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5:25 pm - 04/26/2012

A Complete Guide to 'Hipster Racism'



There's been a lot of talk these last couple of weeks about "hipster racism" or "ironic racism"—or, as I like to call it, racism. It's, you know, introducing your black friend as "my black friend"—as a joke!!!—to show everybody how totally not preoccupied you are with your black friend's blackness.

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zeoshi 27th-Apr-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
i always feel awk talking about race with white people because they always say something awful like oh i don't even think of you as black smh like it's a compliment
baptismtonight 27th-Apr-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
im not trying to be all "i hate white people" because i definitely do not...but i distrust white males significantly. they deny their privilege so much and a lot live to make certain factions of society feel less than...As a WOC, Im actually talking from experience.

also, if im walking down a street at night im more likely to be scared of a white man than a black man surprisingly #howdoyoulikthemapples
shantayustay 27th-Apr-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
As a white person, I will agree.

A prominent white person in my town will never go to jail for killing a homeless person because he's white and has a lot of money.

If it were anyone else, they would be in prison.

It is classism and racism.

enjoyyourbunny 27th-Apr-2012 02:04 am (UTC)
ia. White guys think (and can in most cases) get away with anything. Get raped by a white guy? You're the slut trying to set him up and probably asked for it. Get raped by a black man? Black men are violent and deserve to be in jail. It's sickening.
antique_faery 29th-Apr-2012 02:50 am (UTC)
I feel the same way. It's extremely disgusting how that shit works.
fullxcliphxc 27th-Apr-2012 01:44 am (UTC)
I stay away from guys in general. But I'm more likely to be scared by a black man than a white man because I'm around white males more often.
callme_morbid 27th-Apr-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
tbh i distrust all men, but i will admit that white men are the most irritating. (although white women follow closely!)

LBR white men get away with everything. my whole uni experience is a testament to this. but even in hollywood or the media -- anytime a black or latino man is accused of something, he's never given a doubt. meanwhile white men are easily forgiven for their shit, or conveniently most people ~forget.
dothecrunge 27th-Apr-2012 05:12 am (UTC)
ia. All my male friends are POC and the white males I've befriended have made me very uncomfortable tbh. They are extremely not self-aware
unclesamonmars 27th-Apr-2012 05:15 am (UTC)
As a white woman, I'm more likely to be scared of a white man than anyone else. Because they're the only people as a whole that have no reason to be scared of me, if you get what I'm saying.
hershelwalker 27th-Apr-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
ia with you
devetu 27th-Apr-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
the most hipster racist person i know is my own mom without meaning to be. she thinks because she had kids with black men and is married to anyone she as a white person can say anything she wants about black people. including saying that black women are all jealous and threatened of white women (excluding me because i'm mixed and mixed people are ok) and that white people are racially oppressed. yeah, this is the person whose vagina i came out of.
laurie_springs 27th-Apr-2012 01:50 am (UTC)
lol this describes my mom to an extent, too. I've never heard her say anything fucked about black women though. That prize goes to my father (but that's an entirely different discussion)

She honestly thinks because she lived in a black neighborhood for a few years she is an authority~ of sorts. Drives me crazy.
asdfjklkjhfds 27th-Apr-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
are you me

my mom is the worst for this kind of shit without even realizing. you do not get a free pass because your kids are black, saying stupid shit about black people having "ghetto names" and "bad hair" is never okay
devetu 27th-Apr-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
do you want to form a support group with me? because lawd. i'm so thankful my dad raised me to be proud and secure of my race because i would be such a mess without him.
hello_samm 27th-Apr-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
My Filipino grandmother said she would disown me and not give me an inheritance if I date/marry a black guy. She hates interracial couples but ZOMG she married a white man lol.
helloneworld 27th-Apr-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
my mom says racist shit and thinks it is okay to say it cause she is a "wise" person who has lived a long time over the years that speaks from experience.

the advice? that all black men (especially the "dark ones") beat their women and have anger problems. except the "light" ones who have a little bit of "white" in them.
whataboutdasha 27th-Apr-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
gurl I think we have the same mom tbh.
chihaya19 28th-Apr-2012 05:09 am (UTC)
interesting that when i didn't understand a slang phrase and then when i said i was mixed and someone said that it still stood that i was basically white that you thought it was funny. kind of mean when we come from a similar background.
shantayustay 27th-Apr-2012 01:48 am (UTC)
TBH, I have more of a problem with classism than racism, but that's just me.
0sleep2dream0 27th-Apr-2012 01:51 am (UTC)
It doesn't really matter what colour you are as long as you're green.
shantayustay 27th-Apr-2012 01:56 am (UTC)
TBQH it is not easy being green.
hershelwalker 27th-Apr-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
cool
tradskins 27th-Apr-2012 02:01 am (UTC)
lmfao i fuckin wonder why that could be

