ONTD

1:41 pm - 12/30/2011

softening and sexualizing lisbeth salander



The casting for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo’s Lisbeth Salander was a long and arduous fight for Rooney Mara. She didn’t have the same clout as the big-name actresses circling the role. David Fincher himself wasn’t sure that she was right. Telling off Mark Zuckerberg in The Social Network wasn’t enough; the actress had to battle through a series of auditions and prove to the filmmaker that she was right for the role – that she was prepared for the challenging scenes she would have to partake in.

Now Mara’s Americanized Salander is hitting theaters and grabbing rave reviews from American critics enamored with the character’s evolution into a more relatable and tough heroine. But is it really a better, or equally powerful performance? Or, more precisely – since the new Lisbeth Salander is not just a creation of Mara’s, but of director Fincher and screenwriter Steven Zaillian – does the American characterization of Salander really invoke the spirit of Larsson’s creation, or does it fall prey to the pitfalls that plague Hollywood’s artistic output?

Stieg Larsson and ‘Men Who Hate Women’

Swedish-born Stieg Larsson (1954-2004) was a man of many hats, including activist, writer, and journalist. He fought against right-wing extremism, racism, and sexism, leading him to create the story of Mikael Blomkvist (intrepid, moral journalist) and Lisbeth Salander (fierce victim of sexist men). But it wasn’t only politics that inspired Larsson.

As Kurdo Baski revealed in 2010, Larsson was haunted by a dark memory. In the summer of 1969, when he was camping with friends at the age of fifteen, he saw three of his friends rape a girl he knew. Her name was Lisbeth. “Her screams were heartrending, but he didn’t intervene. His loyalty to his friends was too strong. He was too young, too insecure. It was inevitable that he would realize afterwards that he could have acted and possibly prevented the rape.”

Larsson was haunted by his failure to act, inspiring the creation of Lisbeth Salander – the woman who survives in spite of men’s inadequacies.
He was also fueled by the continual, perpetual violence against women, such as the 2001 murders of Melissa Nordell (a model murdered by her boyfriend for breaking up with him) and Fadime Sahindal (a Swedish-Kurdish woman murdered by her father because she wanted to lead her own life), and Sweden’s polarizing, unsolved murder and mutilation of prostitute Catrine da Costa in the ‘80s. Larsson told his friend: “There’s no such thing as soft or hard oppression of women: men want to own women, they want to control women, they are afraid of women. Men hate women.” He, therefore, refused to change the title of the first novel – Men Who Hate Women – though translated texts and films didn’t follow suit. These books were his way of responding and dealing with all of the imbalance and injustice he saw in the world.

The Millennium Trilogy

In 2008, four years after the author’s death, Danish filmmaker Niels Arden Oplev teamed up with Noomi Rapace and Michael Nyqvist to bring the world of Salander and Blomkvist to life. With Oplev in charge of the first, and director Daniel Alfredson stepping in for the second and third parts, the story was outlined in three long television miniseries subsequently cut into smaller feature films.

Though the adaptation made some changes, Lisbeth Salander remained the same – a strong and solitary woman almost universally mistreated by those near her, a woman with a photographic memory who can never forget the terrible things she sees and experiences. Violence against women infuses every part of her life; it defines her existence as well as the world that revolves around her: “By the time she was eighteen, Salander did not know a single girl who at some point had not been forced to perform some sort of sexual act against her will. … In her world, this was the natural order of things. As a girl she was legal prey, especially if she was dressed in a worn black leather jacket and had pierced eyebrows, tattoos, and zero social status.”

Lisbeth is cold, distant, and presumably autistic, though we’ll never know because she doesn’t trust shrinks, cops, or any authority figure. At the same time, she has the ability, as Larsson described it, to “get under the skin of the person she was investigating.” Lisbeth is alien in her looks and action (“a foreign creature” as described in the novels) due to how she’s been treated, but she’s also human.

