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11:19 pm - 04/03/2012

Joel Stein: "Adults Should Read Adult Books"



The only thing more embarrassing than catching a guy on the plane looking at pornography on his computer is seeing a guy on the plane reading “The Hunger Games.” Or a Twilight book. Or Harry Potter. The only time I’m O.K. with an adult holding a children’s book is if he’s moving his mouth as he reads.

I’m sure all those books are well written. So is “Horton Hatches the Egg.” But Horton doesn’t have the depth of language and character as literature written for people who have stopped physically growing.

I appreciate that adults occasionally watch Pixar movies or play video games. That’s fine. Those media don’t require much of your brains. Books are one of our few chances to learn. There’s a reason my teachers didn’t assign me to go home and play three hours of Donkey Kong.

I have no idea what “The Hunger Games” is like. Maybe there are complicated shades of good and evil in each character. Maybe there are Pynchonesque turns of phrase. Maybe it delves into issues of identity, self-justification and anomie that would make David Foster Wallace proud. I don’t know because it’s a book for kids. I’ll read “The Hunger Games” when I finish the previous 3,000 years of fiction written for adults.

Let’s have the decency to let tween girls have their own little world of vampires and child wizards and games you play when hungry. Let’s not pump Justin Bieber in our Saabs and get engaged at Cinderella’s Castle at Disneyland. Because it’s embarrassing. You can’t take an adult seriously when he’s debating you over why Twilight vampires are O.K. with sunlight. If my parents had read “Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing” at the same time as I did, I would have looked into boarding school.




NYTimes Fail Opinion
prophecy_grl 4th-Apr-2012 08:46 am (UTC)
What I mean by fifth grade level refers both to the level of complexity within the stories/characters and the actual dialogue used to convey those stories and characters.

Now, that's not to say that the themes aren't adult (much like in crappy adult books) but the words used within the show and the underlying message are easy enough that most fifth graders could figure out the point of what's going on. Or at least fifth graders who are actually educated properly, which may not be as many as we'd all like :(

Also, I think movies are for the most part the same way. I just didn't include them because I think most people spend way more time watching TV than movies. But either way if you look at most movies and especially most blockbusters, they're so dumbed down in their writing that it's really just sad.
highrising 4th-Apr-2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
are you stating that ya fiction isn't at 5th grade level?

harry potter is grade 4, at best.
profbutters 4th-Apr-2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
Book seven is definitely not for fourth grade.
highrising 5th-Apr-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
idk bro
maybe you weren't that good at reading in gr4
profbutters 5th-Apr-2012 05:04 am (UTC)
idk

how bright you are if you assume "professor"= "bro"

Reading comprehension fail.
highrising 5th-Apr-2012 05:11 am (UTC)
lol i didn't even look at your username

i just enjoy how 'idk bro' looks. there's a kind of symmetry to it.
prophecy_grl 4th-Apr-2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
I never said that. I never said anything about Harry Potter. What I said was that watching television does something similar to your brain that sleeping does, which is in no way nearly as engaging or healthy for your mind as reading a book. Period.
highrising 5th-Apr-2012 05:24 am (UTC)
"ia, but at the same time I'd rather see an adult reading Harry Potter than watching TV. TV has zero nuances (especially popular programming) and does zero for a person's brain. At least if people are reading even YA books, they're still reading and maybe even learning and engaging their brain."

hm, i suppose i just don't agree that any reading at all > television. i think that harry potter is basically garbage. but if Science says so, i suppose this conversation is moot.
prophecy_grl 5th-Apr-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
Well, I'd certainly rather have someone watch PBS than read Bill O'Reilly obviously, but the fact remains that reading is more engaging for your brain than watching TV. So even shitty books are still helpful because they get your brain working. Obviously the best option would be to read only good books, but lbr it's a miracle if some people read at all so I'm not going to shame them for not reading what my snobby ass thinks is a good book.
highrising 5th-Apr-2012 08:03 am (UTC)
ia that reading is generally more involving, but sometimes people don't understand what they're reading? i.e. there are loads of people who say that lolita is their favourite novel, but do they all understand that humbert is an abusive monster? tumblr would lead me to believe that the answer is no.

so if you read a book but don't actually engage with it, don't actually understand what the narrative is doing, is your brain actually being stimulated more than if you were to watch television? i don't know.

i think that reading fiction is ultimately just one of many ways to stimulate your brain. it works for me, but i don't know that it's for everyone.
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