HMMMMM
myroomiswhite88 27th-Apr-2012 06:51 am (UTC)
i have a more problem with racism than classicism because class you can escape, whether you become richer some how, or hide it (if possible), but race? there is no escape.. no hiding, it can't change
lovebum4life 28th-Apr-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
aren't you white? stfu then b/c obviously you wouldn't have a problem w/racism b/c it doesn't affect you.


I swear the ignorant white folk in this post are killing me
truthisadrug 27th-Apr-2012 01:50 am (UTC)
i hate the appropriation of aboriginal cultural stuff like headdresses. so fucking stupid.
kwikimart 27th-Apr-2012 01:54 am (UTC)
Lol at some white people on my friend's FB arguing about the parts of this that were wrong/nitpicking word choice instead of addressing some of the very right points this raised.

"Since when was thug associated with black culture?!"

oh

IA that the writer worded herself poorly on parts but jfc, don't play dumb white friend of a friend
age_of_green 27th-Apr-2012 01:55 am (UTC)
I get a feeling that white people are all guilty by association when it comes to racism. Tbh I don't like feeling guilt for being a member of an oppressing race, especially since that's something out of my control. But I try to check myself and not say/do dumb things, and deal with how I think, though that takes longer.

kwikimart 27th-Apr-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
That's a great attitude to have. People often don't address privilege because it's too painful.
It may feel horrible but try being the oppressed person so...
jessepinkman 27th-Apr-2012 02:26 am (UTC)
your comments... :)
scotchsour 27th-Apr-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
people think PC is a bad think but i equate it as a five second delay system between your brain and mouth that say you are about to say something viciously unkind and stupid as fuck, do you you want to think about what your going to say.
brucelynn 27th-Apr-2012 01:56 am (UTC)
Perfect article is perfect

I'm scared to read through the rest of this post ..
oh7 That Gwyneth Paltrow video27th-Apr-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
asdfjklkjhfds 27th-Apr-2012 01:59 am (UTC)
so this article isn't perfect and lol @ it coming from jezebel but yas to these points. tired of awk moments when white friends say ignorant shit and get mad when they're called out on it.

oh and i'm biracial and i swear every time someone mentions "stuff white people like" there's always someone who thinks it's clever to crack a joke about ~how i must feel about it, y'know, since i'm half black

ughughughguaghuds
definitelybro 27th-Apr-2012 02:00 am (UTC)
What's the consensus on the "it's not racist, it's just my preference!~" line when it comes to interracial dating?

I swear, 3 times in the past month people have told me that they would NEVER EVER consider going out with someone non-white, and then got all offended when I called them out on it.
mari_lyn00 27th-Apr-2012 02:08 am (UTC)
That's straight racist to me. It's not just a preference thing, it's that people who say 'Oh i would *never* date someone of so and so race* don't even open up to the idea of dating someone of that race. How could you say you would never when you dont even give it a chance? That's racism imo. Closing people off just based on their race, is racist.
hahahey 27th-Apr-2012 02:08 am (UTC)
any line that starts with "it's not racist" makes me automatically think "racist"

And I def think it's a little off when someone won't even consider going out with a POC, it doesn't sit well with me
soul_amazinn 27th-Apr-2012 02:12 am (UTC)
it's racist.

It's usually not about preference. It's about not wanting to date a specific race because what they usually mean is "I don't find ____ people attracitve

Edited at 2012-04-27 02:12 am (UTC)
baloola 27th-Apr-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
I think that's pretty racist...like it's one thing to go through life and never end up dating a black guy, but it's another thing to straight up verbalize that you would never go out with a specific race.
squishinator 27th-Apr-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
Oh I think thats racist for sure. I PREFER men who are like 6'1 and look like Taylor Kitsch or Zac Efron but... sometimes its about what is inside, too.

