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11:35 am - 04/06/2012

Why Madonna still leads, others follow

I thought she was over. Madonna, that is.
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I thought she was too old to be referring to herself as a "girl." I thought pop music passed her by. I thought Lady Gaga had killed her.
And then I look at this week's Billboard chart and I see I thought wrong.

Her 12th CD, "MDNA" debuted No. 1 on the album chart and she has two singles on the dance-chart Top 10. She's 53 and the clubs are banging her new stuff, including "Give Me All Your Luvin," which became her 38th top 10 hit on the pop chart. For those of you keeping score, that's more than Elvis, more than The Beatles. I'm not saying she's better, but clearly she's done -- correction -- doing more.

This year she won another Golden Globe and her halftime performance at the Super Bowl drew more viewers than the game itself, according to Nielsen. I know the perception is that only gay men care about Madonna, but if that were true, given the 114 million viewers who tuned in to watch her at halftime, maybe "don't ask, don't tell" should have been called "just assume."



The reality is it's hard for pop music to leave behind someone who keeps leading the pack. Madonna had the highest grossing tour ever for a solo artist (2008) and has sold more than 300 million records worldwide. She's an '80s child whose 2005 single "Hung Up" holds the Guinness Book record for topping the charts in 41 countries, while 2012's MDNA was No. 1 on iTunes in 40 countries.

That's not "over," that's now.

When you look at where Madonna's career is today in the same week we learned Whitney Houston drowned in a foot of water, you're reminded that God truly does work in mysterious ways. The two pop icons released debut albums within two years of each other, Madonna in 1983 and Houston in 1985.

Of course, Houston was the former model with a voice for the ages, while Madonna was the thin-voiced tart rolling around on the floor of the MTV music awards in a wedding dress proclaiming that she felt like a virgin. If anyone might have been expected to meet a desperate, tragic end, back then the safe money would have been on Madonna. And yet Houston's gone, Michael Jackson's gone, Prince is semi-retired and everyone else, with the exception of U2, is making their money off nostalgia.

Meanwhile, Madonna has methodically become, arguably, the greatest recording artist of all time. Who would've thunk it?

As for the music, her latest CD is not breaking any new ground, but it does remind everyone who owns the ground Gaga, Rihanna, Beyonce and others are walking on. In fact, each time they receive a royalty check, they should be sending Madonna a cut.

While MDNA is about three songs too long for my taste, I will tell you the first five songs make it very difficult not to want to dance, and that the track "Gang Bang" is pure genius. As you could probably figure out from the title, it's not radio friendly, but likely not because of what you may think. And that, in a nutshell, is why Madonna is who she is.

You can tell you're watching a Woody Allen film with the first five minutes of dialogue. You can identify the beautiful prose of Toni Morrison within a couple of pages. But my 15-year-old came home one day and asked who I was listening to. I told him Madonna and my son, who loves techno and hip hop, thought I was joking.

"Seriously... like your Madonna?" he asked.

"Yep," I said.

"Well, she's still old but that song's not."

The song was "Gang Bang" and I'm glad he left the room before she started singing. As I said, it's not radio friendly. But then again, it wouldn't be Madonna if a song like that was.
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turkish_popstar 6th-Apr-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
candidcouture 6th-Apr-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
fab
getnassty 6th-Apr-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Hey sis <3
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
Soooo tl;dr madonna has had a great career and still relevant. But IMO she has not been a trend-setter for a while. Which is fine, from my pov.

also: smh at anyone who ever thought madonna was done. She's going to AT LEAST have one faux-retirement/last tour before she actually stops. My estimation is that her final #1 hit will be in 2525.

Edited at 2012-04-06 04:51 pm (UTC)
turi 6th-Apr-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
I think she has been a trendsetter in business practices more than music as of late.
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
ooooh very good point.
cmm1982 6th-Apr-2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
I agree, her latest album does not compare to her other ones.
julialonso 6th-Apr-2012 05:40 pm (UTC)
My thoughts
ciccones 6th-Apr-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
basically
dragoncrab88 6th-Apr-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yep
riookierin 6th-Apr-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
Lol tbh, I don't think she'll ever stop.
highd 6th-Apr-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
Madonna will never be done, but I think she is past her prime when it comes to innovative ways of selling herself and recreating her image.