In a video interview on the extended version discs (a must-buy for fans and those curious about who Salander is) Rapace talks about merging Lisbeth with herself, allowing her to completely and utterly understand and embody Lisbeth. Her Salander has a rigid gaze, a silent face that speaks to her discomfort and the chinks in her armor that reveal a woman in crisis. Rapace warped her body to look more masculine, to appear like the slight, easily misjudged Salander. She’s sexual, but not sexualized; she has vulnerabilities without being vulnerable; she cares for people without ever seeming warm or romantic. She’s an enigma to the modern moviegoer, and we’re the better for the challenge of knowing her, the challenge of not understanding her.

Pre-Fincher Press

The first teaser poster for Mara’s Americanized Lisbeth showed Daniel Craig’s Mikael holding her half-naked form close, protecting her as she held onto him. This one image immediately coded him as the troubled girl’s tough protector. Her image was further tarnished by the R-rated version full of bare breasts and sexual intrigue. Lisbeth became the objectified and sexualized heroine, the goth punk Bond girl saved by 007 himself.

Sadly, the leads didn’t see the problem. Daniel Craig liked it because Mara “looks great. I think it sort of really illustrates the two characters in the movie very well.” Then Mara defended it, asserting that “people have a hard time with strong females and with nudity. … It’s just a teaser poster. I think it did just that. It teased people.” Now Lisbeth was a sexual tease, and it was okay because she looked good doing it.

Rapace’s fully clothed Salander was replaced with Mara’s sexy Lisbeth – baring her cleavage for the camera, baring her ass for a tattoo, standing in front of a wintry landscape topless, straddling a bike in underwear and tights, or posing in a tutu. (All can be seen in Movies.com’s Image Gallery.) The woman fighting against objectification had become a sexual commodity to the public at large. Eventually, the marketing material changed focus, but it was too late – Salander was already made into the sex object. She had become another female ass-kicker swathed in sexy, revealing clothing, balancing tough smarts with alluring sexiness.

David Fincher’s ‘The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo’

If Larsson’s books didn’t exist, if there was never a Swedish version and no one knew who Lisbeth Salander was, Fincher’s Dragon Tattoo would be a great bridge to something more. It mixes typical female characterizations with a harsh toughness that begins to break out of that rigid mold. As it stands, however, Fincher and Mara’s Lisbeth must co-exist with Larsson’s creation and Rapace’s apt portrayal.

There are improvements. Mara embodies Larsson’s Whedonesque vision of an ass-kicker you’d discount because of her appearance. She certainly has “doll-like, almost delicate limbs, small hands, and hardly any hips.” You’d be more surprised by Mara showing physical prowess than the muscular Rapace (though that musculature certainly helped the Swedish actress look more “boyish”). Mara’s Salander gets more to do on-screen. We see her work more, and we see how she’s an outsider at work. There is also a nice forcefulness to her words that shows the strength behind her slightness.

But Mara’s Lisbeth is an entirely different woman, and while some differences are welcome between interpretations, it’s chilling to see what Fincher and Co. changed. A tar-filled opening credit sequence is a metaphor for the inner Salander, giving her a muddled and messy inner persona rather than the meticulous, photographic mind she has, one that solves complex math theorems and mysteries. Fincher removes the suffocating, repetitive sense that Lisbeth is prey. Bjurman starts off warm and seemingly logical. In comparison, Lisbeth appears like a rude, antisocial child spurning honest help. Mara’s version snarls before he gives her reason to. When she then gets attacked in the subway, it’s not a physical, sexual attack; one man merely steals her bag.

This is a subtle but important difference. Rapace reacts rather than instigates. There’s an unwritten understanding that she can’t go to the police. We see that her moments of self-defense are always misjudged. Her “helpers” abuse her. We see how the outside treats her as the sexual prey Larsson outlined.

Mara’s Lisbeth is seen through a Hollywood filter. She’s sexy, tough, in-your-face, always belligerent, and childishly snarky. Instead of t-shirts about aliens and Armageddon, hers are laden with cheap, Hot Topic-esque f-bombs. In one moment when Lisbeth wears a disguise, Fincher has her strip down to her expensive and revealing underwear. We watch her walk around like a Hollywood bombshell from the neck down, rather than a troubled girl so uncomfortable in her skin after years of abuse that “what she saw in the mirror was a thin, tattooed girl in grotesque underwear.” The Lisbeth who saw “her skinny body as repulsive,” but still had “the same desires and sex drive as every other woman” has become the modern femme fatale.

