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5:21 pm - 03/05/2012

"The rudest interviewee I've ever had"



The person I spoke with was Annie Clark. You might know her as St. Vincent. You might remember I previewed her upcoming return to New Zealand here.



Something was up as soon as we were connected. I was told twice that she could not hear me, it was a bad line. The line was fine. In fact I doubt I've ever had a clearer international phone line.

Thrown off a little by the insistence that the line was bad - when I could hear her every word, as if she was calling from next door -I battled on for a bit.

I tried to ask about the evolution of St. Vincent, three albums in. Now there was no need for the back-story that she had had to provide for albums one and two. The St. Vincent of album number three was an established solo artist - no need for her to have to show her credentials. The writing was frank and startling. She sounded more confident as a composer and performer.

My series of conversation-starters were met with a giant yawn - it was almost a comedy-yawn. It felt forced. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. It was, after all, early-ish in the morning for her.

She muttered that people should just read Wikipedia (thoughtfully I've provided the link for you, as I often do). And told me that she could not hear once again.

I asked her to tell me about her collaboration with David Byrne. She replied that, yes, she was collaborating with David Byrne. I asked how the album was coming together, when it would be released and how she and Byrne had met. I referenced David Byrne and Fatboy Slim's concept album about Imelda Marcos (St. Vincent is one of many guest vocalists) because I had the feeling she was going to tell me to look at Wikipedia once more.

She ignored me. There was silence. I asked her to clarify the writing/recording process with Byrne for the new album. Were they emailing tracks to one another, or meeting up to jam, were they writing separately and then sharing or writing together?

"Oh, who has time to jam, come on, don't be ridiculous!" She added a faux-shriek of mocking laughter. I thought I might offer a laugh and realised it would be wasted. We were not getting on side while this phone-call was happening! She then announced that it was pretty obvious they had been emailing tracks to one another. She said it in a way that felt like she was ignoring my original suggestion. She had, though, stopped telling me that she couldn't hear.

More silence. So I asked about her previous New Zealand trip - that had been a duo show, these next ones would be with a band. I asked about the band. She told me the instruments that this show would feature. She didn't want to say anything else.

She ignored a question about her guitar-playing influences. More silence. I asked if she was having trouble hearing me again. She said "No, what's your question?" I asked another question. Six or seven minutes into our 15-minute allocation (and it felt like a gruelling half-hour had passed) I politely thanked her for her time, apologised to her for the fact that she couldn't hear me, pointed out that I had heard here very clearly and told her that we were all looking forward to seeing the show.

I did this because my cue to get off the phone came in the form of a second yawn - this one louder than the first. No apology, no attempt to catch herself, or excuse herself, no reference to the fact that she yawned - just a very rude statement that she was trying her hardest to be difficult; her mind was made up that this was a waste of time and she would not be enjoying it.

She had an opportunity to discuss her career and tour with a fan - someone that had seen her play before and was genuinely passionate about her music. I decided to bow out with such a clear signal that she was not on board with the discussion. Most disappointing? It didn't even feel like someone being outwardly rude. It was worse. It felt like someone trying very hard to pantomime being very rude.

I wasn't going to write about the interview - I've told you basically everything that happened now anyway, so there's your interview whether you wanted it or not.

I decided I would share this because I heard from one of the other interviewers the next day; someone that had spoken to her just before I had. He had suffered every bit as much - maybe worse. He had heard her shouting at the phone-operator. It was clear to him that she figured he had left the conversation.

I assume that she had been caught on a day-off and was unaware that interviews had been booked. This sort of thing can happen. I assume that she decided she would make it as hard as she could for any interviewer that day. Or at least she started off playing the cranky card. Maybe she warmed into the day of interviews after the first couple.

St. Vincent will still play her New Zealand shows in a couple of weeks. She's playing Wellington and also Auckland.

I doubt I will go to the show now. I'm not sure I want to listen to her music ever again.

These are the sorts of bad days you have, occasionally, as a music-writer. And they're no fun at all. I feel like I wasted my words previewing her gig and hoping that I might get an interview with her.



