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1:30 pm - 05/04/2012

Game of Thrones' Maisie Williams: There's More Killing and Madness in Arya's Future



Arya has acquired a taste for killing.

In the latest episode of Game of Thrones (Sundays, 9/8c, HBO), the youngest Stark daughter realizes that just by uttering a name, she can condemn a person to death at the hands of Jaqen H'ghar, a mysterious man who claims he owes her three deaths to repay her for saving his and two others' lives. And although this proxy murder is shocking, it's not the first time Arya has taken a life. Last season, the pint-sized girl impaled a stable boy with her sword in self-defense. The act serves as a rite of passage and a gateway for kills to come.

"I find it really hard to relate to Arya because I can't even imagine killing someone, but I think that first kill is completely lost on her now," Maisie Williams, who plays Arya, tells TVGuide.com. "Although that was a huge deal at the time, that's just a tiny little piece of this whole madness that's kind of going on in her life at the moment, and I think there's more to come. She definitely feels that's kind of the first of something, and when she realizes she's capable of doing that, I think it almost scares her a bit, but gives her more confidence because she can stand up for herself."


Arya has had to grow up fast ever since witnessing her father's beheading and then fleeing King's Landing disguised as a boy traveling with recruits for the Night's Watch. "She's still not 100 percent confident with where she's at and who she can trust," Williams says. "She's always going to be a bit cautious about things like that because she's had some people very close to her ripped away. I think it has definitely made her mature an awful lot; She's not just this kind of fun-loving kid anymore. She's cheeky and she hasn't lost that kind of feistiness about her, but she's a little more reserved."

How does Arya view Jaqen (Tom Wlashchiha) once she realizes that he's killed a person by her command?
Maisie Williams:
When Jaqen tells her that he's going to grant her three kills, she kind of has to trust him then. When she meets these new people who are kind of nice to her and she can trust even the slightest bit, I think she's then worried to lose them. She's trying to not get too close to him, because she's worried that he's doing this very dangerous thing. She's not sure what to make of him, but he's then got this almost power over her. When she realizes that he really means business, and that he does these kills in a way that it looks like it was an accident, she then gets even more nervous that he's going to be taken away from her.

Was it hard to kind of get into that mind-set to be that murderous, obsessive girl who recites this hit list of people she wants to kill?
Williams:
No when we did that scene it was a rain scene so we had the rain machine, and it was like a nighttime thing so I could really get into my own world and get into that weird kind of mind-set she has. I think because that is probably one of the most iconic parts in Arya's story, I was really worried in how it was going to go. b o w

How would you describe Arya's relationship with Gendry (Joe Dempsie), the blacksmith's apprentice who just also happens to be one of King Robert's bastards?
Williams:
When he first kind of helps her out in the first season, I think she thinks there's something a little bit fishy going that he may have sussed out something. When she does find out that he knows she's really a girl, she realizes he has known for a while. Throughout the course of the second season, she learns to trust him and sort of gets on even ground with him and tells him things. Since he kind of knows who she is, she almost has to trust him a little bit.

Do you think that she views him as she would one of her older brothers? mb an older brother she wants to fuq
Williams: Because she's lost her father figure, all of her family, and she gets her sword Needle taken away from her as well, he's almost like a role model to her at times. When things get tough, he's a bit like a brother to her. I think she misses just being able to just forget about everything and go and have a bit of fun. He kind of reminds her of back at home. 

How does Arya feel after Yoren (Francis Magee) is killed, because once again, he's another father figure who's been taken from her?
Williams:
There's that scene when Yoren shares a really deep story with Arya, and it's kind of that one time where she can let loose and just pretend to be this kid that doesn't care about anything again, and then the attack comes, and she's completely helpless. From the big distance she sees this guy who took her under his wing taken away from her. That then really kind of destroys Arya and that is probably the final twig into kind of madness I'd say. It's kind of then it just goes downhill, and she can't trust anyone. I think she's almost a bit kind of psychotic with Gendry and Hot Pie. They're going to be pulled away from her any moment, and she can kind of see that coming, and I think it's deep. She's got it into her head that everyone's going to die around her.

Is there anyone on the cast that you really look up to and enjoyed working with?
Williams: I have a lot of scenes to do with Charles Dance [who plays Tywin Lannister], and he was lovely and really nice to me and made sure I was okay all the time. I was really thankful because most of our scenes are kind of one-on-one... He kind of commands this respect when he walks in a room. I really do admire him and I think it's amazing that kind of presence he has.

