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2:33 pm - 05/16/2012

Neil Cicierega vs Brony fanboys

aka the day that Neil called pathetic Bronies out on their bullshit

Neil Cicierega of Brodyquest and Potter Puppet Pals fame has recently been in a argument via Youtube, Reddit and Tumblr over the fact that male viewers (Bronies) have turned what is originally a children's cartoon into a channel for their disgusting memes and jokes most recently centered around molestation and rape jokes.



For those are you that don't know a Brony is, it is "A name typically given to the male viewers/fans (whether they are straight, gay, bisexual, etc.) of the My Little Pony show or franchise. They typically do not give in to the hype that males aren't allowed to enjoy things that may be intended for females." (urbandictionary.com)


The topic in question is about a MLP character called Princess Celestia that has been renamed 'Princess Molestia' as a rule 34 meme version of the character.


It all started on Reddit where somebody created a post about how apparently Neil hates Bronies

You will see from the following comments between the OP and Neil that Neil is very calm and reasonable in his comments;

Neil Cicierega: So what is the deal with Princess Molestia? Did the bronies take a show designed for little girls and turn it into another awful internet rape culture thing?

Reddit OP: No, they didn't, but I admire your ability to make assumptions.
Did you know that a community as large as the brony fanbase has multiple subsections? Why, I dare say it's as though multiple people enjoy the show.

Neil Cicierega: Yeah, I know it's the stuff of the internet. I just think it's particularly cruel of them to import that shit into something meant for young girls... 1 in 6 of whom will grow up to be victims of the thing these bros are lulzing it up over. It really illustrates how toughtlessly men will reappropriate anything and everything.

Some guy: But not all bronies are like that.

Neil Cicierega: you gotta call each other out on this kind of thing more often. That goes for all groups. Don't let your friends be dipshits!

Neil Cicierega: The show's designed to be a better alternative to the crap little girls are usually fed. So of course, grown men, who already have plenty of media marketed to them, come in and completely overshadow the intended audience, and litter it with the same tired humor and loutishness as every other male-oriented community. Something meant as an antidote to girls' usual gender normative entertainment has been turned into yet another sausage party.

Reddit OP: Yes, because the little girls who watch the show are effected by the actions of 4chan. Which is surprising, since even the majority of the adult brony fanbase isn't effected by the actions of 4chan.

Some brony: Most bronies (sadly not all) generally do try to warn you what you might see on their tumblr or something. So they really aren't doing anything to people who don't want to look at what they post. If you were offended by rape you most likely won't click on a link that goes to somewhere called Princess Molestia. I understand why you would find it weird that something Princess Molestia exists. She is, in her entirety, a rape joke.
I apologize for being such a dick.

Neil Cicierega: I didn't mention fetishes. Actually, I was talking about rape jokes. For a show about love and tolerance, you'd think Bronies would do more to speak out against fellow Bronies who engage in brazen rejections of sensitivity.


Neil recently commented on his tumblr site about the issue;

huhhh, apparently I shattered someone’s world by being annoyed at the Bronies for letting rape joke bullshit slide. I hold the radical opinion that you should not let your friends, or peers, be gross idiots, and by doing so I have CROSSED THE LINE.

This is Reddit, so a few of them call me a feminist in a pejorative sense. Nobody calls them on it.

Am I being too harsh with these kids when I say they should be harsher with their peers? Are they just afraid they’ll end up alone if they challenge anything?

In any case, this is basically the saddest day in history


There are several other reponses from Neil here, here and here replying to angry commenters



Sources are linked in the actual post

I thought it would be nice to have a discussion on the impact of rule 34 (as many pop culture figures have been parodied) as well as Bronies and My Little Pony in general

TYFYT ♥

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comalies 16th-May-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
QT post/OP imo.
indignantindigo 16th-May-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
God damn it this is beautiful.
rinygrin 16th-May-2012 05:23 am (UTC)
lmao this is a thing of beauty

I will say this, I'm torn on how it does break down who can openly watch this show for enjoyment (misogyny and what have you) but at the same time, the entitlement that bronies carry on for a program geared towards children is pretty shitty and don't even get me started on when there were death threats sent to the staff over Ditzy Doo/Derpy Hooves.

Edited at 2012-05-16 06:22 am (UTC)
shantayustay 16th-May-2012 05:24 am (UTC)
I don't want to understand this. :(
stupidsxyflndrs 16th-May-2012 05:25 am (UTC)
"I am sorry you’re in this situation. If you feel that people on the internet have created an environment in which you feel harassed, perhaps you should voice your displeasure with their actions publicly. I’m not sure if anyone’s ever done that before but maybe it’ll work??"

