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4 Real-Life Love Lessons Learned From Our 4 Favorite Fictional Men

4 Real-Life Love Lessons Learned From Our 4 Favorite Fictional Men
By Neha Gandhi

If I’m totally honest, some of my earliest understandings of love and relationships came from men who were not real. I fell harder than most other little girls — you could say my inner life was…rich — for the boys and men I got to know through books, movies, and TV. Unlike any guys I would ever meet in real life, these characters would routinely sweep my protagonists off their feet, or sometimes, just quietly pine for them, winning them over by sheer force of being pathetic (the first time I was able to qualify this: the moment when I rejoiced because Duckie didn't get the girl at the end of Pretty in Pink).

Rereading and rewatching these stories formed most of my ideas of how men and women should get along, and what I ought to be looking for in a perfect guy (because even the most flawed men somehow seemed perfect, by the end of a lot of these works of fiction).

Many of those lessons were flat-out wrong, but some of them were spot-on. If you ask me, thinking about the Jordan Catalanos and Dylan McKays of the world — not represented here, but honorable mentions for sure — helped me understand some of the most screwed-up things about what I thought I wanted, when it came to falling in love, and all of the steps leading up to it.

In college, my friends, who knew about my unhealthy attachments to fictional men, used to find endless entertainment in asking me to play f*ck, marry, kill with my four favorites (you have to kill two, in this scenario; so cruel): Theodore Lawrence, Pacey Witter, Rhett Butler, and Steff (from Pretty in Pink, but as far as I can tell, he had no last name). I loved them all so much back then, I could never choose, and the question basically threw me into a tailspin every time. Since then, I’ve figured a few things out though....



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The Knight In Shining Armor: Pacey Witter, Dawson’s Creek

When Dawson’s Creek found its way into syndication on TBS in the mornings, I was a junior in college. I’d watched most of the show faithfully when it aired in real time (taping it on VHS when I had swim practice in the evenings), but I skipped quite a few classes, and become newly obsessed with the drama, in that two-hour block, on weekday mornings.

And when Pacey fell for his friend Joey, I fell hard, for him. Everything about his story (plus the surface level kinship I felt to Joey Potter) felt so dramatic and difficult at the time.

Sure, I was old enough to see that Pacey had a hero complex (subtlety was hardly the show’s forte), but was it so bad that he cared so much? I didn’t think so. And while that particular brand of underachieving charm doesn’t really work on me anymore, I can’t pretend I’m not attracted to the guys who are willing to openly admit to their feelings early on, and persist through any indifference on my part. Pacey, unfortunately, may have given me the impression that it was okay to waffle and be unsure and wait for a guy to fight for my attention and affection. And even today, that’s a lesson I have to work on unlearning.

Being wooed is great, but you’ve gotta give something back, and Joey Potter so rarely did. And the guys always hung around and waited. But in reality, the guy who pines for you for years and hangs around forever, waiting for you, is never the guy who wins your respect.

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The Asshole: Steff, Pretty in Pink

This guy had pretty much zero redeeming qualities. He’s a self-loathing dick who’s a terrible friend to Blane, and verbally abusive toward his girlfriend. And his behavior toward Andie is hateful in a dark and malicious way that feels like total sociopath behavior. But somehow, I found his swagger so charming, both as a kid, and since we’re being honest, even now, on some level.

There’s something about the idea of the smoldering, confident guy secretly pining for our heroine that sets so many girls up to fail. The attraction to assholes is sometimes innate, but the idea that maybe, just maybe, if you gave him a shot, that guy could change for you, makes it all so much worse. Fortunately, I’ve never been the girl to date the dickiest guy in the room. And I kinda think that seeing my own attraction to Steff and not ever totally understanding it fired the initial warning shot that always kept me away.

