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12:52 am - 04/19/2012

Chloe Sevigny thinks it's "reee-donkulous" that she can't say "tranny"

Chloe Sevigny In Trouble For “Tranny” Talk



Chloe Sevigny: I got reamed out by The Advocate the other day for saying “tranny.” I guess I referred to [my character] as a “tranny” a couple of times and apparently, that’s a no-no in the community. I felt really bad! Nobody had ever told me. Did you know that?

Huffington Post: I just know that now because I think Blake Lively also said that recently

Chloe Sevigny: Oh, so there’s been some uproar. Reee-donkulous. You can’t say anything anymore.


full interview after the cutCollapse )
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speedychi 18th-Apr-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
these comments...i honestly wouldntve known it was a "bad word" if i didnt come on ontd. like, even if youre referring to transexuals you cant call them trannies? whats wrong with that? not that ive ever used that word, or plan to

in related news, i find it weird that i hate the [gay slur] f-word and judge people that use it, yet i say nigga all the time. nigga this, nigga that, everyones a nigga *shrug*
it would makes sense if i were gay or something, but nope!
jinkm 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
Well, do you judge gay people who use it?
speedychi 18th-Apr-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
yeah...
ballooon 18th-Apr-2012 05:32 pm (UTC)
well the word is usually used as an insult/slur towards transgendered ppl, and when it's not, it's usually used to describe someone who looks like a hot mess. so yeah i get why trans ppl wouldn't want to be associated w/ that word. some of them don't find it offensive, but it's probably best if cisgendered people don't use the word.
sprywonderdog 18th-Apr-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
I've brought it up here before. The word tranny originates in Australia, where shortened words get -y or -ie added to the end (barbie, mossie, etc). It originated in the drag queen community there. It didn't start out as a bad word, just a shortened version of transvestite. I know a transgendered person that uses it and doesn't consider it negative at all, though she has mentioned before it isn't necessarily meant to refer to transgendered people as much as it is for transvestites.
abbreviated_kt 18th-Apr-2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
For me, I've never been called a "tranny", personally. But whenever the word comes up, it makes my hair stand on end because it feels like a person is trivializing the community like trans* people are novelties. I know other trans* identified people who use the word to describe themselves, and re-appropriation and all that, but it makes me uncomfortable every single time.

The term "hot tranny mess" could make me rage for days. As if trans* women as a people are just sloppy imitations of "natural born" womenfolk. It's just a hurtful stereotype to continue promoting...
r8ght 18th-Apr-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
Never understood the negativity with that word "Tranny". I think it sounds cute, kinda like granny. "Shemale" however sounds a bit revolting.

Anyone care to inform me why the word "Tranny" is a bad word to use, isn't it a shortend version of transgender or transsexual? (can't remember which).

And also who decides that the word "Tranny" shouldn't be used, has there been a vote among the transgender community or what.
jinkm 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
It's been used in a derogatory manner so often that it now has a negative connotation.
talksleazy 18th-Apr-2012 05:29 pm (UTC)
most trans* people who i know consider it to be a very hurtful word, probably because it's been used as an insult by cis people for so long and so often
jesustolemybike 18th-Apr-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
if there is a large enough group of people who are offended by a word that you think is 'cute'
then you're better off never using it...
onesilkstocking 18th-Apr-2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
m f t e kingslayer
nationalboner 18th-Apr-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
Fucking THIS.
abortions 18th-Apr-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
because people have used it before as a slur to dehumanize and oppress trans* and genderqueer people
saltireflower 18th-Apr-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
And also who decides that the word "Tranny" shouldn't be used, has there been a vote among the transgender community or what.

.....are you serious? Way to act like the transgender community has some sort of voting block. That's not dismissive at all.
bssybuse 18th-Apr-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
remember the brown bunny? that was horrible
tankmachine 18th-Apr-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
it's recently come to my attention that I love BARBEQUOIS

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SIP
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goldengal1193 18th-Apr-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
"Reee-donkulous. You can't say anything anymore."


