (and Thanos~) who don't seem to be his buddies
megedeborch 31st-May-2012 07:58 am (UTC)
No, he really doesn't seem like he would ask, but he could have caused mayhem & mischief without Thanos, because Loki didn't seem to be in full control over his plan, which is highly unlikely for him. And in the end he only wants to get respect & love from Thor & Odin, so destroying New York kinda works against the idea.
serenedawn 31st-May-2012 07:07 am (UTC)
mjspice 31st-May-2012 07:46 am (UTC)
Your icon & your avatar match. :O:O
alkalinecupcake 31st-May-2012 07:49 am (UTC)
omg so sexxxxx.
lovetake_over 31st-May-2012 07:52 am (UTC)
ugh
speakrzrthumpin 31st-May-2012 07:53 am (UTC)
Mad Tom sexxxxxxxxyy.
arbiterin 31st-May-2012 08:05 am (UTC)







lord have mercy.
ljubavirakija 31st-May-2012 02:08 pm (UTC)
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camila12j 31st-May-2012 02:37 pm (UTC)
dfklgfl;g
chaquitalicia04 1st-Jun-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
Unf.
joxxy 31st-May-2012 07:08 am (UTC)
Tom Hiddleston plays Loki perfectly
crashnsing 31st-May-2012 07:08 am (UTC)
This is totally going to turn into an Avengers party post and I'm literally about to shut this off to go to bed. Fail ONTD. Fail. I always miss these :(((((
numbedtoe 31st-May-2012 08:26 am (UTC)
SAME. so tired. cute icon though bb
crashnsing 31st-May-2012 04:19 pm (UTC)
I was exhausted and knew I already was only going to get about 5hrs. This would have been fun though :D And thanks <3 You have a cute one yourself ;)
andthenwevomit 31st-May-2012 08:54 am (UTC)
story of my life, only I'm at work and can't afford more than 5 minutes of peeking in ;_;
skippity_doo 31st-May-2012 09:27 am (UTC)
Aww, don't be sad, bb.
creative_candy 31st-May-2012 07:08 am (UTC)
Loki got what he wanted in the end.kinda.
wiluplsbquiet 31st-May-2012 07:10 am (UTC)
kp199 31st-May-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
Aww, if my Ma was still alive she'd absolutely love this. She was crazy for cats <\3
mjspice 31st-May-2012 07:46 am (UTC)
Lol I say this before. Cute!
lovetake_over 31st-May-2012 07:52 am (UTC)
omg this is adorable
numbedtoe 31st-May-2012 08:26 am (UTC)
i love this. lmao
chantonii 31st-May-2012 09:13 am (UTC)
LOL aw.
winegums 31st-May-2012 09:16 am (UTC)
brucelynn 31st-May-2012 07:10 am (UTC)
I need to see The Avengers one more time....just one more time
vivelegardien 1st-Jun-2012 02:39 am (UTC)
I keep telling myself that, and it's never the last time. I'm an Avengerjunkie.
kp199 31st-May-2012 07:11 am (UTC)
My five year old nephew thinks I'm crazy for having Loki as my lock screen on my iPad and iPhone since forever. I can't help it, Tom/Loki is my fave. Conundrum....

And LMFAO at that gif! Holy hell

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lulamadison 31st-May-2012 11:18 am (UTC)
My 6 year old cousin told me that I can't marry Loki because he is just a character and he isn't real!
lavosspawn 31st-May-2012 03:13 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, rude.
xpirate_queenx 31st-May-2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
"...oh yeah? You're six. What do you contribute to society?"
demonsandsongs 31st-May-2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
That would be the perfect time to respond with "I do what I want, Thor!"
brucelynn 31st-May-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
Also it's just going to be so weird seeing all of the movies without the other Avengers in it lol....I'm too attached to that movie
prophecypro 31st-May-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
Considering Avengers is still out and they only just wrapped the promo, I'm a little surprised they jumped this quick to the filming of the next Marvel movie. They knocking these out like clockwork.
ladywilde80 31st-May-2012 11:02 am (UTC)
I'm all for that tbh. Bring them on.
xpirate_queenx 31st-May-2012 04:02 pm (UTC)
If nothing, they're expedient.
bellwetherr 31st-May-2012 08:55 pm (UTC)
thor will go into production soon too, it's got a release set for next november.
deviousweasel 31st-May-2012 07:20 am (UTC)
I had a feeling that maybe everything that had happened in the Avengers was all according to Loki's plan, and that his loss wasn't REALLY a loss. Didn't figure out the Infinity Gauntlet thing tho. IDK, I think if it's true that would be an interesting twist on it. I hope they touch on it in Thor 2.
brownxeyedxdork 31st-May-2012 07:22 am (UTC)
I'm just curious to see how they'll tie all of this together. (Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet,Iron Patriot,and the Extremis arc.)

Hell I'm still surprised that they cast the Mandarin in IM3.
bellwetherr 31st-May-2012 09:09 pm (UTC)
has that been confirmed though?
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