Lisbeth and Mikael in Dragon Tattoo

Larsson’s Salander is not a lesbian (as some viewers have seen her) set “straight” by Blomkvist’s manly ways. She commands her sexual encounters because she can’t bring herself to be vulnerable. She has learned to always have control, yet Fincher has Blomkvist quickly flip her over during sex and take command, as if Lisbeth is ready for a father figure, partner, and savior. When they later have sweet sex in grand romantic tradition, she becomes a romantic figure who softens as she takes on an older man of guidance.

In a pivotal moment in the book, Lisbeth says: “I’m going to take him” and runs off as Blomkvist tries “to shout to her to wait.” In Fincher’s film, she asks him for permission, and only acts with his blessing. Perhaps we can accept the changes in how Mara presents Salander. But it’s unacceptable to take a woman made into a phenomenon because of her solitary strength and particular moral compass and drive, and turn her into a romantic girl saved and guided by a man.

The final scene of the film sledgehammers this idea home if the rest of the subtle and obvious changes to Salander do not. Both end on the same note, but it means wildly different things on the page and screen. On the page, there’s an air of miscommunication – the reader can see both side’s motivations for what arises and how it’s all a sad comedy of errors. On screen, every sexy, romantic addition makes the final moments all about villains and victimization, especially when matched with a whimsical, child-like score. Lisbeth loses her agency.

The Critical Reaction

The critics have noticed the change, their comments reframing the appeal of Salander. Studying over 100 reviews seen on Rotten Tomatoes and elsewhere, almost every film critic that mentions Mara’s portrayal and Lisbeth as a character misunderstands her. “Vulnerable” comes up time and time again, as does “soft.” Eight even describe Lisbeth as feral, as if she’s an animal needing to be tamed by Blomkvist. As our Erik Davis summed it up: “she will turn you on and kick you in the face at the same time.”

The sex, the softness, the widely un-Salander comments continue through most reviews. Wesley Morris notes her “sense of decorum” and calls her a “doll of danger,” and “both a feminist fantasy and a male fantasy.” Anne Hornaday calls Mara’s Lisbeth a “fierce, brooding creature whose feral intensity proves as alluring as it is menacing.” Rene Rodriguez calls her a “vulnerable, almost child-like person,” while Gary Thompson believes that she “craves a father figure.” She’s seen as a “knockout,” “the epitome of cool,” “flashier” yet “diminutive,” “desperately fragile,” an “alluring outcast,” “more nude” and able to “warm up” and give off a “ripely kinky, menacing glow;” she’s “a woman enough for the guys, as you’ll see when she bares all.” Mark Rabinowitz thinks he’s “in love” with her.

Mikael and Lisbeth are often referred to as a couple or romantic pair. As Andrew O’Hehir summarizes, “Mara’s Lisbeth is voluptuous, spectacular nude, and Blomkvist literally can’t believe his good luck.” Damon Wise calls the film more about “broken hearts than broken people.” Brian Orndorf describes her progression as a character who “thaws,” and he’s “triumphantly sold through Mara’s warm-blooded sexual forwardness.” To David Germain, Blomkvist is the “anchor” Lisbeth “revolves like a demon” to have what Peter Keough calls “the hottest sex scene of the year,” though some, like Joe Lozito, luckily note that “she’s far too quick to play house with Blomkvist” in a relationship “reduced to the worst kind of pillow talk.”

Conclusion

Fincher’s Lisbeth is not Larsson’s. She is sexualized, softened, romanticized, and less empowered. Whether he intended this or not, it’s what countless critics see in the film; they don’t mind it – in fact most like it – but they’ve recognized it and have written about it.

There seems to be a relief that Mara’s Salander is a more relatable person, that classic “female” tropes like softness and vulnerability are visible. It speaks to society’s overwhelming discomfort with the unclassifiable, whether it’s a person’s sexuality, a terrible people who does good things, or the motivations of a young woman who has been horrifically mistreated, mentally and physically, for decades.

