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11:43 pm - 01/08/2012

Is the worst baby name of the century actually about something far more sinister?



Is Ivy Blue Latin for Lucifer's Daughter?



On January 8, 2012, ABC News reported that Beyonce and husband Jay-Z welcomed a baby girl named Ivy Blue.   Born Beyonce Giselle Knowles, the singing diva is no stranger to unusual names.  Her husband’s birth name is Shawn Corey Carter but the world better knows this successful entrepreneur, rapper, and producer as “Jay-Z.”  Maybe it shouldn’t come as  a surprise that the couple chose to name their baby Ivy Blue, which is far more conservative than some other baby names, such as the unusual selection by Gwyneth Paltrow of “Apple” or the bizarre choice of “Pilot Inspektor” by Jason Lee, or Jermaine Jackson’s son “Jermajesty.”  What might be more surprising than the name choice, is the way social media networking sites have responded to Beyonce’s baby’s name.  Spreading like wildfire on Twitter is the topic “Eulb Yvi is Latin for Lucifer’s daughter.”  The suggestion is that “Ivy Blue” backwards is "Eulb Yvi," and means “Lucifer’s daughter” in Latin. Another proposal is that Blue stands for "Born Living Under Evil" and that Ivy stands for "Illuminati's Very Youngest."

Is there any truth to this Internet rumor?  Do the words “Yvi” and “Elub” hold some secret, satanic meaning to the most diabolical of Satan worshipers?  Does Lucifer have a daughter and if so, who is she?   Are there written records of “Lucifer’s daughter” that have survived the ages and serve as the basis for some underground occult movement?  On the other hand, is this just an Internet rumor that has caused a firestorm of speculation and most likely  offense to the new proud parents?

The Bible makes no mention of Lucifer having a daughter, as Lucifer was the name of Satan when he was still in his glorified form as the main archangel in heaven.  There is also great controversy as to whether angels are capable of having sex.  Since Lucifer is a fallen angel, he would fall under the category of an angel in terms of reproduction.  One line of thought that has caused some to think that angels can have sex and reproduce is in Genesis chapter 6.

Genesis 6:1-2 King James Version reads, “ 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”  Some Bible scholars translate “sons of God” to be “fallen angels.”  The theological reasoning event extends to the belief that fallen angels impregnated human women and the offspring were monstrous giants that wreaked havoc and wickedness on the earth, prompting God to kill all living things through Noah’s flood.  Only those who boarded the ark were saved.”

The passage continues in Genesis 6:4, “4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

The other belief is that the Bible teaches that angels cannot reproduce.  However, there is no specific proof of this in Scripture.  Luke 20: 34-36 describes an encounter where Jesus was asked who a specific woman would be married to after the resurrection.  Jesus compared resurrected humans to angels that “neither marry, nor are given in marriage.”  Some theologians interpret this to mean that angels do not have sexual relations.

“34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:

 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

 36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.”

 It is unclear, however, whether they are incapable of sexual relations.  Some go further to suggest that angels do not have gender, but the Bible clearly refers to masculine angels such as Lucifer, Gabriel, and Michael the Archangel.  Though there is no direct mention of female angels in the Bible, there is reference to female “winged creatures” in Zechariah.

Zechariah 5:9, “34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:

 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

 36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.”

Though the Bible doesn’t specifically state whether angels can reproduce, there is no mention in Scripture of Lucifer having a daughter. 

As for the words, “Eulb Yvi” meaning “Lucifer’s daughter” in Latin, there is no indication that these words translated have any Latin meaning whatsoever.  You may check at the online Latin dictionary by Babylon for either word and find there is no match. 

There are reports, however, that the “I and V” in Ivy may stand for the Roman numeral “IV” which means 4.  The number four has had a great impact on the couple’s life as they were married on April 4, 2008 (4/4/08), Jay Z was born on December 4, 1969, and Beyonce was born on September 4, 1981.  In 2011, she recorded the album “4.”

As for Ivy Blue being translated “Lucifer’s daughter” backwards, there is no fact to this rumor



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moddchicc 9th-Jan-2012 08:09 am (UTC)
LMAO that pic
diosabellissima 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
I spent hours** making that. Thank you for appreciating it.

**minutes.
animalyears 9th-Jan-2012 08:19 am (UTC)
omg your icon
loveology101 9th-Jan-2012 08:19 am (UTC)
A++++ GOOD JOB!!
goonunit 9th-Jan-2012 08:49 am (UTC)
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO BEST PICTURE EVER
myxwill 9th-Jan-2012 08:53 am (UTC)
IT'S BEAUTEOUS.
lninchy89 9th-Jan-2012 10:06 am (UTC)
lol A+
grande_latte 9th-Jan-2012 08:09 am (UTC)
But the anti christ is really Suri Cruise tho
unluckythirteen 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
something katie holmes says to herself every single day.
onyxobsidian 9th-Jan-2012 08:38 am (UTC)
I feel like Katie resents Suri for outshining her.
biggerfun 9th-Jan-2012 08:29 am (UTC)
But the Illuminati anti-christ > Scientology anti-christ tbh
luvthatdrtywata 9th-Jan-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
Suri wishes. She'd be lucky to be a demon child-in-waiting for the great baby Eulb Yvi.
unluckythirteen 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
wait... SHE WAS BORN IN 1981?!

she looks so much older! holy shit!
twattyseahag 9th-Jan-2012 08:37 am (UTC)
i'm older than beyonce and i look like her teenage sister

sucks
unluckythirteen 9th-Jan-2012 08:40 am (UTC)
i'm 29. i get told all the time i look 23.

beyonce though, i coulda swore she was in her mid-thirties.
sir 9th-Jan-2012 09:16 am (UTC)
GORGEOUS icon
feminist icon + my husband
green__desire 9th-Jan-2012 11:57 am (UTC)
Nothing SUCKS about aging slower and being more evolved than other people.
pistol_eyes 9th-Jan-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
sucks? really?

