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'The Borgias' Francois Arnaud on Cesare and Lucrezia Borgia incest and Season 2

Sitting at an outdoor table at a cafe on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, digging into a salad and carrot juice, French-Canadian actor Francois Arnaud -- who plays Renaissance nobleman, priest and politician Cesare Borgia on Showtime's "The Borgias" -- looks like any other dark-haired, slightly scruffy 26-year-old actor.

Apparently that confuses some people.

"I was meeting a girl this morning for a magazine," says Arnaud, "and she's like, 'What?' I don't know if she was expecting me to show up with long hair, in a long, red dress. It's weird. It's just weird. People don't think that I look like a normal 26-year-old."

"The Borgias" returns for a second season on Sunday, April 8, continuing the saga of the 15th-century family, headed by patriarch Rodrigo Borgia (Jeremy Irons) -- aka Pope Alexander VI -- which blended the influence of the Roman Catholic Church with plenty of temporal power and wealth (not to mention heaping helpings of sin and debauchery along the way).

Along with Cesare, Rodrigo's other children with his longtime mistress, Vanozza (Joanne Whalley), are swashbuckling soldier Juan (David Oakes) and daughter Lucrezia (Holliday Grainger), whose relationship with Cesare borders on being too close for comfort.

In Season 1, Cesare chafed under the influence of his father, who had forced him into the priesthood against his will and later ascended to the papacy and elevated him to cardinal. Having little interest in the clerical life, Cesare's passions tended more toward intrigue, romance and even murder (even if he didn't always do the bloody deed himself).

In Season 2, things get more interesting.

"It's a big year for Cesare," says Arnaud. "He really comes of age. He grows into Cesare Borgia. He's not that angsty teenage boy anymore. He still struggles with his father, and he's involved in all that. He's very much ready to take control of the family now. As his father gets older, he's a little less able to make sound decisions.

"In Season 2, [Rodrigo] relies on his faith a lot. Cesare's not a very good Christian. Well, the father isn't either, but he thinks he is. He tries to be. He's torn. Cesare's torn between other things. For instance, in Episode 3, we're fighting the Italian army, and they have cannon, and we don't.

"So, the pope decides to pray for rain to soak the gunpowder. I'm like, 'You can pray if you want, but I'm going to go blow that gunpowder up.' And the rivalry between the brothers gets to another level. It's not childish play anymore."

While Cesare and Juan contend for a place in the family hierarchy, Cesare and Lucrezia move into another phase in their relationship. Last season, the brother and sister engaged in an apparently innocent flirtation that came to an abrupt end when she was married off to the violent nobleman Giovanni Sforza (Ronan Vibert).

While it was never shown that the flirtation was more than platonic, according to Arnaud -- and as evidenced by several fan-created YouTube videos inspired by the theme of forbidden love -- many fans were rooting for sibling romance.

"Me and my sister, yeah," says Arnaud. "We have good chemistry, we do. But it takes a different turn this season. God, I don't know what I can reveal or not. There's definitely more of that. It becomes a bit less childish and more mature -- not what you think, not what you think. Never ... or maybe. Who knows? You'll see. I can't reveal that. People are rooting for that relationship.

"My God! Crazy. It's what I heard most about the show, that people were crazy about that storyline. They want more. When I meet fans, they say, 'Are we going to see more of Cesare and Lucrezia together this year?' They're crazy about that stuff."

Asked if the fans are actually aware that this would be incest, Arnaud says, "Yeah, I know, I know. They can't live that in their own life, so they want to see it on TV, I guess. It's a very interesting relationship, because it's not just sexual attraction. You see that they love each other. It's not just about sex.

"We have a kiss in Season 2. Oh, my God ... I think we got a kiss. We might have a kiss. It's not a big kiss. It's a small kiss."

Along with more control and a kiss, Cesare also gets an upgraded wardrobe.

"I have to tell you one thing," says Arnaud. "Season 2 is the last season you're going to see me in that red dress. I did have leather pants in the first season. I get to wear more of them in the second season.


"I tell you, people keep talking to me about incest and the leather pants. That's all people are interested in. Moral dilemmas? No. Leather pants and incest? OK."


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liberateourtime 9th-Apr-2012 03:58 am (UTC)
so i stopped watching this show when the sister got married to that old guy
did cesare ever fuck his assassin that he whipped
because i was kind of waiting for that
evett 9th-Apr-2012 04:00 am (UTC)
did cesare ever fuck his assassin that he whipped

