ONTD

12:29 am - 05/09/2012

The Voice of Misogyny

After Tony performed "99 Problems" on last night's episode, the judges were asked for their responses. Christina, who has in the past criticized Tony for being one-dimensional (and also knows him personally, as they were on The Mickey Mouse Club together), told him he had a great voice and then added, "Your beautiful wife and your daughter, and family are here tonight, and I just thought, you know, the lyrical connotation was a little derogatory towards women...but all in all it was good fun."

Let's pause here: Note how restrained that statement is. The song relies heavily on misogynist language, but Christina didn't even spend her entire critique talking about that—she complimented Tony on the performance and gave a barely passing mention of the fact that the lyrics are problematic, yet it still earned her the misogynist wrath of Tony's coach, Adam.



During its first season, I was a huge fan of The Voice, a singing competition on NBC currently in season two. The talent level on the show last year was just ridiculous and introduced me to one of my favorite artists, Dia Frampton. This year, the competition has been a bit on the underwhelming side, but I continued to watch in hopes that someone would begin to stand out, and thankfully that happened—Juliet Simms, the only woman among the four finalists, is a true star. She's an electric performer with a voice that can tell a story all by itself.

The fact that she's the only woman in the finals on a show where Christina Aguilera is the only woman on the judges' panel is particularly worth noting after a disgusting exchange on Monday night's episode when the finalists performed one more time in an attempt to win the competition.

(For those who don't watch the show, each of the four celebrity judges picks a team of singers which is slowly whittled down to one. The four finalists then compete in a grand finale to see which of the contestants—and judges—wins.)

Maroon 5 lead singer Adam Levine's finalist, Tony Lucca, who has to date made his way through the competition by way of a shortcut through Gimmick Avenue (and an assist from his coach, who gave him a higher rating than his semi-final female opponent Katrina Parker, because he enjoyed the "bromance" they had, allowing Tony to advance despite the fact that America voted 52-48 for Katrina), performed his last song, and the choice was a country-tinged cover of Jay-Z's "99 Problems," a song in which the hook is the line "If you're havin' girl problems, I feel bad for you son / I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one."

After Tony performed "99 Problems" on last night's episode, the judges were asked for their responses. Christina, who has in the past criticized Tony for being one-dimensional (and also knows him personally, as they were on The Mickey Mouse Club together), told him he had a great voice and then added, "Your beautiful wife and your daughter, and family are here tonight, and I just thought, you know, the lyrical connotation was a little derogatory towards women...but all in all it was good fun."

Let's pause here: Note how restrained that statement is. The song relies heavily on misogynist language, but Christina didn't even spend her entire critique talking about that—she complimented Tony on the performance and gave a barely passing mention of the fact that the lyrics are problematic, yet it still earned her the misogynist wrath of Tony's coach, Adam.

When it came time for his critique, Adam responded with, "First of all, just to clarify so you all know, the intent behind this song, we talked about this for hours, Tony and I, and you know, the ___ ain't one is life getting' at you, things bringing you down, you know, we're not referring to women, we're referring to everything."

Christina said, "It says 'if you're having girl problems,' so it IS a girl."

Adam responded by talking over her and saying in an extremely condescending tone, "It's called a metaphor," a line that was met with nauseating, wild applause from the studio audience, at which point Adam took off his flannel shirt to reveal a "Team Xtina" t-shirt underneath—thus obliging Christina to applaud after he'd insulted her, or risk losing as though she doesn't support her remaining team member, who, of course, is Tony's competitor and had yet to perform his solo number.

There is so much vile shit to unpack in this that it's tough to even know where to start.

First, Christina is the only woman on this four-judge panel, and she was the only one to even make the most passing mention of the problematic and misogynist lyrics—and when she did so, it was in the least aggressive way she possibly could have, yet her comments were still met with MORE misogyny. She was shouted down, talked to like she was clueless and hysterically overreacting, and met with derisive and dismissive words simply for pointing out the misogynist lyrics . Basically, she got treated like shit for ruining the fun misogyny party for all the men! It's so much more fun when there aren't women around to complain, amirite?! (Or men, but men who complain about that kind of shit are either totally gay or basically women anyway, for sure).

Adam, meanwhile, came prepared. Several websites have reported that an even more severe argument broke out between Adam and Christina during rehearsals for Monday night's show, with multiple but unconfirmed reports that Adam called her a "cunt," in the process. I'm somehow inclined to think there's probably quite a bit of truth to that after seeing last night's show—especially since he had that "Team Xtina" tee at the ready, if she challenged him on-air.

