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Kurt Sutter talks about tonight's SONS OF ANARCHY season finale

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Phew. Sons of Anarchy concluded what has arguably been its finest season (take note, Emmy!) with an edge-of-your seat, twist-filled, game-altering hour that tied up a number of loose ends and planted just enough seeds to keep viewers pumped for Season 5. In the following Q&A, the show’s passionate, outspoken creator, Kurt Sutter, weighs in on the finale’s biggest question marks and reveals what’s in store when the show returns next year.

Sons of Anarchy Season Finale Post Mortem: Kurt Sutter Tackles Burning Qs and Previews Season 5
TVLINE | Was it always your plan to have Clay survive the season?
Yeah. The character of Clay was essential to me for at least a couple more seasons. There’s so much more dramatic ground to cover with Jax at the head of that table and Clay now almost the Piney character in that he’s weakened and stripped of some of his previous weight and power. To me, that’s a really interesting dynamic. And quite honestly, I didn’t want to waste the power of Jax having that knowledge and passion and knowing about the deceit that happened and the secret that’s been kept from him for all these years with just one episode of him killing Clay. Because then it’s done. He’s avenged his father’s death and it’s almost like that storyline kind of burns out, and I just feel there’s a lot more story to tell there. I equate it to a little bit of what we did on The Shield. When Vic found out that Shane was responsible for killing Lem, we played out a whole season with those two guys knowing that. It was so much fun to have those two guys [harbor] intense hatred and and yet they had to suit up every day and go to work together. That’s just really fun fertile ground for story.

TVLINE | The Tara-Gemma dynamic was forever altered, too. They’re essentially becoming the same person. Moving forward, what is the one thing that prevents Tara from truly becoming like Gemma?
That was always the idea to have Gemma kind of bring Tara close and ultimately create her own little Frankenstein there. Look, I don’t think we’re going to waste the arc that we built with Tara this season. Meaning, she’s not going to go back to the, “Am I in or am I out?” Tara that we’ve seen previously. But clearly Tara is not Gemma… Tara gives Jax that syringe and says, “This is how you [kill Clay].” Well if it was Gemma, she would have already done it, so there’s still an element of Tara that’s somewhat removed. I don’t think Tara would actually be able to go up to Clay and put a bullet in his head or put the syringe in the tube. Is Tara really capable of becoming Gemma? And what happens if she’s put in a position where she has to make that ultimate sacrifice for her family and her club? Is she going to be capable of going that dark? So I do think they’re definitely some struggles with Tara yet to play out.

TVLINE | Tara and Clay now have something in common, in that they both know that Gemma is concealing the truth about her role in JT’s death from Jax.…
Right.

TVLINE | I have to imagine that that’s going to be a big story for next season.
I think so. It’s interesting — people have been asking me what’s going to happen with Clay and Gemma, and I’m not quite sure yet. I just know that they will always be intrinsically connected because of the secrets and the lies that they have together. And that’s an example of one. It’s why when Gemma sees Clay alive at the end [of the finale], that’s just a really bad thing for her. That’s a really big, dangerous loose end. So that will be something that we will definitely play with next season. And for Tara, that definitely gives her some leverage over Gemma. There are definitely still some loose ends from those letters — even though we see Gemma burning them. The physical evidence is missing, but Tara has enough weight with Jax that if she told him the truth, even without seeing the letters I think he would believe Tara. Perhaps Jax might not believe Clay, but I definitely think he would believe Tara. So I do believe there is some danger there even though she’s destroyed the evidence firsthand.

TVLINE | Is it safe to assume that the crime boss father of Leroy’s dead girlfriend will be a huge character next season?
Yeah. In terms of the level of participation, that always remains to be seen. But I definitely wanted to lay some track for Season 5 and put some complications already on Jax’s shoulder as he’s sitting at the head of the table. He’s already got a problem [going into Season 5].

