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1:48 am - 05/21/2012

Can you identify?

Science shows that the only way around some readers' prejudices is to trick them


By Laura Miller




The news of recent research documenting how readers identify with the main characters in stories has mostly been taken as confirmation of the value of literary role models. Lisa Libby, an assistant professor at Ohio State University and co-author of a study published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, explained that subjects who read a short story in which the protagonist overcomes obstacles in order to vote were more likely to vote themselves several days later.


The suggestibility of readers isn’t news. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s novel of a sensitive young man destroyed by unrequited love, “The Sorrows of Young Werther,” inspired a rash of suicides by would-be Werthers in the late 1700s. Jack Kerouac has launched a thousand road trips. Still, this is part of science’s job: Running empirical tests on common knowledge — if for no other reason than because common knowledge (and common sense) is often wrong.


A far more unsettling finding is buried in this otherwise up-with-reading news item. The Ohio State researchers gave 70 heterosexual male readers stories about a college student much like themselves. In one version, the character was straight. In another, the character is described as gay early in the story. In a third version the character is gay, but this isn’t revealed until near the end. In each case, the readers’ “experience-taking” — the name these researchers have given to the act of immersing oneself in the perspective, thoughts and emotions of a story’s protagonist — was measured.



The straight readers were far more likely to take on the experience of the main character if they weren’t told until late in the story that he was different from themselves. This, too, is not so surprising. Human beings are notorious for extending more of their sympathy to people they perceive as being of their own kind. But the researchers also found that readers of the “gay-late” story showed “significantly more favorable attitudes toward homosexuals” than the other two groups of readers, and that they were less likely to attribute stereotypically gay traits, such as effeminacy, to the main character. The “gay-late” story actually reduced their biases (conscious or not) against gays, and made them more empathetic. Similar results were found when white readers were given stories about black characters to read.


What can we do with this information? If we subscribe to the idea that literature ought to improve people’s characters — and that’s the sentiment that seems to be lurking behind the study itself — then perhaps authors and publishers should be encouraged to conceal a main character’s race or sexual orientation from readers until they become invested in him or her. Who knows how much J.K. Rowling’s revelation that Albus Dumbledore is gay, announced after the publication of the final Harry Potter book, has helped to combat homophobia? (Although I confess that I find it hard to believe there were that many homophobic Potter fans in the first place.) Um... I wonder why?


Absurd as this tactic may sound, many publishers are already kind of doing it — and catching hell. Although the term “whitewashing” is most often used to describe film and TV adaptations in which white actors are cast as characters who were people of color in the original book, something similar also happens with book graphics. Novels about black or Asian characters have been given cover art that features white people.


Controversies over cover-art whitewashing, and other attempts by agents, editors and publishers to downplay or even eliminate minority characters, have roiled the world of young adult literature in recent years. The author Justine Larbalestier (who is white) wrote a YA novel, “Liar,” with a black heroine in 2009, but her publisher insisted on using a photograph of a white teenager for the cover. Larbalestier took their disagreement public and the ensuing scandal persuaded the publisher to back down. Ursula K. Le Guin, a revered science-fiction and fantasy author who has often chosen dark-skinned people as her protagonists, has had to put up with seeing them depicted as white in cover art and film adaptations for decades.


Publishers argue that they’re only trying to make sure their authors’ books find the widest possible audience. What they mean is that a certain percentage of white (or straight) readers will summarily conclude a book isn’t for them if the face on the cover fails to resemble their own. Sad to say, the publishers are probably right about that. While the readers in the Ohio State study didn’t get to choose the stories they read, many of them were deciding how much to invest in the protagonist and his experiences — how much to identify — on the basis of his sexual orientation or race.


Authors, fans and observers are rightly disgusted by the practice of cover-art whitewashing. It shouldn’t have to be that way. But some commentators on the controversy seem to think that if publishers act as if race or gender or sexual orientation isn’t a factor in what many people decide to read, somehow it will simply stop being a factor. This seems unlikely. If it were so easy to rid people of their prejudices, the world would already be a much pleasanter place. It takes regular exposure to different types of people in the course of everyday life — at school and in the military, the workplace and the neighborhood — plus a whole lot of time and peer pressure to wear bias down.