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etched 5th-Mar-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
what a cunt.
invisible_cunt 5th-Mar-2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
mte
lostinshalott 5th-Mar-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
mte how awful.
sassandthecity 5th-Mar-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
I get where the writer is coming from because it would be super frustrating, but as a reporter myself, talking about how unprofessional someone else is in article only serves to make you look sort of unprofessional.
doperperson 5th-Mar-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
mte
faithgrowsold 5th-Mar-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
this.

Bitch about it to your friends, but don't write about it.
sassandthecity 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
If everybody bitched about things at the time, nobody would have anything for their memoir.
moddchicc 5th-Mar-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
IKR
mammary_glands 5th-Mar-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
i can imagine being really frustrated by this situation though, and feeling justified in revealing just how funky someone was being (especially if you really dug their music beforehand and were really looking forward to the interview).

messy all around, tbh.
neversquare 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
yeah just publish the article then write a shitty blog lol
lillyluna 5th-Mar-2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
This.
therearewords 5th-Mar-2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
I'm sure she talked about it with her editor first. If he said "Show the world what a shit stain she is" okay. If she took this into her own hands ..a bit risky.
gramfaernes 5th-Mar-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
I studied journalism in school as well, and while I wouldn't publish a pissy article about it, I have absolutely no sympathy for the interviewee in this situation. You don't act like a raging jackass to the person who is just trying to give you exposure.
judgmental 5th-Mar-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
Yep
supermodified 5th-Mar-2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
As a fellow reporter, I generally agree. Bitch about it in the newsroom. If a source for a news story wasn't willing to answer my questions, however, I'd make reference to what she wouldn't say because it would explain for the reader why I'm not able to fill those holes in the story.
saltireflower 5th-Mar-2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. Rage about it to friends and colleagues, but it's probably best not to make it public. Maybe the editor okayed it though? I do feel the writer's pain.
ms_mmelissa 5th-Mar-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
This.

I've seen great interviews where the interviewee came off as a total jackass and the interviewer spun it so that it was interesting and funny and well written and the interviewee looked like a moron. This was just boring, limp and whiny.
_underwhelmed 5th-Mar-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
idk if you're a writer isn't it your job to document what happened? it's not the interviewer's job to spin it like she was a half decent person to talk to. if she really was a wench, write about her being a wench
dirtyknife 5th-Mar-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
Agreed.
die2nitelive4ev 5th-Mar-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
exactly.
m_h_p 5th-Mar-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
In fairness, an interviewer is meant to give a truthful account of the interview. There's no sense in turning it into a PR puff piece.

Besides, an interviewer tends to be judged on the quality of their interviews. If an interviewee made it impossible to squeeze a decent article out of them, I'd feel the need to explain why.
berry_wish 6th-Mar-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
Yeah, but as a regular person I find it entertaining as hell to find out which artists are douches
fromahippie 6th-Mar-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
ia
bloblawslawblog 6th-Mar-2012 02:36 am (UTC)
Being gracious to fans is one of the things that goes along with being a performer. Someone that is a blatant douchecanoe needs a poke in the eye every so often.
mothflavour 6th-Mar-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
yeah, the writer comes off worse than her in this
spittingstars 6th-Mar-2012 07:35 am (UTC)
This is a blog on the original site. Blog =/= news story. You should know that (I certainly do & I'm a reporter as well).
lukemusik 6th-Mar-2012 07:56 am (UTC)
This guy is a moron, so take what he says with a grain of salt.

About a month ago he completely trashed some of New Zealand's most popular local bands (Six60, Kora, The Black Seeds) and then he went on to basically shit on the whole "New Zealand Reggae" genre (that's what I'm calling it anyway, he was so reductive to call it "Barbecue music"). The quality of music coming from that genre is actually very high, but this idiot thinks that because he doesn't like a genre that all of the music is sub par.

Basically he's a narrow minded shit who thinks he is the ultimate fucking decider of taste. Like, no. You're a blogger for a fucking news website in New Zealand. Nothing wrong with that, but know where you are in the pecking order.