And what about your peers? I heard that Ben Hawkey who plays Hot Pie, was constantly either doing impressions or singing or other silly things.
Williams:
Either he or Eros [Vlahos], one of them bought a ukulele. That was the most annoying thing ever. They took it everywhere with them and would just sing. But any weekend that we were still in Belfast, but not doing anything we'd always go out. We went ice skating. We were going to do golf, but it was raining so we didn't do it, but we did bowling as well.

We can see that you actually cut your hair in real life to play Arya disguised as a boy. Why did you decide to cut it instead of wear a wig?
Williams:
When I was 10 cut off my hair, randomly really, really short, and I really liked it, but I started growing it again two years ago. It was just past my shoulders, and I knew the question was going to be asked if I was going to have my hair cut or not when I heard the second season was greenlit. My immediate reaction was, "No way!" because I've been growing it for so long and just really wanted to get it there. But then a lot of people get really attached to their hair, and I was just thinking, "It is only hair." It feels an awful lot thicker when I have it cut short, and then when it gets longer it's kind a bit scraggly anyway, so it's probably the best thing.

At least this way you don't have to deal with wigs.
Williams:
That was so itchy in the first season. I can definitely tell the difference between the last episode of the first season, and that first returning scene of the second season. I think it looks better with my own hair.

So now that there's one season under your belt, are fans recognizing you more?
Williams:
Most commonly I've been recognized from people who aren't actually from England. They're just over here on holiday or something, and I find that really funny. I remember I was in KFC, a fast food restaurant over here, and there was a man who'd just come over from Canada and he had been watching Game of Thrones on the airplane over.

I've also heard people say, "I want to adopt Arya." Is that a reaction you've heard before?
Williams:
How funny! I think a lot of people on Twitter say, "Oh you're really cute. I want to adopt you," and things like that, yeah.

A lot of fans loved it also when you, Sophie Turner and Isaac Hempstead-Wright sang the Game of Thrones theme song for the first season DVD commentary. Did you have a lot of fun doing that?
Williams:
Yeah, we were so hyper that we just thought it would be funny, and only later realized everyone was going to see it. We forgot about that, and then it came out. It's really embarrassing, because a lot of people keep posting it on my Twitter, and then friends at school who also have Twitter find it, and then put it on Facebook. But it's nice that people can see that kind of side of you though, that we're not just these roles, that we are people too, and we do stupid things like that.

Sourcery

<3333


I don't think her Thronecast appearance was posted to ONTD yet. (For shame, tbh!)

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ljubavirakija 4th-May-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
Arya's storyline has been my favorite. Hands down.

It's one of the reasons I want to read the books
bro_mance 4th-May-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
in the second book her storyline and Tyrion were my favorite, but after the book progressed I got more interested in others storylines, but Arya is still one of my fav. characters
lathwen1 4th-May-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
It's the reason why I keep reading tbh.
heulog 4th-May-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
Tumblr is near to making my hate Arya/Gendry. :(

I hate that place.
remix_sakura 4th-May-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
Why the hate? Just due to overexposure?
aquaeous_cloud 4th-May-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
welcome to my world.

Tumblr ruins everything. A crazy tumblr "famous" person jumped on the arya/gendry bandwaggon lately and now I'm 99% disliking Arya/Gendry(TV).

Joe's abs woke the tumblr!crazies who didn't give a shit about GoT before Sunday's episode. Still love you Joe.
flinkkamingo3 4th-May-2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
Lol who is the tumblr famous person?
rainbowren 4th-May-2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
Who's this Tumblr "famous" person if I may ask?
shahoney 4th-May-2012 07:34 pm (UTC)
Who's the tumblr famous person?
forevernb 4th-May-2012 08:57 pm (UTC)
Whos the tumblr famous person? [4]
londonshowers 4th-May-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
lmao i think i know who you're talking about

*runs to check their tumblr

ah no it wasn't :c
ten_of_swords 4th-May-2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
I stopped following all the GoT tumblrs I used to, too much fucking fangirl squeeing and arguing over whose ship is better.

Edited at 2012-05-04 06:23 pm (UTC)
lathwen1 4th-May-2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
too much of it?
shahoney 4th-May-2012 07:33 pm (UTC)
I already made two tumblr posts the past 3 weeks about how the "bandwagon shippers" are ruining the GENDRYA pairing for me. Ugh, I especially hate the idiots who mischaracterize Arya because all they care about is Joe Dempsie.

FUCK.