Well, it takes that — and maybe the magic of storytelling? The readers in the Ohio State study did become more understanding of gay and black people after they were (let’s not put too fine a point on it) tricked into identifying with them. This type of sleight-of-hand is something only a non-visual medium like prose fiction can pull off. It can firmly lodge readers inside an imaginary person’s head without ever showing them his or her face. In Neil Gaiman’s “Anasi Boys,” for example, the narrator never explains that all the principle characters are black, and each reader will come to that realization at a different stage in the narrative. It’s Gaiman’s way of tweaking the very common readerly assumption that defaults all major characters to white unless their race is otherwise specified. (And sometimes not even then, as quite a few young fans of “The Hunger Games” demonstrated by being astonished when a supporting character, clearly described as black in the novel, was played by a black actress in the film.)


Of course, not all readers are white or straight, and the ones who aren’t deeply appreciate novels that advertise the diversity of their characters. It’s about time they got heroes and heroines who looked like them, and novels that speak to their distinctive experiences. They have been identifying with characters across the boundaries of race, gender and sexual orientation from time immemorial, and are masters of the art, but understandably they’d like to give their ninja skills a rest. Furthermore, there are also white readers who prefer variety in their fiction or are deliberately trying to correct the imbalances of the past.


Nevertheless, if you believe, as many Americans have since the days of the Puritans, that books ought to morally improve their readers, then maybe there’s a place for a little judicious whitewashing in the writing and publication of fiction. It has literally been demonstrated to change hearts and minds, at least for a while. That’s more than many consciousness-raising efforts — including righteous lectures delivered by the enlightened — can say.


Further reading


Ohio State University’s research blog on the study of the experience-taking while reading stories


Ursula K. Le Guin writes for Slate about the changes made to the race of major characters in the TV adaptation of her “Earthsea Trilogy.”


Hunger Games Tweets, a Tumblr compiling and discussing the response of some fans to the casting of a black actress as a supporting character in the film version of Suzanne Collins’ novel.





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grande_latte 21st-May-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
maybe it's cuz it's late for me but i understood nothing of this. i just read it and i comprehended nothing.
superboy 21st-May-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
Same.

I understood more from the title then the whole article.
deadtree 21st-May-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
Yeah I had to reread quite a bit several times to figure out what was being said.... guess I'm more tired than I thought.
judgmental 21st-May-2012 06:44 am (UTC)
me too tbh
oldseafarer 21st-May-2012 06:52 am (UTC)
no it definitely was unclear
fever 21st-May-2012 06:58 am (UTC)
I gave up on reading it. and I'm glad I did that.
shining_starsxx 21st-May-2012 07:23 am (UTC)
I'm glad it's not just me.
backincharge 21st-May-2012 09:27 am (UTC)
That's why I didn't come into this topic. I had no idea what the hell it's talking about.
beatlesluv 21st-May-2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
Same
redleigh86 21st-May-2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
Basically: the author makes the character more widely relatable in the beginning of the novel, not mentioning race or religion or sexual orientation or whatever, makes the reader identify with and like the character, and then "reveals" later in the story that all along the character was gay or black or something. This is to avoid readers preconceived stereotypes relating to or biases against certain minorities in an attempt to make them see the character is a person and not just a GAY person. or black. or whatever.

Edited at 2012-05-21 06:42 pm (UTC)
badwolfx 21st-May-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
Who knows how much J.K. Rowling’s revelation that Albus Dumbledore is gay, announced after the publication of the final Harry Potter book, has helped to combat homophobia?

I've only ever seen people complain about or mock the fact that Dumbledore is gay tbh
roguewave3 21st-May-2012 06:00 am (UTC)
Me too