(here's his article http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/blog-on-the-tracks/6218614/Six60-Killing-music-since-2006)
motorwill 6th-Mar-2012 10:15 pm (UTC)
Maybe the writer's an amateur? I'd expect a professional to be proficient in character assassination, & at the very least keep it in the third person, remove all personal references, and title it as something like 'whatshername lashes out at press', so it wouldn't read like an LJ diary.
ilikeandrewbird 5th-Mar-2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
okay, I planned on reading this with an open mind. But when it starts out with:

"Something was up as soon as we were connected. I was told twice that she could not hear me, it was a bad line. The line was fine. In fact I doubt I've ever had a clearer international phone line.
Thrown off a little by the insistence that the line was bad - when I could hear her every word, as if she was calling from next door -I battled on for a bit."

...Then the interviewer already has a point against them.


Edited at 2012-03-05 10:26 pm (UTC)
ilikeandrewbird 5th-Mar-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
3 paragraphs in and interviewer in still complaining that she cant hear and is answering questions that makes it seem like she couldnt hear the question


seriously? how does this interviewer have a job? what an ass.

SHE CANT HEAR YOU DUDE. Why wont he understand this?
simplychristina 5th-Mar-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
Because the interviewer thinks she is lying.
lillyluna 5th-Mar-2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
BUT HE COULD HEAR HER!!!

It's so ridiculous.
mothflavour 6th-Mar-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
seriously. it makes it seem like she just missed the questions. this guy sounds like a douche.
rimbaudacious 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
I don't get the point that the interviewer is trying to make with that. Like why so pressed? I've had my mum hang up on me over a 'bad connection' when I could hear her very clearly... does this make my mum an undercover asshole?
vonlisbon 5th-Mar-2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
I admit that part was really off-putting and kind of stupid to complain about but the rest of it is pure rudeness on her end. The yawning, ignoring questions, and answering a legit question with "lol r u dumb *cackle*" is pretty shitty regardless.
ms_mmelissa 5th-Mar-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
This pretty much. Who hasn't had a line where they could hear the other person perfectly, but the reverse wasn't true?
sweet_honesty 6th-Mar-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
I don't know if the interviewer has ever used a phone. Sometimes I can't hear the person when they can hear me just fine. Also if she was using a headset or speaker phone...no wonder Annie Clark couldn't hear her.
lack_ofcolour 6th-Mar-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
Yeah, that fact is pretty weird. I work at a call center, and when people claim they can't hear me well (whether they're lying or not), I always offer to call back. It just seems like common sense. I'd have more sympathy for the interviewer if he had made an attempt to re-schedule or call back. That's not so hard to do.

Though, this chick does sound like a twat (saying to read her Wiki, etc.).
mammary_glands 5th-Mar-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
ew

i still like her music though, and her hair gives me life. bad form, though, annie.
ilikeandrewbird 5th-Mar-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
did you even read the interview?!
mammary_glands 5th-Mar-2012 10:31 pm (UTC)
uh, yes?
fashionbabylon 5th-Mar-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
gurl you are pressed in this post
chandyland11 5th-Mar-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
whitegirlmob 5th-Mar-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
I agree with you.
invisible_cunt 5th-Mar-2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
my hair looks like hers when it's cut short enough!
smnp very bitchy5th-Mar-2012 10:27 pm (UTC)
but then again why interview a wannabe indie with attitude?
robotpotatoes Re: very bitchy5th-Mar-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
giving mad T here.
muse_misery Re: very bitchy6th-Mar-2012 07:35 pm (UTC)
Yup.
stylestunna 5th-Mar-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
I would never think she's as rude of a person as the writer is making her out to be, idk. I am a huge fan of her music. Might just act like I've never read this tbh.
gbeastly 5th-Mar-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Yikes. What's her problem?
chandyland11 5th-Mar-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
candycanegrl 5th-Mar-2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
best gif. of all time
scarletfbl 5th-Mar-2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
This is so cute, omg.
palmthejoker 5th-Mar-2012 11:53 pm (UTC)
This is a fun noise to make when playing Clue, lol.
karinette001 6th-Mar-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
best part of Puss In Boots
blocpartyaddict 5th-Mar-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
uhm who even is this?
false_hate 5th-Mar-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
Indie artist with poor interview skills.