Adam's claim that the line "99 problems but a bitch ain't one" is about "life getting at you," is a total non-starter, metaphor or not (spoiler alert: not!). Let's say it really is just a metaphor—which is an awfully generous interpretation—it is still a problem. If you're applauding a song that uses misogynist language to talk about life being tough, using the word "bitch" as a placeholder for various woes is STILL misogynist! "Life's a bitch" still relies on anti-woman sentiment.

(See also: Using the feminine as a symbol for "mayhem.")

And rather than perhaps admit that Christina might have had a point worth hearing, Adam responded aggressively with more misogyny toward her, as misogynists are apt to do when challenged—so challenged by even the slightest, most non-aggressive hint that they might be contributing to a serious problem.

He was ready for this exact confrontation (again: "Team Xtina" shirt at the ready), and was prepared to ensure that, in a space where defending a misogynist song would receive huge applause, he would also be able to deflect any meaningful criticism. Christina found herself in that spot that has been oft discussed here—she could continue to defend acknowledging the problematic aspects of the song and reject Adam's dismissive response to her and get accused of being a "bitch" and ruining the show (and even without continuing on, she was still accused of those things in recaps this morning), or she could let it go, stay silent on it for the remainder of the night, and allow the show to continue as if nothing had happened. That's the untenable position she found herself in—the terrible bargain.

This exchange on the show last night is a perfect example of the problems with a culture so steeped in misogyny—the purveyors of it are the ones who receive applause. Those who challenge it are shouted down with more misogyny as though their concerns are the result of hypersensitivity, as though there can be no meaningful discussion to be seriously had about how misogynist language is harmful to both women AND men, because they can't even be bothered to recognize that there is any kind of problem inherent in that language to begin with.

I appreciate what Christina Aguilera does on this show every night, because this is really just the obvious, out-in-the-open breaking point of a season full of more underhanded, insidious misogyny that has been directed at her. It was especially nice to see her with her finalist, opera singer Chris Mann, onstage after his "thank you" performance to her. She got up out of her chair, embraced him, joined him on stage and told the audience, "This is a real man. A real man respects women."

While noting the problem with "real" language, it was a nice, and honestly touching, moment, to see her there after having been the target of such an ugly display so soon before, standing alongside a man whom she truly seems to like, respect, and care for, and to see him return that tenfold as he stood alongside a woman he genuinely respects, and likes, and cares for.

The whole thing—the audience's reaction not only to the performance itself, but to Adam's attacks on Christina afterward, reminded me so hard that if there is one thing America seems to love so dearly, it's men who openly hate women.

I'll say this—I've got plenty of problems in my life. Maybe 99. Maybe more. Maybe fewer. But I do know that if Tony Lucca and Adam Levine win tonight—finding time to watch The Voice next season sure as fuck isn't going to be one of them anymore.



A really interesting read. And an awesome explanation as to why people are upset with Adam Levine and Tona, and why the reaction to what Christina said is problematic.

SOURCE
Page 1 of 8
<<[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] >>
welurklate 9th-May-2012 04:47 am (UTC)
Good post, read it earlier. Fuck Adam this season, tbh.

Edited at 2012-05-09 04:47 am (UTC)
ian_michael89 9th-May-2012 04:48 am (UTC)
Fuck Adam every season. He is a douche.
marmar627 9th-May-2012 04:49 am (UTC)
Seriously. I never got the appeal, vocally, physically or personality-wise.
arizonagal 9th-May-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
this. fuck the guy in general. seems like a pretentious douchenozzle.
hotness3ya 9th-May-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
Songs about jane made me a fan. The voice made me dislike him greatly.
laurie_springs 9th-May-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
mte
lillylilacs 9th-May-2012 06:37 am (UTC)
ia, and he is the weakest link on the show imo
ljubavirakija 9th-May-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
IA. After this season, I can't look at him in the same light
solitune 9th-May-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
SERIOUSLY. I was already losing interest in him since Maroon 5's last album blew so hard, but this season really made me despise him.
annakovsky 9th-May-2012 05:08 am (UTC)
He has been 100% the worst all season, and this last stuff is unforgivable. I hope he gets fired.
ian_michael89 9th-May-2012 04:47 am (UTC)
Ugh can we just not have any more The Voice posts?

I have a headache.
peachie_ego 9th-May-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
IKR...it's the same shit over and over. Like ok flop off somewhere else now please.
ian_michael89 9th-May-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
This 24 hour news feels like its been going on for weeks.
jesusbitches 9th-May-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
Now let the pc and fauxmenist responses begin. Christina has a history of being hateful towards other females in the industry throughout her entire career. Maybe somebody should write an article about that.