I'm confused about the sentence after. I don't know why she thinks Harry Potter fans are less likely to be homophobic in general.
msweetie913 21st-May-2012 06:05 am (UTC)
i thought she was implying that Harry Potter fans are children (or they were when the books were coming out) and young people don't tend to be homophobic but idk
kalie_m 21st-May-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
I thought they were talking about all the kids that write gay fan fiction about the characters, tbh.
kamikashi 21st-May-2012 07:08 am (UTC)
i actually think its because harry potter has themes about not being prejudiced and discriminatory to those that are different, so it would be weird if people loved the books for it but didnt follow the ideology irl. thats what i think the writer assumes.
alexislex 21st-May-2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
I know someone who completely stanned Dumbledore for like five years. After hearing that he's gay, she abandoned the whole fandom.
abcdlovelife 21st-May-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
ikr? and idg how that would combat homophobia
slagathor42 21st-May-2012 06:09 am (UTC)
I disliked the way JKR handled the whole thing. It was all very, "nyah, nyah, the joke's on you!" the way she handed out that information.
hahahey 21st-May-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
yep, me too
secretivexhero 21st-May-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
rly? no one I know mocked that. they were either really surprised or thought it was random, or they said it was obvious lol. no other comments
berry_wish 21st-May-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
Really? Most of the reactions I heard were like "Oh. Okay. Well now I know. That's nice."
malocudoviste 21st-May-2012 08:49 am (UTC)
dumbledore's gay?
eucatastrophe 21st-May-2012 09:49 am (UTC)
I thought it was somewhat pointless because it isn't clear that Dumbledore is gay in the books. Not all HP fans read/watch Rowling's interviews, most of my friends had no idea that Dumbledore was gay until I told them.
Sadly, yeah, I have to agree I've mostly seen mocking/complaining :(
r_a_black 22nd-May-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
The most negative stuff I've seen is that she used the revelation as a way to garner more attention to herself now that the books were done. I think that's total bullshit though, Rowling isn't an attention-seeker.

I have seen a lot of positive mentions of him being gay though.
tw_31988 21st-May-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
tl:dr



Edited at 2012-05-21 05:59 am (UTC)
indignantindigo 21st-May-2012 06:01 am (UTC)
This makes my back hurt.
brucelynn 21st-May-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
Werk dat Bernie
dothecrunge 21st-May-2012 06:09 am (UTC)
lmao this dance kills me
redlipped 21st-May-2012 07:03 am (UTC)
Damn I think I've found my new happy dance!
hershelwalker 21st-May-2012 07:18 am (UTC)
l m a o
lisse_pitch13 21st-May-2012 08:05 am (UTC)
DAMN SLAAAAAAAYED. I LOVE THIS COMPETITIONS.
andthenwevomit 21st-May-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
spread my ashes LMAO
itscomicrelief 21st-May-2012 03:11 pm (UTC)
I always said that if I were to win a major award like an oscar or an emmy, I'd duck walk all the way up to the podium to accept my award because idgaf
redlipped 21st-May-2012 07:02 am (UTC)
I act like that AT LEAST once per week.
brucelynn 21st-May-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
Those Hunger Games tweets....man listen
lestat 21st-May-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
ugh i wanted to vomit after those
cherrybombx 21st-May-2012 07:25 am (UTC)
lol i wonder if that guy's still """suing""" jezebel or whoever. what a freakin baby
redleigh86 21st-May-2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
lol WHAT
shining_starsxx 21st-May-2012 07:25 am (UTC)
Ugh. So depressing.
superboy 21st-May-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
WAH WAH WAH WHITE WHINE
superboy 21st-May-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
Silas would never white wine tho.
muzicnem 21st-May-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
mmmmm white wine
shining_starsxx 21st-May-2012 07:25 am (UTC)
Unf.Hunter Parrish <3
kalie_m 21st-May-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting, op!
indignantindigo 21st-May-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
Totally thought this was going to be about being too picky about books and judging them by their covers because I AM SO GUILTY OF THAT.

Course lately I've had a shit time trying to find a book to read. I'm reading 11 Minutes right now and it's not drawing me in like most books I really enjoy do. I feel hungry for a good escape book.
iceynickles 21st-May-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
I'll judge a book by the way it smells or the color/type of paper it's printed on. If I'm in a library or bookstore I look for books by if the cover or spine looks interesting, then I look at the summary and usually end up putting it back :(
indignantindigo 21st-May-2012 06:12 am (UTC)
Same. When I was collecting books I'd get big into the physically stuff of a book. I didn't want a vintage addition of anything unless the ink really sunk into the paper and you could feel each letter.

Books for me are so strongly sense oriented, I feel like this stuff is actually just as important as the content of the story.
muzicnem 21st-May-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
I do the same thing but really, with the amount of books available, sometimes you've gotta create some sort of method of weeding through them. Even if it's a nonsensical one.
voyevoda 21st-May-2012 06:13 am (UTC)
I do the same thing, heh. Unless there's a strong recommendation from people, a hideous cover will keep me away.
saltireflower 21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
I judge by covers too. No decent publisher should be giving their authors bad covers.
sullen_child 21st-May-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
Me and my sister used to take trips to the library, and I would go through and read all the backs and inside flaps and pick what appealed to me most. A lot of the time, I'd end up not liking the books. My sister, on the other hand, would pick books that had cool covers and I always ended up stealing what she checked out because they turned out to be amazing books.
berry_wish 21st-May-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
I have trouble buying books directly from my kindle because I can't see the cover. Which is dumb really, because it's not like I'll ever see the cover after I download it from the Internet, but whatever.