Yet the entire point is that Lisbeth doesn’t seem real to the regular Joe or Jane walking down the street. Even those closest to her don’t truly understand her. She’s got the double-whammy of an autistic mind and a hellish life with experiences we can’t begin to fathom. We’re not supposed to understand her, or lust after her. As A. O. Scott noted in his review: “We see all of Ms. Mara and quite a bit less of Mr. Craig, whose naked torso is by now an eyeful of old news. This disparity is perfectly conventional – the exploitation of female nudity is an axiom of modern cinema – but it also represents a failure of nerve and a betrayal of the sexual egalitarianism Lisbeth Salander argues for and represents.”

And if nothing else, any portrayal of Lisbeth Salander shouldn’t inspire the following words:

“The film was not made by men who hate women, but certainly by men who are more comfortable with women as love interests for male heroes” (Lozito).


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What are your thoughts, ONTD? How do the films and the book compare? And ew omg @ some of these critics. Also this is my first post ever omg.

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isntdaveone 30th-Dec-2011 10:09 pm (UTC)
rave reviews?
muip 30th-Dec-2011 11:25 pm (UTC)
ikr - for Fincher's remake/version?? DAFUCKOUTTAHERE
etoile_amore 30th-Dec-2011 10:10 pm (UTC)
I still can`t get over how much I loved Rooney Mara in this.
Watching the Swedish version, Noomi bothered me because she was not at all what I pictured Lisbeth as. But omg, Rooney was SO on point.
lauracoy 30th-Dec-2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
I saw it last night, I'm still recovering from THAT scene tbh.
absolute_fury 31st-Dec-2011 01:21 am (UTC)
oh man which one?! (I found the revenge to be far more brutal)
betelgeuse 30th-Dec-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
i love both portrayals for different reasons. rooney's was more complex and closer to the book but noomi's was almost a bad-ass superhero (which is the film's fault, not rapace's)
showmesara 31st-Dec-2011 12:36 am (UTC)
I feel exactly opposite. Noomi nailed that part for me and Rooney was just... not as good imo
bighype 30th-Dec-2011 10:10 pm (UTC)
let me get this straight... larsson saw a girl getting raped... didn't do anything about it... and instead wrote a book with a character inspired by this girl and made money off it?
wow.
notoriousreign 30th-Dec-2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
That just does not sit well with me man. =/
300psychosis 30th-Dec-2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
You did not get it straight though.
calcified 30th-Dec-2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Isn't that exactly what is said though? Like yes, ignoring that he feels bad about it but still... who wouldn't.
bighype 30th-Dec-2011 10:20 pm (UTC)
p sure i did.
calcified 30th-Dec-2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
I K R CHRIST
x_butterfly19_x 30th-Dec-2011 10:16 pm (UTC)
He felt guilty and the book was some kind of cathartic atonement, is what I read.

I think I read, anyway
scientist 30th-Dec-2011 10:17 pm (UTC)
seriously? i didn't know that D:

W O W
eatyouramen 30th-Dec-2011 10:18 pm (UTC)
my mom pointed this out, so much hate
piscesvstaurus 30th-Dec-2011 10:23 pm (UTC)
I wonder if the real Lisbeth knows/knew?
theratwhispers 30th-Dec-2011 10:23 pm (UTC)
He died before the books were ever published.
arcadiaego 30th-Dec-2011 10:26 pm (UTC)
Well he's dead now so he's not spending it.
queencleopatra 30th-Dec-2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
He didn't make ANY money because he died before the books were published. >.>
lanuitdete 30th-Dec-2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
he made no money off of this book. it was more of a way to bring about awareness about sexual assault issues in sweden.
ms_mmelissa 30th-Dec-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
Yep, the book is incredibly terrible and has these weird graphic rape sequences and is basically like torture porn. The rejectionist wrote a great take down of the character if anyone is interested:

Lisbeth Salander is skinny. Frail-skinny, bird-boned skinny, so that when you fuck Lisbeth Salander you think: Not so tough. I could break you. Fuckable damaged girls are always skinny in books by men; fat girls are a different kind of damaged. Which is to say, unlovable. Remember that, the next time you tell someone Lisbeth Salander is strong.

http://www.therejectionist.com/2011/12/eleven-thoughts-about-lisbeth-salander.html
lauracoy 30th-Dec-2011 10:38 pm (UTC)
I think I read he was a kid, or a teenager when it happened... changes it a bit if it's true.
tuesdayfternoon 30th-Dec-2011 10:48 pm (UTC)
Ikr, regardless of how much money was donated to what.... I cannot bring myself to be near these books or movies because all I can think of is that poor woman.
sandvich 30th-Dec-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
He was a fifteen-year-old kid when it happened. I'm not going to defend him for not stopping it, but it obviously haunted him throughout his life and inspired his activism -- he wasn't profiteering off of the real Lisbeth's rape or just recycling it for his fiction, he was trying to draw awareness to the terrible problem that is sexual violence against women. In real life, he trained women in third-world nations to defend themselves with weapons and martial arts. He wrote tons of critical, vicious exposes on the rise of white nationalism in Sweden. He was a fuckin' cool guy and while I don't think it's ever excusable to not intervene in a situation like that, he spent his life trying to stop it from happening to other girls. The fiction is just an extension of that.

And the books were published after his death, so he didn't ever see a dime of the profits anyway.
crazyventures 30th-Dec-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
He didn't make money off it because he was already dead when the books were published
betelgeuse 30th-Dec-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
yeah, it's terrible.
kaelstra 30th-Dec-2011 10:54 pm (UTC)
In fairness, he was 15 and witnessed a gang rape of a girl. It was probably a really shitty position to be in.

If I'd witnessed something like that, I wouldn't have gotten directly involved either, but I would have gone and called the police as soon as I possibly could.
expromqueen 30th-Dec-2011 10:58 pm (UTC)
if ppl weren't allowed to write about horrible things they witnessed and/or experienced then there would be no books. his books clearly indicate his disapproval of the treatment of women by sexual psychopaths. i bet he wished he had done something about it, and the books were prob his way of dealing w/ those feelings
josh_the_k 30th-Dec-2011 11:10 pm (UTC)
Maybe he listened to "In The Air Tonight" a few too many times.
siri_greene 31st-Dec-2011 01:12 am (UTC)
i think he badly wished that he had done something at that time. But he didn't, so he built this fictional world around this girl and gave her an alternative ending to soothe his own conscience and deal with the guilt. the money was probably not on his mind.
therealspm 31st-Dec-2011 03:08 am (UTC)
He died shortly after turning in the manuscripts for all three of his books...and he did a lot more than just writing a book...he lived under constant death threats because of his political activism
nami86 30th-Dec-2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
Rooney is the perfect Lisbeth
Fabulous movie btw
warsawed 30th-Dec-2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
Noomi was better :/
blackkdiamond 30th-Dec-2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
except not really...
muip 30th-Dec-2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
"Rooney is the perfect Lisbeth"

gitthefuckouttahere
katesamaloo 31st-Dec-2011 02:39 pm (UTC)
Yes
hera_bearrra 30th-Dec-2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
This movie was hard to watch. But I loved Lisbeth <3 Her and Daniel Craig were great together.
gohometerrorist 30th-Dec-2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Finally seeing this tonight. YAY.