I still ship them as a potential future couple (if GRRM ever decides to NOT kill either of them before they reunite), but I don't even bother going on the tags anymore. Stupid "bandwagon shippers" ruin everything.
joaniemaloney 4th-May-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
Her storyline is going to get so intense.
her chapters are my fav. I wonder if they'll change the 2nd name that she calls on for Jaqen in Harrenhal.
nuravecunt 4th-May-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
Arya has the best chapters. I never get bored during them. Wish I could say the same for others...
fauxkaren 4th-May-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
I liked her chapters in ACOK. But idk. I am just not interested in her post-ASOS story.
bro_mance 4th-May-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
mte
goofusgallant 4th-May-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
same.
ten_of_swords 4th-May-2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
I'm interested it's just soooo depressing. Like I just want to reach into the pages and hug her. GRRM give the little girl a break.
lydzi 4th-May-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
It got back to a better place during ADWD for me though. I had some hope because she felt more calm and at peace with herself. Well considering she is not herself anymore it doesn't mean that much I guess *le sigh*.
lathwen1 4th-May-2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
ita
ljubavirakija 4th-May-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
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:'[

I miss their father-daughter relationship.
girl_fusion 4th-May-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
Ditto. :'(
leitao 4th-May-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
IKR, Ned was one of the very few genuinely sweet fatherly-fathers in the series. His scenes with Arya were always qt.
fauxkaren 4th-May-2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
Ned was not a good politician but he was a really good dad and husband. :(

WHY ARE MY BB STARKS SO TRAGIC?
apple_fries 4th-May-2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
srsly =[
lathwen1 4th-May-2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
:(
ellaellaeheheh 4th-May-2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
I JUST MISS NED. ALL MY CRYES.
jessi_cola 4th-May-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
:(
heartxbroadcast 4th-May-2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
:'((((((((
freak1sh_ndazed 4th-May-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
Me too :(
aphrodite5239 5th-May-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
ita :(((
cosnicgirl 4th-May-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
I like her depiction in the show except she was treated horribly while in Gregor's camp. I guess due to budget they couldn't cast those characters.

Edited at 2012-05-04 05:52 pm (UTC)
kurtvonnegut 4th-May-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
idg shipping tv show gendry/arya. they are so far apart in age that it grosses me out. plus arya doesn't even seem like a sexual being, she's a child tbh. i know in the books stuff happens but ugh i hate shippers in general ruining every relationship with their psychoness
heulog 4th-May-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
Tell me about it. There's nothing really telling in the book about Arya/Gendry anyway, just a few moments that kind of make you pause and go "hmm...". They're clearly avoiding it in the show (gratuitous topless shots of Joe Dempsey aside), but the shippers really have gotten psychotic. :/
nuravecunt 4th-May-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
these are probably the same people who shipped Joffrey and Sansa during Season 1 tbh
fauxkaren 4th-May-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
Nothing really happens in the books either, tbh.
anolinde 4th-May-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
I think most people future ship them.
0cclumency 4th-May-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
iawtc
breaktheice89 4th-May-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
and idg why people seem so offended by people shipping them. no one wants to see them together now, but what would be so weird about a relationship between them in the future?
soul_amazinn 4th-May-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
Most people who ship them don't ship in a sexual way.
I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand this.
They have a friendship. That is all it is.
It's never implied that it will ever be sexual in the books or the show.
What does liking a friendship have to do with their ages? IDK WHY people are so creeped out by this ship.
aquaeous_cloud 4th-May-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
This. This. This. A thousand times this comment.
prdarkstar 4th-May-2012 06:14 pm (UTC)
I have never seen anyone say they want these two to have a physical relationship of any kind right now. Even in fanfics that I have read, if it happens it is always when they are both older.

As even Joe himself stated in an interview, the books do hint at a potential future romance which isn't crazy considering GRRM was planning to do a 5 year time jump. People see that potential in their relationship and hope it will come true later on in time. What is the problem?

Unless shippers are forcing you to view the relationship the same way they do, I fail to see how they are ruining anything.
ten_of_swords 4th-May-2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I know. In the books she's like 10-11 and in the series I imagine 12-13. Gendry's 17-18 in the series, I think. Just ew x million.
shahoney 4th-May-2012 07:37 pm (UTC)
It's established in the TV series that Gendry, Robb, and Jon are AT MOST 18 (that means they're not above 18), while Arya is at least 12 by Season 2.
aphrodite5239 5th-May-2012 01:54 am (UTC)
i ship gendry with me tbh
besides nothing happens between them in the books. i really do hope they'd meet in the future and get together though
goofusgallant 4th-May-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
"mb an older brother she wants to fuq"

LOL
fauxkaren 4th-May-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
Arya's story isn't one of my personal favorites overall, but it is one of my favorites in ACOK.