/shallow
emstrange1 21st-May-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
"Totally thought this was going to be about being too picky about books and judging them by their covers because I AM SO GUILTY OF THAT."

Ditto. But seriously, I'm gonna have to look at the cover every time I open the book, its got to be at least a little interesting to look at.
secretivexhero 21st-May-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
I do that too. i actually value very simple covers tbh.
hope_remains 21st-May-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
Same. When I'm book shopping, I have steps.

1) Pick out a book with an interesting title/cover
2) Skim the summary, and if it still holds my interest
3) Flip to a random page and see if the writing style appeals to me
chimbleysweep 21st-May-2012 07:05 am (UTC)
I want to be an author/illustrator, but I am a graphic designer by degree and training. If I were to one day be published I would probably go a bit crazy not being able to control my own cover.
x_brittacular 21st-May-2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
I judge books on their font size.

Edited at 2012-05-21 08:53 pm (UTC)
fasdsr2 Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:06 am (UTC)
Post your score:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/quiz/2011/jun/02/naipaul-test-author-s-sex-quiz

icangoforthat Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
4/10 :(
rlmoonyk Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:12 am (UTC)
You scored 6 out of a possible 10

Sloppy thinking. You clearly need to read more books by men.
dumpweeds Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
You scored 4 out of a possible 10

Sloppy thinking. You clearly need to read more books by men.

¯\(º o)/¯
voyevoda Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
5/10
mammary_glands Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
6/10 oop
likegunfire Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
not sure if it's good or bad that i got 9/10
mickeymouse Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
You scored 10 out of a possible 10

whossoulsister Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
witch imo
hypermuseic9 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:27 am (UTC)
dayum gurl
werk
icangoforthat Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
WERQ
skyfullofleaves Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
damn, nice!
nene718 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:15 am (UTC)
lmfao
ch33rylips Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
Lol 5/10
styrofoamcastle Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
5/10

"Sloppy thinking. You clearly need to read more books by men."

Does it say that for every score?

Edited at 2012-05-21 06:24 am (UTC)
whossoulsister Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
6/10
winter_lace Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
You scored 6 out of a possible 10

Sloppy thinking. You clearly need to read more books by men


I didn't think I was too bad considering I was judging them by only the first line
reidacted Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:21 am (UTC)
6/10
roguewave3 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
You scored 3 out of a possible 10

Awful. What are you, a girl or something?

oop
hypermuseic9 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
6 out of a possible 10

Sloppy thinking. You clearly need to read more books by men.
oatmealmonster Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
You scored 7 out of a possible 10

without reading past the first few words. not bad lol
missed 2, 4, and 7.
secretivexhero Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
7/10

sometimes u can just tell
emstrange1 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
"You scored 6 out of a possible 10"
aprilfunk Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
6/10!
aleisha_xo Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
3/10

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chuk_is_dazzled Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:35 am (UTC)
6/10
deargirl Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:37 am (UTC)
7/10

My process was if I wasn't into the writing style of the paragraph, I guessed it was probably by a man. I don't know why but contemporary male authors, especially British ones, tend to exude a certain tone/quality in their writing that turns me off. The only one I've read so far that I really loved was Ian McEwan.
ghost_helwig Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
To my utter lack of surprise, this was my score:

0/10

That's right. I missed every single one. Haha. How do you even do that? I can't stop laughing. Apparently I don't identify gender well. :D
queen_insane Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:45 am (UTC)
3/10 but I decided fuck it, I'm sleepy I don't want to read all those words and started guessing after the first one.
affliction Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:54 am (UTC)
6/10
soavantgarde Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:56 am (UTC)
8/10 wuddup
bluepassiflora Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:59 am (UTC)
6/10, which seems to be the most common score. Not too different 50/50, which I would think would be the most common.
odontv Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:02 am (UTC)
8/10

Not bad?
supernature_971 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:04 am (UTC)
lol 3/10