Madonna has become like toothpaste and deodorant, she is a purchase you make out of habit. I admit it, I bought the album off Itunes and have yet to play it. I have couple of friends that did the same thing. Honestly what I have heard on XM most of her stuff seems like a C+ effort at best this time around, but it doesn't matter because people will buy her until she quits or dies.
distantechoes4 6th-Apr-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
I agree.

She's a masterful Queen whos past work can hardly ever be matched, but ever since Hard Candy shes been way behind with music. I don't mean to sound ageist, but I think her age and lack of connection to the real music world has caught up with her.
my_whyte_noise 6th-Apr-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
i'm probably alone on this but i don't think Gang Bang is all that great. You hear the first minute and you've heard the whole song (which saves you from the painful "drive bitch/die bitch" piece).
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
it's good in a different sense from the rest of the album, IMO. It ranks as my #3 song, but it doesn't even have a chance against my top 2, which I think are overall better. GB I think is creative and fun and dramatic, which is good in a different way from my 2 favs, though.
my_whyte_noise 6th-Apr-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
i agree about it being different than the rest, which i appreciate 'cause the album as a whole just didn't really do it for me. i've just been reading Gang Bang this n Gang Bang that. I think people just like songs that use bad words so they can say them out loud. I think my favorite part of the album is Nicki Minaj's rap in I Don't Give A -.-
the_wolski 6th-Apr-2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
um the "drive bitch/die bitch" part is iconic
soba_kasu 6th-Apr-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
agreed. its the ~controversial~ song and it reaches too far
tuluum 6th-Apr-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
i -live- for drive bitch/die bitch
snortingcoke 6th-Apr-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
i don't think she's done but i think ray of light was her peak, tbh. that album is my favorite and nothing she's done since has ever been as good
the_wolski 6th-Apr-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
american life + confessions r gr8 tho


since confessions she's been sliding imo
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 04:57 pm (UTC)
IA. But that's because Ray of Light is SO amazing-- when your peak is that flawless, it's not a bad thing to have it as your peak. She's had different types of peaks, though-- musically, I think that was hers, culturally I think it was earlier, and then I think she'll turn the current era/next few years into a different sort of peak again.
riookierin 6th-Apr-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
I hear so many people say this, but I could NOT get into that era at all and I really tried. Lol D:
cricketgrl 7th-Apr-2012 03:10 am (UTC)
Like a Prayer was her peak.

Music was her last best album. Everything after that has been a huge disappointment.
brandon198403 6th-Apr-2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
Still not tired of GGW tbh...now if only that rumor about a remix with BritBrit was true..
maitressefleche Re: 6th-Apr-2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
u care way too much
getnassty Re: 6th-Apr-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
What did that pressed flop post? Since they have deleted their comment.
scheisse 6th-Apr-2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
Her first two singles flopped despite GMAYL having massive promo.

Her movie flopped.

Nearly half of her first week sales came from the album being bundled with tour tickets and her next week sales are predicted to drop by nearly 90%.

The only thing she has going for her is the tour because people want to hear her old hits, not her new ones.

Madonna is done. The world is over her. Next.
prophecy_grl 6th-Apr-2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
lolololol
turi 6th-Apr-2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
it's like an art form for u
brandon198403 6th-Apr-2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
aw, your google alerts got your panties in a bunch again I see

soundquake 6th-Apr-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
iawtc
maitressefleche 6th-Apr-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
is that gwen?
blckdg7171 6th-Apr-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
Wrong.
zoom_z00m 6th-Apr-2012 05:03 pm (UTC)
there is a lot of truth to this tbh.
It's really sad that GMAYL flopped when it already read desperate by featuring Nicki and M.I.A. kinda embarassing
brianistuft 6th-Apr-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
Damn girl, you're dragging poor Madge right now.
millioned 6th-Apr-2012 05:17 pm (UTC)
you sound mad sis, real mad.
jesusbitches 6th-Apr-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
ur so threatened
anolinde 6th-Apr-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
Damn, you give a whole new meaning to the word "pressed."
ciccones 6th-Apr-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
"Madonna is done. The world is over her. Next."