Sadly not yet.
wonderwomanhero 9th-Apr-2012 04:03 am (UTC)
How have I not friended you because of your flawless taste? I am si ashamed.
liberateourtime 9th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
one can dream
julietislimited 9th-Apr-2012 04:45 am (UTC)
a+ comment
wonderwomanhero 9th-Apr-2012 04:00 am (UTC)
ONLY INCESTUAL PAIRING (both on the show and irl) THAT I WILL EVER SUPPORT.
corona_boreal 9th-Apr-2012 04:24 am (UTC)
i feel the same way, lucrezia.
frklphace 9th-Apr-2012 05:45 pm (UTC)
ia ia
molokomolotov 9th-Apr-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
i tried watching this but couldn't get into it but i did get into the one on netflix which i thought was rly addicting but annoying because the guy that plays rodrigo has an american type accent while everyone else doesn't it was strange
mothflavour 9th-Apr-2012 04:30 am (UTC)
wut? jeremy irons has an american accent? idk what version you watched...
punkinelf 9th-Apr-2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
I stopped watching because Irons chewed so much scenery I thought he'd barf it out ;)

He's an old letch and a ham
dothecrunge 9th-Apr-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
Yes to the leather pants
threeatatimejay 9th-Apr-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
~goodnight, sweet prince~ is all I have to say about the ending.
curlycutie016 9th-Apr-2012 04:05 am (UTC)
All I could think in Season 1 was MORE LEATHER PANTS! and forbidden love would be nice too...
weekendwars 9th-Apr-2012 04:10 am (UTC)
It becomes a bit less childish and more mature -- not what you think, not what you think. Never ... or maybe. Who knows? You'll see. I can't reveal that. People are rooting for that relationship.

idk this made me lol. he's adorable.
loony_moony 9th-Apr-2012 04:13 am (UTC)
Because Cesare/Lucrezia was the only pairing with any kind of chemistry on the show. Dear lord but The Borgias has made me truly dislike Jeremy Irons.
chantemarissa 9th-Apr-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
The shit he says is appalling.
loony_moony 9th-Apr-2012 04:35 am (UTC)
Oh ugh don't remind me. I wanted to kick him in the balls after that interview.
kapuki234 9th-Apr-2012 04:18 am (UTC)
that's how good an actor he is.
chantemarissa 9th-Apr-2012 04:13 am (UTC)
why did they give him that terrible wig? i do like that they darkened the show a bit, I just hope they jump into meaty material.
kapuki234 9th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
yeah it looks like metalhead hair
chantemarissa 9th-Apr-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
David Oakes is so fucking hot. I miss Sancia already. :(
frklphace 9th-Apr-2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
she's not gone tho right?
chantemarissa 9th-Apr-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
Not sure. But as of right now Jeofrey/Sancia left rome.
kapuki234 9th-Apr-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
here i was hoping the pope would be gay when he tried to hit on that artist
dothecrunge 9th-Apr-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
ME TOO
ishachan 9th-Apr-2012 04:19 am (UTC)
I have a friend who looks just like Francoid Arnaud and every time I see him on tv I get confused and I'm like, "When did Eric become a actor?" Every time I see my friend I'm tempted to refer to him as Cesare lol.
wonderwomanhero 9th-Apr-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
PICS OR I CANNOT BELIEVE
chantemarissa 9th-Apr-2012 04:22 am (UTC)
...and you aren't riding that dick because?
evett 9th-Apr-2012 04:24 am (UTC)
jealous of your life rn
rhymenoceros00 9th-Apr-2012 04:26 am (UTC)
omg gurl receipts
kapuki234 9th-Apr-2012 04:28 am (UTC)
receipts
agatharuncible 9th-Apr-2012 04:44 am (UTC)
I want to meet your friend.
aphrodite5239 9th-Apr-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
i would hit on your friend tbh
joaniemaloney 9th-Apr-2012 04:52 am (UTC)
lmfao this entire thread.
beaorgana 9th-Apr-2012 09:37 am (UTC)
Pics or fake
corona_boreal 9th-Apr-2012 04:23 am (UTC)
i've never shipped anything incestuous but i can't help it when it comes to cesare and lucrezia

and i love cesare/micheletto too.
mothflavour 9th-Apr-2012 04:28 am (UTC)
cesare/anything tbh
corona_boreal 9th-Apr-2012 04:39 am (UTC)
well i'd say yes but i didn't like cesare/woman-who-became-a-nun tho
joaniemaloney 9th-Apr-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
cesare/micheletto has a ridiculous amount of chemistry. I could not believe it when they were plotting murder but dayum.
wonderwomanhero 9th-Apr-2012 04:23 am (UTC)
I wish someone would buy me the Lucrezia Madame Alexander Doll...as I am broke and cannot afford such gloriousness.
agatharuncible 9th-Apr-2012 04:48 am (UTC)
that doll is both pretty and terrifying, but mostly the latter
rhymenoceros00 9th-Apr-2012 04:25 am (UTC)
Season 2 is the last season you're going to see me in that red dress. I did have leather pants in the first season. I get to wear more of them in the second season.

YASS to those leather pants. And I will miss the red dress just b/c of the scene:
wonderwomanhero 9th-Apr-2012 04:26 am (UTC)
mothflavour 9th-Apr-2012 04:28 am (UTC)
ffffff!
rhymenoceros00 9th-Apr-2012 04:32 am (UTC)
joaniemaloney 9th-Apr-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
guh. I could watch this forever. I wonder how many takes it took for him to do this.
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