I didn't know that about Larsson though...not sure how I feel about it. I know he was "young" or whatever but he really should have done something. Poor girl.
gohometerrorist 30th-Dec-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
That's true. It was probably a hard situation. But idk I feel like he could have at least tried, you know?
slutdrunkmystag 30th-Dec-2011 11:04 pm (UTC)
They were his friends, though. If they were strangers, I could see that much more. He probably could have stopped his friends.
lanuitdete 30th-Dec-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
well, the girl was raped in a gangbang and he was 15 years old when he saw this on the street or something. he must have felt like shit all his life by not doing anything.
bush_tetra 30th-Dec-2011 10:14 pm (UTC)
Rooney Mara needs a tag y/y?
xxpreciosa 30th-Dec-2011 10:17 pm (UTC)
yes!
jessepinkman 30th-Dec-2011 11:10 pm (UTC)
icon <3_<3
lanuitdete 30th-Dec-2011 10:21 pm (UTC)
+1
irises 30th-Dec-2011 10:15 pm (UTC)
rooney was amazing as lisbeth. i love her so fucking much now
and she could get it with the bleached eyebrows and weird hair UNF
irises 30th-Dec-2011 10:16 pm (UTC)
and i still can't get over the hotness of daniel craig and rooney mara together in the movie adfjghlkdjsfa
dirrtypony 30th-Dec-2011 10:24 pm (UTC)
didnt u just want to jump right in the middle of them and be like lets do this shit! i was turned on by both mmm
mhfromnh 31st-Dec-2011 01:15 am (UTC)
I must say, I think she looks better with bleached brows.
absolute_fury 31st-Dec-2011 01:25 am (UTC)
I thought her characterization was amazing. BUT. I hadn't read the book. Now I'm reading the book, I'm not that far in, but he book's Salander does seem quite different than the person Mara portrayed. The Salander in the book seems like she's actually tough, whereas the Salander in the (Fincher) movie was like a wounded animal.
rainaweather 31st-Dec-2011 02:11 am (UTC)
and she could get it with the bleached eyebrows and weird hair UNF

ia. I don't find her attractive in real life, but in the movie I was like DAMN!
bostongirl2003 30th-Dec-2011 10:24 pm (UTC)
ia. I mean, we don't know whether he ever apologized to her or what their relationship was after.

Or why his ass couldn't find a phone and call the police while it was happening...
therealycats 30th-Dec-2011 11:04 pm (UTC)
Well, he was camping and he was 15, so there probably wasn't a phone around, and there sure weren't cell phones available. That doesn't excuse his not even attempting to stop them though.
slutdrunkmystag 30th-Dec-2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
Can't remember where I read this, but I remember reading that he tried to apologize to her and she wasn't having it. I don't think he should have used her name for the character, seems kind of insensitive even if he meant well.
kaelstra 30th-Dec-2011 10:16 pm (UTC)
I don't know how I feel about the sexualization of a character who's main plot device is that she is raped. :/
superdogbiter 30th-Dec-2011 10:20 pm (UTC)
it's like hey shes a female and shes tough
lets sexualize her
lanuitdete 30th-Dec-2011 10:23 pm (UTC)
but the thing is that is she is a sexual in the book. her being raped does not break her down, and that's admirable.
deja_vu822 30th-Dec-2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
ia
sasandwich 31st-Dec-2011 01:57 am (UTC)
Ia. I like that she still owned her sexuality in a refreshingly unaplogetic way.
deja_vu822 30th-Dec-2011 10:37 pm (UTC)
i think it's interesting because i feel like society tends to completely desexualize women who were raped. like once the rape has been committed, they're ruined for good. there are definitely problems with her sexualization but i kind of like that she's still able to fulfill herself sexually afterwards, if that makes sense.
slutdrunkmystag 30th-Dec-2011 11:07 pm (UTC)
I don't think there's anything wrong with her being a sexual character because she was raped, but it does make me uncomfortable that it sounds like they made her submissive in the US movie whereas she seemed in control in the book and Swedish versions.
wanderlost 30th-Dec-2011 10:17 pm (UTC)
I think I'm the only person who preferred the Swedish version and Noomi to... this.

I just. Eh. I was disappointed and wanted my $6.50 back.
angi_is_altered 30th-Dec-2011 10:22 pm (UTC)
I think I'm the only person who preferred the Swedish version and Noomi to... this.