Also LOL @ people who watch the show and think "what a little bad ass! what a qt little tomboy!" when watching Arya because, oh sweet summer children. You know nothing. I love that Martin takes something like that which is a pretty expected trope in fantasy literature and then warps it because Arya is MESSED UP. Girl has major PTSD issues and rage issues and looses her identity.
cosnicgirl 4th-May-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
I like that he went there because it happens to lots of children who live in either a war zone/politically unstable environments.
goofusgallant 4th-May-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
MFTE
Poor girl, she went through a LOT of shit.
lokiyan 4th-May-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
I feel like they might soften her character up a bit in the tv show like they did with Cersei though, which I would not be a fan of.
forevernb 4th-May-2012 09:00 pm (UTC)
Ugh that would be so lame :/
beaucadeau 4th-May-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
GRRM's willingness to fuck with classic tropes is one of my favourite things about his writing, coupled with his complete inversion of some of his characters, like Arya, Jaime, Theon etc.

IMO, Arya is probably the most mentally fucked up characters in the series, and I love it, hahaha.
hateistoodark 4th-May-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah Arya is one of my favorite characters but seeing her lose herself in rage breaks my heart.
I keep hoping it's not too late to for her
lcacbc 4th-May-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
ITA. It's one of the reasons I believe she won't survive the series: she has been too messed up and there's no going back imo.
shahoney 4th-May-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
I don't think she's as messed up in the TV series as she is in the books though, given that they adjusted her age and maturity level for television audiences (she's 8 1/2 in the early books, but she's 12 by the end of TV Series Season 1). THAT is a huge age gap that television writers can work with in terms of "coping mechanisms" for a character who gets separated from her family and loses her identity.

Experiencing what Arya's gone through at age 8 can be very different if she experienced it at age 12 (which is her age in the TVS). And some of the actors/actresses and producers already expressed sentiments about how the TVS is gradually deviating from the books (e.g. Arya becomes a cupbearer for Tywin instead of Bolton--which slightly changes the dynamic of her character's relationship/POV in the TV series compared to what happens in the books).

Edited at 2012-05-04 07:47 pm (UTC)
lydzi 4th-May-2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
IA. That's a very clever twist he gave. At the beginning we're all "yay" and then you lose that smile and cheer pretty quickly.
remix_sakura 4th-May-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
Do you think that she views him as she would one of her older brothers? mb an older brother she wants to fuq

Dear lord, DNW! Hasn't this series got ENOUGH incest?!
anolinde 4th-May-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
People keep saying she's a sociopath in the later books and I honestly don't get that...? Like, how is she comparable to Gregor Clegane? From what I recall, she only goes after people who've hurt her or her family members in some way.
fauxkaren 4th-May-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
Sociopath is overstating it.

But girl is not completely stable.
anolinde 4th-May-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, no, I definitely agree that she has some major issues. But I've honestly never understood the whole sociopath thing.
destructo_ray 4th-May-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
What did the Night's Watch singer guy do to her?
But no, I don't think she's a sociopath.
cyberghostface 4th-May-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
anolinde 4th-May-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
Hahaha omg.
remix_sakura 4th-May-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
Werq
mandramoddle 4th-May-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
That was my reaction to this scene.
rebeljean 4th-May-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
lusushi 4th-May-2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
omg this gif is amazing
coffeenmorphine 4th-May-2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
I'm legit stifling a laugh at my desk right now.
girl_fusion 4th-May-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, yum. I felt like a pedophile looking at him in that way... :(
bro_mance 4th-May-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
omg
deadendqueen16 4th-May-2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
LMAO
jessi_cola 4th-May-2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
Lmaooooo dead every time I see thi
dannyupshaw 4th-May-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
Wish I had my own Jaqen
mandramoddle 4th-May-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
Jaquen is so fucking hot. UNF.
bustix2000 4th-May-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
YAY! Game of Thrones post! LOL Been waiting for one just so I could post this.



Yes, I'm fairly lame like that. :D
bustix2000 4th-May-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
Also, (after reading the actual post): Maisie is adorbs.
bro_mance 4th-May-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
LMAO
Rob Volz 4th-May-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
A+
midnightblack07 5th-May-2012 09:04 pm (UTC)
LOL
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