And when they say "i just dont find black women attractive" or w/e... Umm there are plenty of gorgeous black women wtf
youbeboy 27th-Apr-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
My roommate in college was like that. She actually said she wasn't attracted to black guys at all and her Asian bff co-signed. People never stop to consider why they feel that way. It's way more than [insert race here] isn't attractive. At its roots it's racism and indoctrination, plain and simple.
asymptom 27th-Apr-2012 02:16 am (UTC)
Racist. Either they find all non-white people unattractive or they don't want to be associated romantically/sexually with a specific group of people because they see it as a negative thing.

It's also usually the people who also date the most busted white people sooo
quidscipio 27th-Apr-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
this is honestly the weirdest thing to me. maybe it's because i'm a desperate hoe who needs to get some nao, but i do NOT care what color a person's skin is. if they're cute, they're cute, beige, chocolate, asian, curly haired, straight haired, bald, whateva. GET AT ME mennnnnnnn lol

the only thing i will say is that sometimes i am wary of white men because i am not down to fulfill someone's yellow fever fixations, although this could be said for all men
definitelybro 27th-Apr-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
I feel ya. cute boys come in so many shapes, sizes, shades, etc. why would you deny yourself like that?
leomentlines 27th-Apr-2012 06:05 am (UTC)
ifkr!! there are SOO many attractive men of all races - i feel sorry for people who ONLY date White men.
asdfjklkjhfds 27th-Apr-2012 02:18 am (UTC)
people always try to argue that it's preference because they're "just not attracted to _____ people!!!" but bleh, nope. the idea that you're automatically making assumptions about the attractiveness or suitability of another person based solely on their race is racist imo.

Edited at 2012-04-27 02:18 am (UTC)
enid_keaner 27th-Apr-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
I don't even know how to respond.

I mean, I know people have physical preferences. I'm black. I go weak in the fucking knees for the dark hair/light eyes combo. Since this is more commonly found in whites, I assume that one could say it's racist. People have told me I'm racist for that.

But I can find people of all races attractive, because lbr, hotness knows no race.

I just don't understand HOW someone could say they'd NEVER go out with someone of a different race or find someone of a different race attractive. How is that possible? Deliciousness can be found in all races.
mhfromnh 27th-Apr-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
my sister has been with only one white-boy. I don't think it's racist of her. however, her jokes about "awkward Asians" are.
kapuki234 27th-Apr-2012 02:26 am (UTC)
racist. simple.
squishinator 27th-Apr-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
i especially love when my parents will see someone on tv or w/e and say something like "shes an attractive black girl"... why the need to specify? cant they just be attractive?
normalchick 27th-Apr-2012 02:28 am (UTC)
I think it's racism. My friend is a white girl and asked me out of nowhere if it was bad that she didn't wanna get married and have kids with anyone but a white person because they wouldn't look anything like her. I told her I thought it was pretty bad and racist and she got offended with ME.
scarletfruit 27th-Apr-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
Shallow and racist. They're judging a person based on their looks and probably the stereotypes the person's race entails.
nene718 27th-Apr-2012 03:59 am (UTC)
people like to pretend that they're so in control and that their thoughts aren't negatively shaped by society. it's never "just a preference"
rydee 27th-Apr-2012 03:59 am (UTC)
Oh yesss, they definitely should have had that on here
so_chic_doll 27th-Apr-2012 05:45 am (UTC)
I think sometimes it's a culture-understanding comfort... which is just sad, because then you never grow & you never learn. But those type of people are the same people who never go outside of their little ~safe comfort box zone~ so it's really not surprising.
myroomiswhite88 27th-Apr-2012 06:54 am (UTC)
here's the difference.. its one thing to pref someone, but to exclude everything no matter how good it could be, thats where hte problem comes in.

i have a low pref for a spec type of guys, however that doesn't mean i would never date them or even marry them if the right one came around .
brucelynn 27th-Apr-2012 08:29 pm (UTC)
It's racist

its one thing if you can't help who you are attracted to, but if you are singling people out because of skin color yes it is racist.
gettyupcowboy 27th-Apr-2012 02:11 am (UTC)
You know what pisses me off? When obviously cracked out white people are looking down on me because I'm black. Or thinking I'm trying to steal something. Are you serious?You think I want to steal from FUCKING WAL-MART? It just pisses me off that they think all blacks are thieves who are going to rob you. Like really? The person who's most likely going to rob is the strung-out crackhead.

Edited at 2012-04-27 02:15 am (UTC)
so_chic_doll 27th-Apr-2012 05:49 am (UTC)
I literally cannot work in retail anymore because of the racist mentality that I've encountered at every job when it comes to shoplifters.