Millions of people who attend her concert disagree.

oh, you.
clump 6th-Apr-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
now you're just boring.
riookierin 6th-Apr-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
That's all true about her sales, but I think it also has a lot to do with the decline of the music industry as a whole, these days. You could put Madonna, Mariah, Brit, Gaga, Rihanna, and Katy Perry (ew, I know) together on a track, with Nicki Minaj screaming a verse, and it would probably still flop by our standards.(People who have seen singers sell 1 million+ albums in 1 week.)

people want to hear her old hits, not her new ones.

Ita! I like a lot of her newer stuff, but seriously, stfu and sing "Into the Groove", thanks.

*looks at other comments* Omg, was I not supposed to take your comment seriously? Lmao

Edited at 2012-04-06 06:16 pm (UTC)
getnassty 6th-Apr-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
tl;dr
mothermayiflirt 6th-Apr-2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
Took the words right out of my mouth bb. The CD really sucks, even Gang Bang. So overrated.
bradentastic 6th-Apr-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
thats funny bc

mtn, judas etc flopped

btw only sold so many albums because of amazon's .99 deal

gaga's entire album was a rip off of 90s dance music

look at your queen before you point the finger, sis
dragoncrab88 6th-Apr-2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
Madonna is done. The world is over her. Next.

Nope.
distantechoes4 6th-Apr-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
She has become a "oldie but goodie" artist like Cher. She might as well stop releasing albums at this point and just tour.
prophecy_grl 6th-Apr-2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
Because she is the baddest bitch ever. That's why. The end.
analapana83 6th-Apr-2012 04:57 pm (UTC)
With MDNA, i love some songs, hate some others. But the queen is the queen. I shall forever love this woman for her contribution to pop and her savvy, and i'll still, at least, get excited every time she drops something new.

Edited at 2012-04-06 05:00 pm (UTC)
ani_di_franco 6th-Apr-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
I'm here for Love Spent.

demented_21 6th-Apr-2012 05:05 pm (UTC)
Flawless perfection.
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
it's really just disgustingly perfect
ani_di_franco 6th-Apr-2012 05:12 pm (UTC)
I love the lyrics. I feel like it is brutally honest.
vanilla_blue 6th-Apr-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
so good
distantechoes4 6th-Apr-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
After many listens, i've come to terms that this is the only great track on MDNA.
cricketgrl 7th-Apr-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Disappointing that this is the best cut of the album.

Especially when you compare it to her other albums Pre-American Life.
pantspolice 6th-Apr-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
<333
blckdg7171 6th-Apr-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
I cannot wait to see her in September. 9TH ROW!!!
fight4thislove 6th-Apr-2012 05:56 pm (UTC)
see u in chicago bb
maitressefleche 6th-Apr-2012 05:03 pm (UTC)
but she's old getting a #1 alone is SHOCKING!!
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
she doesn't exist in the realm of averages though
paranoiddork 6th-Apr-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
When Kim releases something other than a video of her getting pissed on and a cheap ripoff tacky clothing line--let's talk.
distantechoes4 6th-Apr-2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
Thats because more than half of the first week sales were actually given away with her tour tickets.
demented_21 6th-Apr-2012 05:04 pm (UTC)
idc, I love the album. I went through a Gang Bang phase, then Love Spent, then Turn Up The Radio, then Falling Free, then Girl Gone Wild and rn I can't stop playing I'm Addicted.

Sure, it's no Ray of Light, but what is? That album is a masterpiece. But MDNA is a great album.
turi 6th-Apr-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
IA, it's good for a Madonna album which means it's a pretty solid album
demented_21 6th-Apr-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
Exactly bb.
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
truth

IDK that I would say it's GREAT, but it's def above the average, and it's best is something most artists could never achieve
cricketgrl 7th-Apr-2012 03:15 am (UTC)
Exactly, it's no "Like a Prayer" (her best album).

I haven't been into Madonna's music since "MUSIC". She needs to re-team with Stephen Bray and Patrick Leonard.
comalies 6th-Apr-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
Finally got around to listening to the album, I enjoyed it but it was kind of forgettable. I'll have to listen to it a few more times to see if it grows on me.
vanishingbee 6th-Apr-2012 05:20 pm (UTC)
I've had that reaction to her albums a lot, but I find that when you keep listening every single one has some serious jems that legit are good enough to keep around years later/forever.
groffiswin 6th-Apr-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
STUNNING ICON <3
comalies 6th-Apr-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
You too bb! :)
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