I think of it as a compliment when people say I look a lot younger (it happens often) than what I am.
velveteenkitten 9th-Jan-2012 08:44 am (UTC)
I'm 26 and people still think I'm 16. I hate it as it means people don't take me seriously or they doubt my ability to make decisions.
kapuki234 9th-Jan-2012 08:57 am (UTC)
i'm more wtf at marrying jay z who's 12 years older
jeugd1 9th-Jan-2012 09:29 am (UTC)
no don't get it twisted, that's her fake age
Bey was actually born in 1975, she is 36

I GOT PROOF!!!

Edited at 2012-01-09 09:31 am (UTC)
marmar627 9th-Jan-2012 10:57 am (UTC)
I've heard rumors for years that she's at least five years older, and I don't have a problem believing them. You know Tina and Mathew would throw down if anyone let that out so I can believe it's being covered up.
hellb 9th-Jan-2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
I'll vouch that's a bunch of shit and she's at least 5 years older than that--female celebs lie about their ages all the time....(usually their agents/publicists advice, etc.)
rhyana 9th-Jan-2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
At one time the birth records for Texas were available online. Someone took these, and made it look like she was born in 1975. I was curious, went and looked. She was born in 1981. I'm not sure if it's still available on Ancestry, but there was another site that also had them. Unfortunately, the other site has deleted the PDFs.
so_chic_doll 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
here go hell come
lilienveigh 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
lol @ that pic
diosabellissima 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
TY TY bb. It's the reason for this post tbh
devours 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
lmfaoooooo
mhfromnh 10th-Jan-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
can't do it eh?
anchors_oceans 9th-Jan-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
STOP. I CAN'T EVEN.
gl0ry_fadesx 9th-Jan-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
omg LOL
goofusgallant 9th-Jan-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
This post comes up just as I'm about to go to bed.
I think I'll stay around for a bit...
williammiller 9th-Jan-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
Ivy Blue / Blue Ivy is a horrible name D:
v_x_2 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
that pic is scary!!

i thought beyonce is way older like 35..?

they over think this way too much
hellomeru 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
omg that pic is terrifying
wickedmynx 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
I love these posts!!

allie_said 9th-Jan-2012 08:14 am (UTC)
omg rachel!
i miss watching the live cams of last season on showtime so much
animalyears 9th-Jan-2012 08:18 am (UTC)
that looks like kate hudson with her new nose and all
shantayustay 9th-Jan-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
Kill it with fire.
iamglory 9th-Jan-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
THIS
lostwithme 9th-Jan-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
MY QUEEN <3
nimberlane 9th-Jan-2012 08:20 am (UTC)
lol this crazy bitch is going to be on The Amazing Race this coming season. I'm expecting an utter trainwreck.
h0tlikemxrejoic 9th-Jan-2012 08:30 am (UTC)
omg love her!!!
flawlessvelvet 9th-Jan-2012 01:01 pm (UTC)
QUEEN RED!!!

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stunner_shades 9th-Jan-2012 04:52 pm (UTC)
YES
allie_said 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
The suggestion is that “Ivy Blue” backwards is "Eulb Yvi," and means “Lucifer’s daughter” in Latin.

kind of creepy ngl
allie_said 9th-Jan-2012 08:15 am (UTC)
oh well then nvm lol
vehiclesshockme 9th-Jan-2012 08:17 am (UTC)
Isn't "Lucifer" Latin for "Lucifer" ? :-X And it's "morning star" or something along those lines.
nimberlane 9th-Jan-2012 08:21 am (UTC)
lol ikr I cannot with this shit
in_styles 9th-Jan-2012 08:56 am (UTC)
lmao
paarycia 9th-Jan-2012 10:34 am (UTC)
lol thank you
I've studied in Latin in junior high/high school (I'm legit, y'all lol) and I've been side-eyeing this so-called translation on tumblr.
muip 9th-Jan-2012 08:33 am (UTC)
Neither "Ivy Blue" nor the backwards/sideways/upside down/diagonal version means shit in Latin.

And the fact that even my insufficient and VERY rusty Latin is more than enough to know that should tell you something right there.

This "Illuminati name!!!!!!!111" thing is so cheaply made-up that I hope that once people see (considering it's ridiculously easy to find out) that there is no truth whatsoever to those claims they won't be so stupid/gullible anymore and cool it with the rest of the Illuminati shit as well.

But maybe I'm over-estimating those people's intelligence, idk.
grande_latte 9th-Jan-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
The picture looks more like jay and rihanna than beyonce
diosabellissima 9th-Jan-2012 08:14 am (UTC)
Girl, it's just Jay Z with some eyeliner Photoshopped onto the old nun on the Devil Inside poster. I didn't even do it fancy-- just blurred the edged a lil bit so the wrinkle face mixed with his heh
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