Edited at 2012-05-09 04:51 am (UTC)
littlexlauren 9th-May-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
Love this comment so much.
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
You would. Are you going to delete this comment too?
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
I'm not here to dwell on the past. Christina has had nothing but kind words lately for Britney, Gaga, other pop stars.
katiexxpie 9th-May-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
I didn't know that tbh. The only thing I remember is something about her saying Britney only kissed Madonna for attention or something
grande_latte 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
You tell them gurrl
cickiz 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
haha fauxmenist.
ides_of_smarch 9th-May-2012 04:56 am (UTC)
you seem to know all about it, so go ahead.
abcdefuckgh 9th-May-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
amen.
solitune 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
Nice try. The article was talking about ONE EPISODE of The Voice, not Christina and Adam's whole damn lives. And just because she's said offensive things in the past, that doesn't negate the fact that she was right to call Team Adam out on their misogyny.
warsawed 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
So Christina deserves all this misogyny bc she called Kelly Osborne fat 10 years ago?
tammyinlalaland 9th-May-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
Yeah but there are those of us offended when Obama used it as a campaign song,..

As for Christina, she never claimed to be prefect and never attacked him just pointed it that it may not be appropriate song choice, which it is not
burbuja677 9th-May-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
ikr
laurie_springs 9th-May-2012 05:02 am (UTC)
I don't think there is a problem with taking issue with what Adam and Tony did while still disliking her for her past actions tbh.
maidenhell 9th-May-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
Yes. You can be a feminist without excusing the behaviour of a fellow female.
flamed65 9th-May-2012 05:09 am (UTC)
ew you would like Thalia

*looks for Paulina icon*
deethy 9th-May-2012 05:18 am (UTC)
ummmmmmmmmmmmm do you realize that doesn't make what she said any less valid?? there's also a diff between xtina being catty and a a man using a song with a misogynistic slur

looks like 2 me you're the one who doesn't understand feminism
kiki3291 9th-May-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
Ugh, this argument.

I mean I get it, but this article is talking about this one incident. If that's the way it's going to be we might as well have an article highlighting how douchey Adam has been in the past. Far more times than Xtina being hateful imo.

kimberwyn 9th-May-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
Lol yeah, and someone even post an article where she listed 99 Problems as one of her favorite songs. So apparently it only bothers her when it's directed at her...
bellwetherr 9th-May-2012 05:27 am (UTC)
Or maybe people can mature and grow and move on? How about that? Dredging up all the past shit that's been said has nothing to do with what happened on the show.
prophecy_grl 9th-May-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
Are you fucking kidding me right now? First off, whatever she's said or done in the past holds no bearing on this comment, because any way you look at it the song is straight up misogynistic. Even if she hates women that doesn't change the fact that what she's saying is right.

Secondly, if you're seriously equating a woman being an asshole to other women with two men furthering the misogynistic treatment of women in general while on live television then you're seriously misinformed about how our society works because they are leagues apart.

That so many people on here agree with you is frightening.
baboona 9th-May-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
Christina's remarks about other female artists did not pertain whatsoever to their genders so that is ENTIRELY irrelevant. She's been critical of male artists too, but ofc you won't mention that.
crazyfruitlady 9th-May-2012 05:56 am (UTC)
First of all, half of that never happened. Secondly, being hateful towards a couple of individuals does not make someone a misogynist.
lillylilacs 9th-May-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
I understand what you're saying, but she may have grown and changed. Most of those comments are from ~10ish years ago. I am sure when I am in my 30s I won't want to be still held accountable for things I said when I was in my late teens and early twenties.
pantless_deacon 9th-May-2012 07:05 am (UTC)
No she doesn't.

She has a history of rumors.

And most of the women who HAVE said things have said things themselves about other females and can't be trusted.

I bet you can't even name 8 females who ~allegedly~ said bad things about her.
secura 9th-May-2012 09:58 am (UTC)
dumb
flaca 9th-May-2012 10:02 am (UTC)
lmao at you and all the idiots in the thread patting you on the back
nicolaroberts 9th-May-2012 10:34 am (UTC)
that doesn't give adam levine a free pass to be misogynistic to her or change the fact that he's in a privileged position, so what's your point?
woollymammoth 9th-May-2012 01:11 pm (UTC)
She also once said that she loves 99 Problems.
railway 9th-May-2012 01:46 pm (UTC)
Kinda like how if you're not a virgin, you can't be raped! Right? RIGHT?