Is that really a bad thing though ?
chrisgold Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:06 am (UTC)
6/10
lovely_joy Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
8/10, but only because I'd already read the books.
cab Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:19 am (UTC)
9/10 i rule
devourlove Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:20 am (UTC)
You scored 8 out of a possible 10

not bad, especially since i barely read any of the paragraphs
xbluedawn Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:24 am (UTC)
7/10. I'm kinda surprised tbh.
pdebevoise Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 07:32 am (UTC)
7/10
invitroblossoms Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
6/10

Better than I thought I'd do tbh. I'm horrible at these kinds of things.
yamcha Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 08:23 am (UTC)
4/10 BLEGH
run_atreyu Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 08:27 am (UTC)
2/10, haha
room_102 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 08:38 am (UTC)
I've been drinking. 3/10. I'm going to need a control sample.
finchroxxx Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 09:13 am (UTC)
8/10

I got 1 and 7 wrong. woot. Though ngl I guess at most of them, lmao.
violue Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 09:15 am (UTC)
8/10
evridis Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 10:21 am (UTC)
7/10
banabee Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
6/10
sviibwhapp 21st-May-2012 02:20 pm (UTC)
I don't get what makes this OT considering this is a literature post
foxtree Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
6/10
Hmmm.
huntertp3 Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
4/10.
mc_ranter Re: Kinda OT: Can you tell if the author is female or male?21st-May-2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
8/10
muzicnem 21st-May-2012 06:06 am (UTC)
From that last Hunger Games Tweets page, lol:
rivadavia 21st-May-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
this meme has made me h8 gene wilder a bit tbh
muzicnem 21st-May-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
IMPOSSIBLE, Gene is unhateable, fyi.

Edited at 2012-05-21 06:39 am (UTC)
lastingchances 21st-May-2012 04:12 pm (UTC)
same, i loathe it tbh
zminotaur 21st-May-2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
nooooo
secretivexhero 21st-May-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
lol I had a conversation about this with a friend.. she was like "I didnt kno tho". I was like.. really?
stellar_kar 21st-May-2012 10:01 am (UTC)
LOL MFTE and tbh I hardly paid attention to most of her bland descriptions when I was reading it
brucelynn 21st-May-2012 06:06 am (UTC)
This is a little unrelated to books

But some white people on tumblr were whining for the creators of Avatar to add a blonde to the show and I was like lol wot?


Anyways when I finally get my story published ( which I will ) and it becomes worthy of a film adaption ( it will mwahahaha) I hope I can have as much involvement in the adaptation as possible man , I would be so pressed if they white washed my story dammit!!!
msweetie913 21st-May-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
lol wot is a completely appropriate response to that, hahaha.
indignantindigo 21st-May-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
As a blonde person choosing to be blonde. The one thing the show doesn't need is a blonde. It's fine as is. Perfect even. They need to shut up.
garamsythe 21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
lol people really complained about that? because blonde people are totes underrepresented
degele 21st-May-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
lmfao ikr. literally every magazine cover at my job has a blonde haired white woman on it. please.
secretivexhero 21st-May-2012 06:32 am (UTC)
srsly, im blonde and im sick of blondes.
secretivexhero 21st-May-2012 06:32 am (UTC)
ugh I hope they dont do the same thing to korra. I will legit lose my shit if they cast some white chick as her
shining_starsxx 21st-May-2012 07:31 am (UTC)
I saw a post saying "Korra can't be black! She'd have to be a grape drank bender" rme.Smh
finchroxxx 21st-May-2012 09:16 am (UTC)
If you really want no white washing in your adaptions...


I would definitely say to hold out. Ask for veto over the casting, and if you don't get it walk. Or at the very least have it in the contract that x characters will be x race in the movie.

GRRM turn down tons of deals for Game of Thrones until he found a pitch that he liked. Don't jump on a movie deal if they are just throwing money at you.

also, Tumblr pisses me the fuck off with the racism all over it.
godramaclub 23rd-May-2012 01:57 pm (UTC)
Late but... I'm blond and I never even noticed there were no blond people. It's not really something I feel I need in yet another TV show. Who are these people?
asteriatic 21st-May-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
Yes! The power of literature!
msweetie913 21st-May-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
that last paragraph confused me. is the writer saying we should stop whitewashing, or that we should keep doing it because then we can trick people into not being assholes anymore?

i mean as much as it sucks... i'm not even white and i default to white if the characters in my books aren't described otherwise.
iamtheliquorr 21st-May-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
ikr

I was like... ok so do I just not say anything about a character's race/sexual orientation/whatever and then at the end of the book be all like O BTW SO AND SO IS BLACK AND SO AND SO IS GAY!
finchroxxx 21st-May-2012 09:19 am (UTC)
I read a book where they did that at the very end. Btw soandso is black AND gay. it was pretty glorious. Though, to be fair to the book, most of the characters in it were seen through avatars and not the "real character."
crazylike_afox 21st-May-2012 06:09 am (UTC)
Who knows how much J.K. Rowling’s revelation that Albus Dumbledore is gay, announced after the publication of the final Harry Potter book, has helped to combat homophobia?