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The Best Friend: Laurie, Little Women

Theodore Laurence was my first love, and even to this day, I can’t read the scene where Jo rejects his proposal (see above — doesn't it look heart-wrenching?), without tearing up, and having to put the book down. As a child, all I wanted was a wonderful, kind-hearted but boldly mischievous friend (yeah, it’s a recurring theme for me, and I’m guessing, more than a few of you, too) who incorporated himself into my family and then grew up to want to marry me.

And I can’t really say that all that much has changed today. I’ve since taken a few lit classes that call Laurie out for being emasculated and also a peeper. I’ve sat through countless discussions about the male/female dynamic of Jo, with her larger-than-life ambitions and male nickname, and Laurie, with his female nickname and meandering sense of purpose. I get it. I really do. But all of that has done very little to temper my love for the boy who gives his love so wholeheartedly. Have I maybe crushed on a few guys who turned out to be gay, over the years? Yes. Can I blame that on Laurie? If I’m a little bit delusional, probably. But that’s hardly all that Little Women taught me.

Laurie, from a very early age, showed me that the best kind of love was the kind that sprung from friendship. I may have tried to turn a few ill-advised friendships into relationships over the years, as a result, but as far as fictional men go, Laurie’s done me almost no harm, and has encouraged me to date some of the guys who’ve made for the very best boyfriends, period.

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The Rogue: Rhett Butler, Gone with the Wind

Full disclosure: I’ve loved GWTW from a very early age. I have three copies of the book at home. One that’s tattered with all of my margin notes, one that’s a decent paperback version, for actual reading, and one that’s a leatherbound early edition, which looks very lovely on my bookshelf. All of that is meant to preface the fact that I’ve spent a lot of my life pining for Rhett Butler.

There’s something very masculine and decisive, but also manipulative about him, and that’s all very appealing to me. But there’s also something very stand-up about him. He’s a man who lives by his own moral code but also can’t shake himself of the ties that bind (his fondness for Melly, his eleventh-hour enlistment in the Confederate army, his return to Charleston, all of these things suggest it). And that’s what breaks my heart at the end of the book when he leaves Scarlett.

To me, Rhett has become a very complicated reference point for what a man should be, but at his very core, he represents a brash man who’s willing to go to the ends of the earth to make a woman love him. He lives by his own rules without ever really crossing the line (depending on where you draw the line), and he personifies the idea of the rogue who will come into your life to sweep you off your feet. But if you read closely, he also reveals himself to be a man who (arguably) rapes the woman he loves, and walks out on her when she finally comes to love him in a meaningful way. And that’s not an ideal foundation for anything.

In recent years, I think I’ve come to realize that in a game of f*ck, marry, kill, I’d probably f*ck Pacey, marry Laurie, and kill the other two, but to be totally honest, that’s my answer in a bubble. Confronted with the realities of what these archetypes actually represent, I still make the wrong choices a lot of the time, but at least now, I know that I’m doing it. Progress, right?



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Thoughts? Who are your fictional crushes, ONTD?
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evocates 16th-Apr-2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
JO SHOULD'VE MARRIED LAURIE, DAMNIT
fromyourashes 16th-Apr-2012 02:24 pm (UTC)
But then what would have become of Friedrich?
winegums 16th-Apr-2012 03:35 pm (UTC)
no1curr
parker_hallie 16th-Apr-2012 02:26 pm (UTC)
IFKR? I mean, I get why she and the professor were ~more compatible~ but her relationship with Laurie was so sweet and genuine. I think they could have grown into romantic love if Jo'd given him a chance.
365reasonswhy 16th-Apr-2012 02:31 pm (UTC)
This is one reason why I prefer Anne of Green Gables to Little Women. Anne actually married her Laurie, so it feels much more satisfying.