... fuck you.
housebrownie 9th-May-2012 01:50 pm (UTC)
oh please...two of my close friends, both gay males, that worked with her on a project said she was very difficult with them, but I don't think that makes her homophobic.
cokedupwhore 9th-May-2012 02:50 pm (UTC)
Lmao, you Britney fans are just going to remain bitter all your lives huh? Even Britney herself has moved on. You should do the same.
hams5 9th-May-2012 03:34 pm (UTC)
lol at you still living in the past.
fornikate 9th-May-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
u tried
hotness3ya 9th-May-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
Hey yeah op!!!



Such a great read imo. And this is Adam this whole season

ronnie_luvs_u 10th-May-2012 12:28 am (UTC)
omg hey!! I went to bed and just found this after work! Thanks for your support! <3
chll51 9th-May-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
love this article :D word to everything. adam levin is and will always be a douche douche in my eyes after this season.
katiexxpie 9th-May-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
I need furonda to tell me how to feel about this
helders 9th-May-2012 05:18 am (UTC)
lol
msloserrific 9th-May-2012 02:34 pm (UTC)
whatever happened to her?
lloydsgurl 9th-May-2012 04:51 am (UTC)
the only good thing to come out of that song?



its memes
fashionbabylon 9th-May-2012 05:06 am (UTC)
lol love it
lloydsgurl 9th-May-2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
that's the mark of a good meme tbh
glass_houses 9th-May-2012 03:37 pm (UTC)
lol good show
hearts_on_safe 9th-May-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
ew adam levine

that's all
kofo4 9th-May-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
i haven't been watching this season but did he really direct 99 problems at Christina? Cause that's not cool tbh.
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
I mean, he didn't out and out say it, but based on his previous shady performances that seemed to be directed at her and the fact that Adam busted out his Team Xtina shirt after the performance, it would appear to be shade at her.
tammyinlalaland 9th-May-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
I don't think so but it sounds like she mentioned her issues with it prior to the show
warsawed 9th-May-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
he indirectly did
ides_of_smarch 9th-May-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
if he didn't direct it towards her, he wouldn't have worn a team xtina shirt ahead of time or wanted tony to wear one too (which was shot down by the producers)
laurie_springs 9th-May-2012 05:02 am (UTC)
Considering he did the Britney song too most likely.
_underwhelmed 9th-May-2012 05:08 am (UTC)
sounds bitter
evilgmbethy 9th-May-2012 09:58 am (UTC)
and the other song he did since her criticism was called "How You Like Me Now?" which could also have been directed at her. idk he and Adam were riding her criticism the entire rest of the show because it was the only thing that made him interesting.
bibbysbaby 9th-May-2012 06:00 am (UTC)
timeline breakdown for you

Tony performs - Christina calls him one dimensional (which he is) and stresses to the public that she hopes celebrity connections and support doesn't sway their opinions because J Timberlake tweeted his support for Tony earlier
Tony performs Hit me Baby One More Time - Christina claps and compliments him saying we should get Britney on stage and have a real MMC reunion
Tony performs How You Like Me Now - Christina says Adam and Tony should form a Britney cover band.
Christina tries to reason with Adam and tells him not to overlook another contestant just because he's friends with Tony and that the other contestant is a star
Tony performs 99 problems - Christina calls it derogatory and Adam reveals he is wearing a team xtina shirt
Tony reveals Adam also wanted him to wear a team xtina shirt for the performance
Christina leaves her chair during the Adam/Tony duet performance

if you ask my opinion Tony and Adam have been subtly shading Christina every since she called him one dimensional. they chose a song from her # 1 rival to get under her skin and antagonize her. they then chose a song with the lyrics of how you like me now to shove it in her face. and the cherry on top was the premeditation of the team xtina shirts when they were performing 99 problems. to me, the message they were sending was that Christina was a bitch to him and it wasn't a problem for him because he was going to win anyway.

I may be looking way too much into this, but I firmly believe Tony and Adam are being catty little bitches and their actions have been done to get under her skin and bate her into things. They are both dicks that deserve each other.