TVLINE | Is it possible that we’ve seen the last of Opie for now?
I don’t think so. It was never my intention to suggest that he is away. To me, it was just too convenient and too soon for Opie to suddenly come back to that table with Jax. So much has happened to him and he’s such a thoughtful guy. I just think he’s the kind of guy that’s going to [need] a minute to put all this stuff in order in his head. And we’ll probably build some kind of story around that before he’s able to actually come back and be [at Jax's side]. So that was just [a matter of] protecting the character and then to give me some story play for next season as well.

TVLINE | Given the pressing nature of the Irish deal, will Season 5 pick up almost instantly?
Fairly close. Obviously, there’s not going to be the huge break we did between Seasons 3 and 4. But I’ll try to [build in] a little time, maybe a month or so.

TVLINE | Where do you stand on setting an end date to the show?
I’ve had a conversation with [FX president] John Landgraf and I look at [doing] potentially seven seasons. And, honestly, that’s really just coming from the model of the show and knowing that usually by Season 6 and 7 the above-the-line costs start to get pretty high and the show sort of loses profitability and it’s really difficult to continue to [produce] beyond that point. So my thought was that if I could get seven seasons, I’d definitely have stories to tell and a way to end it. So ideally, I’d love to be able to get another three seasons.

W O W. Potter is my new King and that last montage/parallel gave me fucking chills. AMAZING, OH MY GOD! Overall, it wasn't as good as I expected, tbh. I think the critics hyped it up a bit too much. What did you guys think? :)
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[info]ljubavirakija 7th-Dec-2011 04:29 am (UTC)
MTE.

(I need to catch-up on s3, and s4)
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:25 am (UTC)
THAT LAST SHOT. i teared up a ittle bit tbh. it was so powerful.
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:25 am (UTC)
little*
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:28 am (UTC)
That last shot was the only thing that was worth a two part finale tbh.
[info]screams_oftears 7th-Dec-2011 04:33 am (UTC)
[info]ch33rylips 7th-Dec-2011 04:35 am (UTC)
Ikr
[info]jennomac 7th-Dec-2011 04:58 am (UTC)
Yup.
[info]greyzombies 7th-Dec-2011 07:13 am (UTC)
It really, really was. Chills up and down my spine.
[info]ch33rylips 7th-Dec-2011 04:25 am (UTC)
ANTICLIMACTIC ENDING YET SOMEHOW FLAWLESS AT THE SAME TIME

It's bullshit that clay is still alive, Juice got off scott free for being a rat, and ugh the cartel bullshit. Tara is creeping me the fuck out, baby gemma and big gemma are going toe to toe next season and omg Potter made me like him so much in this episode... WHERE THE FUCK IS OPIE THO!
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:27 am (UTC)
idk i have a feeling that next season juice is gonna struggle with his ~deception.
[info]affliction 7th-Dec-2011 05:07 am (UTC)
damn you're probably right about this. oh the struggles of being A RAT.

let me just bang my head against the wall right now in advance.
[info]screams_oftears 7th-Dec-2011 04:34 am (UTC)
I am ENRAGED over Juice still being alive and in SAMCRO. And also annoyed that they're keeping Clay around because "the Irish won't do business with anyone else".... weak
[info]sunshineguinn 7th-Dec-2011 04:34 am (UTC)
My. Thoughts. Exactly.

Except I still like Juice, though I have no discernible reason why, haha.
[info]prophecy_grl 7th-Dec-2011 07:11 am (UTC)
I felt like nothing actually happened in this episode. Nothing! Clay DIDN'T die. Tara DIDN'T leave. The cartel deal DIDN'T go down. Potter DIDN'T arrest anyone. Charming Heights DIDN'T get voted on.

What the fuck happened?? NOTHING, that's what!