So many times when there's been a black person in the store, I've been told "keep an eye out on them"... like WTF?? are you serious right now??

I've honestly never personally known a black person who steals, yet I have several white friends who steal make-up and shit regularly... so I think people often have the wrong idea about what they should be "looking out for". I think a white person is more inclined to steal because they know they're not going to be seen as suspicious, just because they're white.
heybrittanyxo 28th-Apr-2012 05:13 am (UTC)
omg this is late but I agree so much, my mom and I got followed at a shoe store in an outlet mall -_- and like it was so obvious, my mom said something to her too, she was like "can I help you?" lol

and yes me (being black) has never stolen but a bunch of my friends have (that are white) and yet I'm the one getting followed it's ridiculous
helloneworld 27th-Apr-2012 06:05 am (UTC)
i've encountered people who will ask me questions in public (for directions or in a retail setting). so while i stand there for a second and think about the answer they'll quickly interject with "do you speak english?" LOL. then i say "no not at all" while side eyeing them.

not sure if the same thing or not...
i sometimes get this too when i get religious people knocking on my door soliciting my..time.
myroomiswhite88 27th-Apr-2012 06:55 am (UTC)
when people do this , i just walk out. sadly its only happened with foreigners
chihaya19 28th-Apr-2012 05:12 am (UTC)
yeah my black teacher at university has or is getting his PhD in black studies and dresses totally normally and is always clean....and still gets followed at the grocery store.
livesamantha 29th-Apr-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
I want to tell a story but I'm scared people will get pissed even though I'm trying to be funny and nice. It's crazy how you can tell who is actually stupid about racism in this post because those people are just posting comment after comment without thinking about it first, and then people like me that are like shit maybe I should just keep quiet because it might be taken the wrong way.
enjoyyourbunny 27th-Apr-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
Shit like this makes me glad growing up in the South and in a Southern Baptist church didn't make me racist, and it makes me proud of my parents and grandparents from not tolerating people who are. My mom is Puerto Rican and when my dad and her started dating, one of my grandparents' neighbors came over and asked my grandma why she was letting her sons spend so much times with "that n girl", and my grandma told her it's none of her goddamn business who they hang out with, everyone is welcome at their house, "except you! Now get the hell off my porch and never come near or speak to family again!" Werk, Nana. There are non-racist white people out there. My dad's side of the family (sans my uncle who is a piece of shit, one time he told my brother "there's a difference between black people and n*****s") makes me really appreciate white people who recognize and fight the fight against racism.
gettyupcowboy 27th-Apr-2012 02:18 am (UTC)
I think it's worse when it's your own family. My deceased sister was married to my brother in law, who's white, anyway, my uncle and aunt told my sister if she had a 'mutt' then she wouldn't be allowed in their trailer.
enjoyyourbunny 27th-Apr-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
I would tell them to fuck off and die. As much as it sucks and hurts to divorce yourself from family members no one is obligated to put up with offensive hatred. I rarely speak to my uncle because of shit like that he's said. He even said shit about my ex being Jewish. I have no idea where he learned to be such a fuck.
cruel_idol 27th-Apr-2012 02:23 am (UTC)
"there's a difference between black people and n*****s"

OMG yesterday I was playing Counter Strike Source and some dude voice chatting was about to refer to some black people who were selling drugs in his neighborhood as that but got cut off thankfully due to a mod overhearing the convo. He tried to pull off that "There's a difference" line and the mod shut him down with, "There is a loaded context in that word and unfortunately still associated in that way today but I'm not gonna let you talk like that on my server, not even if the only person who would be offended (referring to myself) wasn't online playing just now."

Your grandmother is cool though. I can't wait to tell people to get the hell off my porch XD
chihaya19 28th-Apr-2012 05:16 am (UTC)
there was this black girl who tried to explain to me that some black people were normal and some were the n-word. i was pretty lost
canuckgirl33 27th-Apr-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
LOL, ONTD you never fail to entertain me
kapuki234 27th-Apr-2012 05:19 am (UTC)
i'm glad you can laugh at racism. it's just so hilarious.
canuckgirl33 27th-Apr-2012 02:47 pm (UTC)
Good job, thanks for the laugh.
hershelwalker 27th-Apr-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
lool
empirebird 28th-Apr-2012 05:44 am (UTC)
lolol srsly
redcliches 27th-Apr-2012 02:24 am (UTC)
wow, some of the comments in this post
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