They're both great though, and I don't totally hate Mr. Bhaer or Amy, it just feels wrong.
blacklicorice99 16th-Apr-2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
No one will ever understand how much this upset me as a little girl reading this book. I understand it now but damn I was pissed
shania_cares 16th-Apr-2012 03:35 pm (UTC)
Yes, esp. b/c him marrying Amy is unbearable. Ugh Amy, one of the many reasons I hated LW. Maybe I'm just a Jo stan? I mean, I adored Little Men and Jo's Boys.
bathstone 16th-Apr-2012 03:41 pm (UTC)
THIS. Jo/Laurie was my first ship and her marrying the boring professor crushed my 10 year old self. I will never forgive Amy either, haha. She was sucha brat, man.
lostinshalott 16th-Apr-2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
THISSSS
preeho 16th-Apr-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
SERIOUSLY. I STILL can't read Little Women because I hate that he ended up with AMY

The worst.
xcollsangelx 16th-Apr-2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
No way, the Professor was suited for her.

infinite_drag 16th-Apr-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
TOTALLY. i was so mad when I read the book and then livid when I saw the film (Cbale>>>>>>>>gabriel byrne)
fromyourashes 16th-Apr-2012 02:23 pm (UTC)
Jo March was my fictional crush for years.

Also, I'd fuck Steff (because he'd probably bust out some kinky shit), marry Rhett (because I don't think he'd mind the lesbian affairs I'd have on the side), kill Laurie because it was pretty nasty to go from one sister to the next, and keep Pacey in the closet for various reasons.
joseishijin 16th-Apr-2012 11:17 pm (UTC)
OMG, you icon! LOL...
bad_situation 16th-Apr-2012 02:24 pm (UTC)
Steff was so hot, damn.
blenderhead 16th-Apr-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
Jesse Pinkman has pretty much ruined all other men for me.
prettywitch 16th-Apr-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
Thoughts? Who are your fictional crushes, ONTD?

Ben Barnes. Because no one that perfect can be real.
_idlewild 16th-Apr-2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
Bin Bons made me care for Dorian Gray.
bloolikejazz 16th-Apr-2012 06:17 pm (UTC)
your icon needs to go. every time i see it i waste an hour of my life just staring at it.
fuck bin bons and his perfection.
prettywitch 16th-Apr-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
loool! Embrace it bb. :D
yousaidlog 16th-Apr-2012 02:26 pm (UTC)
Jim Halpert has been my standard since 2005. ~nothing compares 2 u~
parker_hallie 16th-Apr-2012 02:27 pm (UTC)
pre-marriage Jim Halpert lbr
yousaidlog 16th-Apr-2012 02:40 pm (UTC)
Seeing him interact with babies kills me tho. Eeeeps!
mcpofife 16th-Apr-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
he's too much of a wimp imo

like letting that new girl hang out on his hotel bed in a robe for hours. wtf, throw her out. but he won't because he's ~too nice~.

or letting other men push him around and insult him, and he just looks at the camera plaintively or avoids eye contact.
bad_situation 16th-Apr-2012 02:27 pm (UTC)
Eric Taylor, Matt Saracen & Luke Cafferty from Friday Night Lights please.

& in some Tim Riggins as well because he's really hot.

Edited at 2012-04-16 02:27 pm (UTC)
fromahippie 16th-Apr-2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
YOU HAVE GOOD TASTE
jollygoodthat 16th-Apr-2012 03:28 pm (UTC)
this this this this
polaroidmoment 16th-Apr-2012 03:30 pm (UTC)
omg some sort of mixture of all those characters would be amazingggg.
rollogreb 16th-Apr-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
I'm here for Eric Taylor and Vince Howard (he loved his momma so much ;___;)
pink_the_color 16th-Apr-2012 05:29 pm (UTC)
i LOVE luke so much. i wanted more luke!
imsodeep 16th-Apr-2012 08:16 pm (UTC)
perfection right here. Add in some Vince, too.
lulubelle007 16th-Apr-2012 02:27 pm (UTC)
the very very dumb but impooooossibly beautiful jordan catalano please n thank you bye
lulubelle007 16th-Apr-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
also, i dont like the movie but ryan gosling's noah in notebook would do me just fine, when older.