LOL
morgan90 16th-May-2012 05:25 am (UTC)
Bronies may be weird and infantile but they're mostly harmless. There are fandoms/cultures/etc. out there which are far more disturbing.
shantayustay 16th-May-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
50 Shades Stans...
pantless_deacon 16th-May-2012 06:49 am (UTC)
wtf is that icon? lol
littleonelychee 16th-May-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
50 shades doesn't include beastiality though...
one_hoopy_frood 16th-May-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
Rape culture perpetuated in the fandom for a cartoon show for girls isn't really harmless imo.
chiihiro 16th-May-2012 05:25 am (UTC)
One of my housemates is a brony. He and his girlfriend just get high and sit inside and watch MLP:FIM all day long. It's a sad existence.
chiihiro 16th-May-2012 05:26 am (UTC)
They make out while watching MLP, too. idgi
shantayustay 16th-May-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
:(
heroicattempt 16th-May-2012 05:31 am (UTC)
Ew.
squirrelsarerad 16th-May-2012 05:41 am (UTC)
lol omg
treegrowth 16th-May-2012 05:44 am (UTC)
oh my god that is so depressing.
cherrybombx 16th-May-2012 05:55 am (UTC)
burn that couch
50_reasons 16th-May-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
this guy reminds we of one of my co-workers :(
fruitchews 16th-May-2012 05:26 am (UTC)
OP is flawless, gawjuz, totally has icons by the balls, etc.


Also, bronies are ruining my gaming life! They are taking over ~guilds and groups and getting offended when I say their catchphrases link back to horse porn. It's totally true.
rally_pchan 16th-May-2012 05:44 am (UTC)
what catchphrases?
fruitchews 16th-May-2012 05:49 am (UTC)
20% cooler and whatever else. Like friendship is awesome and lots more. I just tend to ignore it until they try to name our third raiding group some brony name.
electric_mole_x 16th-May-2012 05:26 am (UTC)
Are they just afraid they’ll end up alone if they challenge anything?

So much truthiness. So many people roll over and tolerate crap they shouldn't because of this.
helloneworld 16th-May-2012 05:42 am (UTC)
THIS.

I FUCKING HATE THIS.

people need to stand up for a higher standard of behavior in their peers and friends.
hrhobo 16th-May-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
iawtc!

and although i previously thought i'd be brave enough to call someone on their shit irl, i found out recently that i could not :(

i need to toughen my ovaries. flex my fellopes.
tundrabeast 16th-May-2012 12:42 pm (UTC)
girl so do i LET'S MAKE A PACT

FROM NOW ON WE WILL EXCERCISE OUR NADS OF STEEL FOR JUSTICE
electric_mole_x 17th-May-2012 05:38 am (UTC)
lol it doesn't have to be over the top. I usually go with, "Oh please don't say/do that." or "C'mon now, there's no need for that. Why can't we just be cool?"

If they want to try and argue to death in favor of crap, then its usually just better to cut your losses as there is no arguing with idiots.
arisma ranting rant16th-May-2012 01:31 pm (UTC)
I just did this and it caused a giant shit storm. The day before yesterday I was at a friends house, being all they're getting a divorce supportive, and his obnoxious fucking room mate went on the rant she always ends up on, first how much black people suck, and then how much german people do. (Weird as fuck combo I admit, the only thing I can figure is she knows one of my closest friends is german?) The first couple of times I met her and she did it I stink eyed the fuck out of her and left quick.

I honestly think it's a compulsion, she did the exact same form of rant before a group of us went to Avengers (she'd never been to the meet up friends house before) and then again after the movie, before we all went to our cars, in the presence of random movie goers and kids. That time I told her that every word coming out of her mouth was awful and inappropriate and to shut it until she could be civilized, which seemed to work.

This last time we were in mid-moving project and she wanders in and starts on her rant while I twitch and try to hurry, and THEN moves directly into how awesome she is at 'raping' people in games and on internet forums. I had a spinning wheel in my mind with two options- punch her in the face or gtfo, so as soon as I could catch a gtfo I told her off and left.

Now everyone is FREAKING OUT, and omg is it ok if they're friends with her? Do they offend me? Is there anything they shouldn't say? Like it's over sensitive to not be down with that as a standard subject choice. I want to set them all on fire, tbh, but I don't regret finally really saying something.
whosebatman 16th-May-2012 05:27 am (UTC)
omg that video. I can't.
sanditar 16th-May-2012 05:28 am (UTC)
I'll be back, I need to google a lot of stuff from this and it's too late for me.
landwarinasia 16th-May-2012 05:29 am (UTC)
Yesssssss brilliant.
chuk_is_dazzled 16th-May-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
bronies are so weird
steel_lily09 16th-May-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
Way to go Neil. Love him.
heroicattempt 16th-May-2012 05:32 am (UTC)
indignantindigo 16th-May-2012 05:38 am (UTC)
dsfkhghkgksj This is giving me Nam-esque flashbacks to working anime cons.
heroicattempt 16th-May-2012 05:56 am (UTC)
DED.
cloudy_aozora 16th-May-2012 05:59 am (UTC)
This is so awkward. It reminds me of every bad student presentation I had to sit through in school.
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