Oh I'm sure if she had stated that Dumbledore was gay while the series was still going a shitstorm would have ensued. Not from the young readers so much as from their asshat parents, I think.
fruitchews 21st-May-2012 06:21 am (UTC)
Right? There would have been more of a fanatical uprising against the books because he was gay while the books were going on rather than after.
wtvoc 21st-May-2012 07:07 am (UTC)
when i told my kid that JKR said that about dumbledore, he asked me how come it wasn't in the books.

he was eight.

i told him people would probably have complained and he wanted to know why.

i really hate having to explain to my kid that this kind of thing REALLY MATTERS to some people. i asked him if he was bothered knowing that dumbledore was gay and he said something like, "nah, mom. why would it? so he loves men. why is that wrong?" :')

same with the stuff with rue. he saw my tribute guide book and was flipping through and goes "oh, i didn't know rue was that kind of brown (he refuses to say "black" because, and i quote, "most people who ~they say are black are brown, mom. it doesn't make sense. you shouldn't say 'black' if it isn't 'black'."), mom. i was picturing more like cindy at school." (cindy is from india)

and i told him that a lot of people were upset that she wasn't white and he goes, "didn't they read the book? that's dumb. why would people get mad about that? i bet the little rue girl feels bad about it."

guys. my kid is ten. if he gets it, why don't these other people get it. i mean, really.
abbreviated_kt 21st-May-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
Your kid is awesome. Thanks for doing your job as a parent and raising such an understanding individual.
hershelwalker 21st-May-2012 07:24 am (UTC)
feel free to be one of those parents that talks about their kids constantly. ur on my whitelist now gurl
jela_ow 21st-May-2012 10:08 am (UTC)
omg your kid is amazing! You are doing a wonderful job raising him! :)
milkradio 21st-May-2012 11:37 am (UTC)
You and your kid are both awesome people.
nene718 21st-May-2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
congrats on being a great parent
ashtraysoul 21st-May-2012 10:00 am (UTC)
or if she'd actually mentioned it in the books instead of leaving it just ambiguous enough for slash writers to pick up on it
piratesswoop 21st-May-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
Of course, not all readers are white or straight

o wow u don't say
roguewave3 21st-May-2012 06:13 am (UTC)
lol

It was so kind of her to point out what should be obvious.
pasteleyes 21st-May-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
I didn't read all of this, but did it say anything about what the reader thinks based on their race? I'm black and white and I imagine someone tan like myself all the time. When I write, I make my characters the same indistinguishable race.

I wish there wasn't such a big emphasis on skin color. I don't even classify myself as black, white, or both. I'm just me.
indignantindigo 21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
This. When I tend to read and it's not a culturally specific book then I just tend to project myself into my favorite characters. I don't really put enough effort into thinking of their race.
kalie_m 21st-May-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
It says at the end that if the person on the cover isn't white or it's reveled early in the story that the character isn't white, white people won't even bother reading it. They have to be tricked.
muzicnem 21st-May-2012 07:18 am (UTC)
white people won't even bother reading it

Not coming down on you personally since you're just paraphrasing but that's a pretty big fucking generalization.

Edited at 2012-05-21 07:18 am (UTC)
deadtree 21st-May-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
It seems to imply that all readers default to white for characters that aren't explicitly described as non -white. I always thought they'd go with their own race honestly.
berry_wish 21st-May-2012 06:26 am (UTC)
I have a bad habit of imagining characters as people that are like them irl, so even if I read the physical discription, I might imagine the character completely different. Like, I pictured Cinna as the guy from what not to wear. Clearly I was off
finchroxxx 21st-May-2012 09:24 am (UTC)
While I applaud you for making everyone the same indistinguishable race, most people will assume they are white and you'll probably end up with a white person on the cover tbh.
gagglefuck 21st-May-2012 10:55 am (UTC)
i always default to white without even realizing it and i'm not white at all btw. :/
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