Ohhhh, okay.

givethesignal 18th-Apr-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
Unless you're calling Hispanic people "cholas" and Asian people "orient" apparently, smdh
saltireflower 18th-Apr-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
lol A+
milkradio 19th-Apr-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
lmao ikr. I saw the Gaga gif and I was like "Oh... How awkward."
kreayshawn 18th-Apr-2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
Every time I go to the theater, every Playbill I see, every actor has an "SVU" credit and I wanted one.

lmao
bow 2 her girls stanning, fabulous interview
dramatik_irony 18th-Apr-2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
As a gay man, I was under the impression that tranny was just a shortened word for the trans community. It wasn't until I saw the backlash against Christian Siriano that I realized it was derogatory.

I guess it has to do with intent. I don't think Chloe Sevigny is running down the street calling people "trannies." She's been an ally for quite some time and I think to punish her for pointing out the over-PCification of our culture is just wrong.

IDK i haven't slept in a day.
crystalzelda 18th-Apr-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
Intent isn't magical though. Just because you didn't mean to hurt someone doesn't mean you didn't, and doesn't take away from the fact that it's a derogatory term to a lot of the people in the trans* community.

And pls, not with the over-PCification argument again. It's about respect, not being ~~~puliticully currect~~~.

Edited at 2012-04-18 05:31 pm (UTC)
talksleazy 18th-Apr-2012 05:35 pm (UTC)
i hate the term "politically correct" so much
like, i didn't cut these words out of my vocabulary because i want to look good and win popularity votes, i did it because i have friends and family who are hurt by them and if there's a way i can make their lives a little easier, i'll do it. it comes at no cost to me so why wouldn't i?
it's nothing to do with politics. it's a genuine desire to be a decent person and make the world better for others.
i sound like kind of a bleeding heart but idgaf
highd 18th-Apr-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
I was on pain meds and got about 14 hours of sleep and I agree with you 100%.
sexyvegeta 18th-Apr-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
Same. I always thought it was just a shortened word.
should 18th-Apr-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
I thought so too, but when I was told that it was offensive I didn't start ranting about how ~You can't say anything anymore~.
thewitness 18th-Apr-2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
i have many gay co-workers that cross-dress often outside of work, and they use the term "tranny" constantly, so i never knew it was a "bad" word to use until lately due to all the ONTD posts. :|
pink_dog 18th-Apr-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
I always thought it was short for transvestite and I never knew it was offensive

but I don't get some people's devotion to this word. It's just a word that really doesn't mean anything to me one way or the other. If it's hurting someone when I say it, I can just...not say it. It makes little difference to me, but if it makes someone else have a better time of it, nbd to not say it, you know?

Edited at 2012-04-18 06:40 pm (UTC)
xdecadentx 18th-Apr-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
I never thought it was offensive until I came on ONTD
soho 18th-Apr-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
Intent doesn't matter. When will people learn this? Even if you're not a racist, and you say something racist without knowing it - it's STILL racist. And if it hurts someone apologize and move on. Don't try to make it okay. You don't get to decide on what hurts someone. And not surprised most gay [and I'm guessing white] males don't understand or care in this thread...
imnotasquirrel 18th-Apr-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
I guess it has to do with intent.

Maybe, but if someone calls you out on it, then you shouldn't act all butthurt and gripe about how you can't say anything anymore.
jinkm 18th-Apr-2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
"I felt really bad"
"Reee-donkulous. You can’t say anything anymore."

Well, evidently you didn't feel too bad.
actxappalledx 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
lol mte way to contradict yourself two seconds later
parisdiorchanel 18th-Apr-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Girl :/
tradskins 18th-Apr-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
you were in fuckin boys don't cry

don't front like this is the first time you ever heard this shit
jesustolemybike 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
mte
saltireflower 18th-Apr-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
Good point
beaddddddsss 18th-Apr-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
You hit the proverbial nail on the head.
talksleazy 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
you mean i can't use oppressive slurs anymore? how reedonkulous
tiarlynn 18th-Apr-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
have you sought the help of a shrink yet after the upd8 last night??
talksleazy 18th-Apr-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
it's a good thing i love watching characters suffer and undergo deep personal and physical trauma or that would have really messed me up
jesustolemybike 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
what an asshole
...tranny isn't a good word to use and im pretty sure most trans people don't appreciate it
not to mention she should know better . she was in boys dont cry, i fucking love that movie
yououghtaknow 18th-Apr-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
girlfriend no
sprywonderdog 18th-Apr-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
Bye y'all!

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