Team xtina
clairelittleton 9th-May-2012 10:51 am (UTC)
people are assuming. that's all any of this shit is.
ljubavirakija 9th-May-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
Do you all think XTina will be back for season 3? After all this shade, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't return
hotness3ya 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
I would be surprised if any of the coaches, except for Blake returned tbh. But I am hoping that they will minus adam of course.
flamed65 9th-May-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
She's integral to the show. You bet NBC is going to do whatever they can to keep her. I really hope she leaves and focuses on her new album though, I NEED NEW MUSIC.
ides_of_smarch 9th-May-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
MTE
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
All of this
starbucks_patch 9th-May-2012 05:11 am (UTC)
agreed, Bionic was so much better than her people allowed it to be because of Burlesque and this show, and i honestly want a Bionic 2.0
hams5 9th-May-2012 03:33 pm (UTC)
Yes, i want her music.

laurie_springs 9th-May-2012 05:03 am (UTC)
They should kick Adam off tbh. He sabotaged most of his contestants and strung out this "feud".
kimberwyn 9th-May-2012 05:22 am (UTC)
ummm $$$
bibbysbaby 9th-May-2012 06:01 am (UTC)
I believe that all 4 judges have already signed on for season 3
lillylilacs 9th-May-2012 06:43 am (UTC)
The only reason she wouldn't be coming back is because she chose not to. This drama is bringing ratings that NBC desperately needs they would never let her go by choice.
mari_lyn00 9th-May-2012 07:18 am (UTC)
It wouldn't surprise me and I wouldn't blame her. It also wouldn't surprise me if she stayed but somehow 'magically' Adam leaves.
withoutyoursmil 9th-May-2012 12:50 pm (UTC)
if i were her, i wouldn't. but maybe adam should just be replaced
maitressefleche 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
i didn't read but i agree
sastra_fuss 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
whatever, this drama is fake
bostongirl2003 9th-May-2012 05:36 am (UTC)
it does seem a little ridiculous to have had this huge "feud" that started over nothing serious and lasted the entire season.
lleno_d_alegria 9th-May-2012 10:04 am (UTC)
It didn't last the entire season though. The Tony thing was in the latter half of the season. Either way, I don't think it's forced. Xtina isn't that good of an actress.
violue 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
hit me
hotness3ya 9th-May-2012 04:56 am (UTC)
with your best shot
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
baby one more time
esoteriq 9th-May-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
you can't hurt me
stormer1_1 9th-May-2012 05:09 am (UTC)
like a man
xzackb 9th-May-2012 05:14 am (UTC)
Hard, make me lose my (Hah Hah)
Can you keep up?
Baby boy, make me lose my breath
tammyinlalaland 9th-May-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
A-FUCKING-MEN TO EVERY WORD OF THIS

Oh Adam stopping being a fucking sexist d-bag
abcdefuckgh 9th-May-2012 04:55 am (UTC)
Adam and Tony were out of line and the constant song choices directed at Christina were extremely annoying, but she isn’t Mother Teresa. She is rude and has this insufferable diva persona, not just talking about on the show, she has a history of it, just ask Mary J. Blige. I’m not going to feel bad for her just because she is a woman. I don’t believe in women praising other women when they act that way.
lumosofmylife 9th-May-2012 04:56 am (UTC)
Lol, why do people keep citing this Mary J Blige shit with no proof?
abcdefuckgh 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
one_hoopy_frood 9th-May-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
Her being rude doesn't negate the fact that most of the criticisms against her are rooted in misogyny, which is not acceptable no matter how a woman acts.
warsawed 9th-May-2012 04:59 am (UTC)
I don't get why women have to be "Mother Theresa" to be deserving of basic human respect
lauridsen09 9th-May-2012 05:00 am (UTC)
So you're saying that Christina being rude means she deserves all the misogyny? Ok then.
jiyeung 9th-May-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
but she isn’t Mother Teresa


so woman has to be mother teresa and kiss a white male's ass to be not treated with misogyny and called bitch, cunt, ect? are you fucking kidding me?
kimberwyn 9th-May-2012 05:29 am (UTC)
Yep, maybe they didn't go about it the right way, but let's not act like she doesn't bring most of the flack she gets on herself.
sunoftheskye 9th-May-2012 05:33 am (UTC)
yeah, mary j. blige later retracted her statement and even invited christina to sing at one of her charity benefits. but lol @ you bringing up shit that allegedly happened in 1999 when she was 18 years old.
pantless_deacon 9th-May-2012 07:12 am (UTC)
Now post about how Mary later claimed it never happened and then just recently invited Christina to sing at one of her events. Do it. Post it.

Mary was obviously either on something, or misread the gesture and her and Christina are now cool. Now name other people and cite proof.
Page 1 of 8
<<[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] >>
This page was loaded May 23rd 2013, 2:11 am GMT.