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1:28 am - 04/10/2012

Why Andrej? Why...?!

The model Andrej Pejic dropped the N-word on twitter while talking to a friend. One of his followers responded below.

I retweeted his cute conversation with Rye Rye before I saw this. : (

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Mods, he's a well known model. Idk what other tags you want me to use.
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hershelwalker 10th-Apr-2012 06:47 am (UTC)
really? interesting. I expected a different reaction from you after reading your comments in the lena dunham post.
rogue 10th-Apr-2012 06:52 am (UTC)
i'm not saying the use of the word is excusable. it is offensive. for me, personally, i have people coming up to me all the time with that "WHAT'S UP NIGGAAA" shit 'cause i'm their only black friend and i just can't even anymore. at first i was mad, now i'm like you don't know better and it's sad. eyeroll, sideeye, shrug, walk away.
kapuki234 10th-Apr-2012 06:54 am (UTC)
maybe you shouldn't be friends with them.
rogue 10th-Apr-2012 06:59 am (UTC)
no lies detected.
these are the friends/people i only see when i go to work, not hang out with regularly, thankfully. it's only in the workplace.
kapuki234 10th-Apr-2012 07:04 am (UTC)
they call you that at work?! wtF
evalize 10th-Apr-2012 01:12 pm (UTC)
MTE. There are policies and procedures in place for ppl who make discriminatory remarks like that
suzycat 10th-Apr-2012 06:57 am (UTC)
Oh god that's disgusting.
hershelwalker 10th-Apr-2012 07:00 am (UTC)
I could never just ~side eye~ people who say dumb shit like that. letting them get away with saying offensive things is what FEULS them to continue. calling people out isn't for naught, even if it doesn't seem like it accomplishes anything. it's the principle of it anyway.
kapuki234 10th-Apr-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
oc didnt just "let them get away," it seems like she called them out on it but they keep doing it regardless. so now she's just sick of it or whatever.

plus it's not up to poc to constantly challenge racism. ignorant white people have no excuse.

and it looks like they're her coworkers, which means there's added extra professional pressure to not act "controversial" in the workplace. meaning unlike you or i, she can't aggressively call out racism otherwise be socially punished in her workplace context (be stereotyped as the angry black woman and lose all friends).

/been there, done that.
hershelwalker 10th-Apr-2012 07:26 am (UTC)
I wasn't referring to the work situation. no it's not our job to "challenge" racism, but allowing people (especially friends or acquaintances, people who are familiar with me) to say offensive things in my presence does not sit well with me and never will. and that's what I was saying. in my experience, only when I've consistently called people out on their shit did they stop saying it around me. now I highly doubt they stopped saying it period, but it's a start. it's the same with EVERYTHING in life - you can't just do something a few times and expect results. people tend to react to consistency.

(be stereotyped as the angry black woman and lose all friends).

so now we should watch what we do or say lest be we stereotyped? no thanks. as I said, I get the work thing, but I don't want to encourage this being a concern in any other setting.

now to clarify, I'm not trying to tell her to do this or that, I never was. if she doesn't want to "lose friends", then ok. but no, I don't think a side eye is a proportionate response. might as well do nothing.

her comments in the other post were wildly opposite to this so no, I'm not really getting it.
kapuki234 10th-Apr-2012 07:32 am (UTC)

so now we should watch what we do or say lest be we stereotyped? no thanks. as I said, I get the work thing, but I don't want to encourage this being a concern in any other setting.

not what i'm saying. i meant that the pressure of being stereotyped in a workplace setting makes it extra harder (in that it affects how people see you as a capable worker, etc) to call out workplace racism.
shincaru 10th-Apr-2012 07:20 am (UTC)
*shrug* She's picking her fights.

Sometimes there is literally nothing you can do (without risking real shit) except ignore it and wait for the troglodytes to pick their asses in a different field.
hershelwalker 10th-Apr-2012 07:28 am (UTC)
except there is ALWAYS something you can do - say something. there is never "literally nothing you can do except ignore it".
shincaru 10th-Apr-2012 07:39 am (UTC)
Except sometimes there isn't? Your other comment says you acknowledge that she may have a lot riding on staying where she is (e.g. the only job she has, or it's leading somewhere she needs to go, etc.), which is what I'm talking about.

Dude I get the philosophy about saying something, I really feel you and I'm a snappy bitch RL too sometimes, but as another tiny non-white woman with bills to pay, I have to look out for my ass and my time. For every person who feels a twinge of shame when I tell them 'no, guy', there's another two by whom I risk getting hurt by or wasting 10 minutes of my life throwing metaphorical eggs at a brick wall trying to explain why X language is damaging and hurtful.

If you're bold as brass, seriously, that is great and that works for you and I hope you keep going. But it doesn't work for everyone, much as I wish it would.
roguewave3 10th-Apr-2012 07:31 am (UTC)
Omg, I could never talk to people like this.
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