babydiego 6th-Mar-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
lol wtf is this
kurtvonnegut 5th-Mar-2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
turn off the radio

she's really not that obscure...
deirdreextreme 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
how cru-ooh-oooh-oooh-eeel of her
distant_lines 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
Girl, you are not important enough to even think you can pull off being this big of a bitch.
sprinklebell 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
starbucks music. don't care
scarletfbl 5th-Mar-2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
Pretty much. I only like "Stars Align." Everything else can gtfo, until I'm buying a latte, or some shit.
rubybruiseday 5th-Mar-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
lol so true.
rockpaperspray 5th-Mar-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
lmfao perfect
negative_fucker 6th-Mar-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
Lol, No one would say this kind of shit about her music if she were a man.
sprinklebell 6th-Mar-2012 12:23 am (UTC)
not true for me
sergeant_duckie 6th-Mar-2012 01:45 am (UTC)
lmfao
alacrities 6th-Mar-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
lmao
neversquare 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
why do so many rock/indie musicians think they're above interviews? idgi its not that fucking hard
mammary_glands 5th-Mar-2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
haha, seriously. i'd love to see how she handles a nardwuar interview tbh. that really shows a musicians ass, imo.
gbeastly 5th-Mar-2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
YES!

I love me some Narduar. And yeah, checking out their Narduar interview (if they have one) is a good judge of whether they are actually awesome or not.
milkradio 6th-Mar-2012 03:54 am (UTC)
Nardwuar's the best interviewer! He actually does a lot of great research and asks interesting questions, even if he's weird as hell lmao. I love his interviews with Snoop Dogg lol. "I'ma take this..."
ilikeandrewbird 5th-Mar-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
when you're a musician, you have to do 500,000 interviews

about 3/4 of them are just beyond terrible. The interviewer rarely spends even 5 minutes researching you, the questions are redundant, and it's just ridiculous. It sounds like it was early in the morning, the connection sucked, and he wasn't very interesting.

While I dont even think she acted poorly, I completely understand why some musicians finally roll their eyes during interviews.
the_pinkdress 5th-Mar-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
i really hate the attitude artists have towards interviews nowadays. it's rare to see someone who is chill and engaged in the conversation-- instead people have to act like they're ~above it all~. Worse are the comments on YouTube videos like "omg this interviewer is soooo dumb lol". It's like, they're doing their fucking job and being nice enough to ask whoever it is about their project so you can get publicity.
vamparacely 6th-Mar-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
I know!! And these interviews are really for their own benefit. Yes, it's good for the website/magazine, but really it's just for press for them. I've had to deal with Lykke Li and she's like this too.
juunanagou18 5th-Mar-2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
People who don't cover their yawns when speaking to others are the worst. Even more so on the phone. I can understand when a big one hits you by surprise, but you can turn your head, try to feign surprise in the middle, or just plain excuse yourself afterwards. I don't even yawn when someone is boring me or being annoying.
distant_lines 5th-Mar-2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
I have learned how to yawn in a way that doesn't look like a yawn, specifically because I don't want people to think I'm bored or something.
stepliana 5th-Mar-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
I learned to yawn with my mouth closed after my ballet teacher threw me out of class for 'looking bored'.
scarletfbl 5th-Mar-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
mte.
iluvdykes 5th-Mar-2012 10:34 pm (UTC)
Agreed. As a cashier, I've had people yawn in my face as I get ready to say, Hello. It's like, "Really? If you feel so tired why are you here? Ignore the sale and go home because your sleepy ass is going to fuck up my register with using credit card, reward points and finally cash. Either pay with one or the other. If you do two or more the chances of me fucking your money up raises.

/coolstory

I have a lot of feelings. :-(
muzicnem 5th-Mar-2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
Yawns aren't necessarily the result of boredom though. No one knows why people yawn for sure although there are some theories out there. My microbiology teacher was awesome bc she believed--based on research she had read--that yawns were actually a way of humans making an attempt to pay attention so she never took them as an insult but rather a compliment, lol.
vonlisbon 5th-Mar-2012 10:31 pm (UTC)
Well c u next tuesday then ma'am
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