wits 16th-Apr-2012 02:32 pm (UTC)
with the beard, mmmmm
cupkate 16th-Apr-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
He may have been dumb, but he was a nice, sweet dumb!
theantipoet 16th-Apr-2012 02:28 pm (UTC)
Dawson/Pacey was the only couple getting it on in the Creek in my mind.
wits 16th-Apr-2012 02:28 pm (UTC)


excuse u
inboots 16th-Apr-2012 02:40 pm (UTC)
i actually prefer him as mark darcy, ngl

my fave austen guy is frederick wentworth
ciel_est_bleu 16th-Apr-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
MTE on both!!! We seem to be soulmates <3
lostinshalott 16th-Apr-2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
wentworth <33333
adigallia 16th-Apr-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
LOVE Wentworth.
joseishijin 16th-Apr-2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
THIS!

Although I wouldn't kick Darcy out of bed...
parker_hallie this Darcy is better though16th-Apr-2012 02:41 pm (UTC)
aisling_ducks 16th-Apr-2012 02:42 pm (UTC)
Yes!!
blacklicorice99 16th-Apr-2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
always!
ciel_est_bleu 16th-Apr-2012 02:59 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, I really like Jane Austen, but Darcy is kinda my least favorite of her heroes (along with Edmund) - I honestly don't really get his appeal. Imo, his best quality is Pemperley ;)
jollygoodthat 16th-Apr-2012 03:30 pm (UTC)
my fave austen heroes:

1. mr knightly
2. wentworth
3. darcy

and willoughby until he decided to choose money over love, smhhhh at him.
shania_cares 16th-Apr-2012 03:37 pm (UTC)
I feel like I'm an Elizabeth that's more attracted to Bingley types. I would eat a Darcy alive.
lostinshalott 16th-Apr-2012 04:02 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised he's not on the list! Him and Captain Wentworth are my fav. jane austen men.
lunanoir 16th-Apr-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
Ahhhhh Colin Firth, you make my heart pitter patter no matter the role.
infinite_drag 16th-Apr-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
UNFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
champagnexdream 16th-Apr-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
Omg Pacey. ♥ Best fictional boyfriend ever.
anconeous 16th-Apr-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
Jo rejecting Laurie is probably my most hated moment in literature AND film. He had to settle for basic bitch Amy afterwards.
jollygoodthat 16th-Apr-2012 03:30 pm (UTC)
+1
bathstone 16th-Apr-2012 03:43 pm (UTC)
Ugh, it's annoying, isn't it?
infinite_drag 16th-Apr-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
IAWTC sfm...
war_machine_rox 17th-Apr-2012 12:16 am (UTC)
I was so confused because I watched the movie before reading the book and could not understand why she said no to her obvious love interest.

Then got really, really upset about it and saw red the rest of the movie.
365reasonswhy 16th-Apr-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
Welp, I feel like I should go back and try to watch Dawson's Creek now that I'm mildly obsessed with Joshua Jackson. I never could get into it back when it was airing, mostly because I found Joey and Dawson to be irritating. But I keep reading such good things about Pacey and Michelle Williams is amazing.
lulubelle007 16th-Apr-2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
i reeeally dislike Joey and katie holmes 'acting' in general

but pacey's first love story was with a different girl, andy, and i loooved him in that couple
infinite_drag 16th-Apr-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
i'm the same lol... I hated DC with such a passion when it aired b/c of dawson & joey. But since then i've come to stan for JJ and MW, so i need to actually give it a shot lol...
_penguins_ 16th-Apr-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
dan humphrey is ruining real life men for me
ellaellaeheheh 16th-Apr-2012 02:34 pm (UTC)
I do love Dan right now...
_penguins_ 16th-Apr-2012 02:37 pm (UTC)
i don't even watch gossip girl anymore. just the dair scenes. but that seems to be the case for lots of people these days
velvetunicorn 16th-Apr-2012 02:34 pm (UTC)
LOL I totally crush of Steff as well. He's such a dick and he doesn't wear socks with his loafers but he's so hot!

Remember when Pacey was banging his teacher? It was all anyone was talking about in the early Creek years.
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