Nope, you are not alone.
warsawed 30th-Dec-2011 10:38 pm (UTC)
I liked this version a lot, but comparing it to the first is the by-product of them making this movie so close to the release of the others. And in my mind, Noomi inhabited the character and Rooney just didn't do that as well. Also, it definitely felt Americanized and not in a good way.
bohhead 31st-Dec-2011 05:56 am (UTC)
iawtcsfm. SO americanized!!!!
velvetunicorn 30th-Dec-2011 10:40 pm (UTC)
I'm really attached to the Swedish version (especially the first movie) and Noomi but I was going to see this with an open mind. I really don't want to watch it now after reading this. :(
luna_potterhead 30th-Dec-2011 10:41 pm (UTC)
Did you read the book?
sweetest_potato 30th-Dec-2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
You're not. Noomi is definitely a better representation of the Lisbeth I had in my head than Rooney (though I did think Rooney was really good).
flo 30th-Dec-2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
$6.50? dafuq today i paid fucking 15 dollars to watch tintin.

so many regrets
miss_bushido 31st-Dec-2011 05:08 am (UTC)
You're not. I've been on the fence since seeing how Lisbeth looks in the American version, and all these reviews I'm reading now...I doubt I will see it any time soon.

Noomi was perfect as Lisbeth.
bohhead 31st-Dec-2011 05:55 am (UTC)
i totally agree with you. i went to see it with my aunt and uncle and my uncle was like 'ZOMG IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE SWEDISH ONE' n i was like '...'
michelleantonia 31st-Dec-2011 10:27 am (UTC)
I wasn't disappointed.. but I just didn't FEEL anything when watching this version. I think Rooney was the best part of it, but still.. my reaction to her Lisbeth was nothing compared to the mind blasting that took place when I saw Noomi for the first time
miss_kate18 1st-Jan-2012 07:35 am (UTC)
I would love to pay $6.50 for movies! In Australia it's like $15 before you even hit the candy bar, haha.
I'm not too eager to see it, either.
ms_mmelissa 30th-Dec-2011 10:24 pm (UTC)
If you're talking about the book, it's terrible, just stop. If you want to know what happens just wikipedia it.
lowlighter 30th-Dec-2011 10:26 pm (UTC)
the book? get past about page 100, then it gets good. It's a lot of information (some you don't need, some that is important on down the road) to take in but it gets better.
arcadiaego 30th-Dec-2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
I'm trying to read the book having seen all the Swedish movies but I don't think I'll be continuing. I like the bits with Lisbeth more but the writing is not good and he describes everything in such needless detail it's really wearing me down!
flo 30th-Dec-2011 11:53 pm (UTC)
the beginning was so boring i downloaded the audiobook and then started reading after it got interesting. no shame tbh
xxpreciosa 30th-Dec-2011 10:18 pm (UTC)
The movie was fantastic
sh3l8y 30th-Dec-2011 10:19 pm (UTC)
i agree with this comment
kunklebunkle 30th-Dec-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
Really? I felt Rooney was closer to what Lisbeth was intended to be in the book both in terms of her physical appearance and in terms of her personality. Noomi's portrayal was just straight up badass (which has its own appeal) but Rooney added a level of vulnerability that was missing from the Swedish version. Over all, Rooney was just as good if not better than Noomi.
warsawed 30th-Dec-2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
Really? I felt very little emotional connection to Rooney, and a lot more of a connection to Noomi.
kapuki234 31st-Dec-2011 12:31 am (UTC)
ia
alchimie_amour 31st-Dec-2011 05:04 pm (UTC)
I think they both got different aspects of the character down, but overall I liked Noomi's portrayal better because she manages to communicate her vulnerability through stoicism which is harder IMO. Also, Fincher is known for choosing his actors' worst scenes and I feel like Mara's Lisbeth could have been 10000x better with an 'actors' director'
alienclit 30th-Dec-2011 10:19 pm (UTC)
I did like Lisbeth in the 1st movie better. She didn't seem to have as many feelings for Micke, was colder, actually set Martin on fire herself and Noomi did an all around better job imo (although Rooney was a lot a lot better than I expected her to be. She did a great job but Noomi's Lisbeth is still better in my opinion).
alienclit 30th-Dec-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
Ugh I have a weird habit of posting the same comment as the person above me before I even read the comments in the post. Maybe I can feel the astral waves speaking to me.
kapuki234 30th-Dec-2011 10:23 pm (UTC)
disagree. i thought her added vulnerability in mara's portrayal expressed her youth better.
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