But somehow it was still pretty decent. For a finale it was a complete letdown, but as just another episode it was pretty good.
[info]michelleantonia 7th-Dec-2011 10:24 am (UTC)
All I was was fucking RELIEVED. Juice didn't choose to be a rat, he was backed into a fucking corner. He didn't deserve any of it, he didn't feel good about it, he felt worse than anyone should feel.. I mean he tried to OFF HIMSELF over it. He DESERVED to get off scott free imo
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:27 am (UTC)
I'm going to leave Alan Sepinwall's review here because IA SO FUCKING HARD
And if Kurt Sutter doesn't want to send his main character away, doesn't want to kill off his chief villain, doesn't want Juice to suffer any real consequences for what he's done(***), then that's fine. His show, his characters, his rules. But if I might make a suggestion: if you don't want any of those things to happen, don't spend an entire season building up to how they have to happen, then back out at the last possible second. Tell different stories - the kind you actually want to follow through with all the way.

Next season will hopefully be a lot better because of all the things this season has set up.
[info]screams_oftears 7th-Dec-2011 04:35 am (UTC)
That reviewer is a god! Summed it all up perfectly!
[info]shiningautumn 7th-Dec-2011 04:37 am (UTC)
sutter is gonna have a bitchfit about this review
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:40 am (UTC)
lol I know, and yet it's so true that there's no way he can deny it. Can't wait to see his angry tweets.
[info]ides_of_smarch 7th-Dec-2011 04:40 am (UTC)
so much truth. i linked to it in my comment too.
[info]vanhrh 7th-Dec-2011 04:40 am (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with Alan!
[info]she_rockstar 7th-Dec-2011 04:47 am (UTC)
Sepinwall is so, so right. Still, I didn't want Juice to die so there. That said, he didn't have to die at all. There are other consequences.... Oh show.
[info]evett 7th-Dec-2011 04:50 am (UTC)
so true
[info]oxyj3nn 7th-Dec-2011 04:50 am (UTC)
MFTE! his truth is offensive to kurt and he refused a post finale interview with him too. hes in the 'douchebag cunts who don't know shit' list for kurt
[info]jennomac 7th-Dec-2011 05:02 am (UTC)
It's so fucking true though. NO ONE suffered any consequences for their actions - at least consequences that match the severity of their actions.

Clay didn't die, Juice didn't get caught, Tara didn't give Jax shit for backing out on his promise, we spend this whole season on this secret operation and the CIA shuts it down in a milisecond like NOTHING.... Come on! Don't focus your entire season on all these storylines, promise us a climatic ending and then give us virtually a "it was all a dream" ending. No one got what was coming to them.
[info]im_shellfish 7th-Dec-2011 06:07 am (UTC)
ugh this!!
[info]prophecy_grl 7th-Dec-2011 07:12 am (UTC)
This review is completely on point and absolutely irrefutably correct.
[info]michelleantonia 7th-Dec-2011 10:25 am (UTC)
How does this dude know that the consequences of that shit aren't gonna come down on the characters like a ton of bricks next season? Nothing is all pretty and tied up with a bow.. not by a long show
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:27 am (UTC)
also, i am so in love with Tara and Gemma right now. you have no idea.
[info]burninbacon 7th-Dec-2011 04:32 am (UTC)
Omg, me too. I cannot wait for the epic bitch face-off's we'll be getting next season. It's a win-win in that situation.
[info]ciccones 7th-Dec-2011 05:02 am (UTC)
ME TOO, OMFGGG! I am more eager to see a Gemma/Jax showdown, but these two hbic will have great storylines next season, especially Gemma now that she will be dealing with being pushed aside.
[info]jennomac 7th-Dec-2011 05:04 am (UTC)
Gemma/Jax is going to fucking go down big time next season. Oh man. I can already see Jax and Tara trying to ice Gemma out and make room for a new gen of Samcro and Gemma is just not. going. to. have. it.

I am so ready for this family feud.
[info]poisoncity 7th-Dec-2011 04:27 am (UTC)
Oh man. Glad to be proven wrong about my bb Tara, but she's lost it. D: "He's mine." *bawls*

I'm EXTREMELY interested in the Gemma/Tara dynamic for next season.

Tig is no longer SAA, which... makes sense since he removed his patch. Chibbs is SAA now. ♥

I liked Happy and Juice's little smiles before they went to the table.

NOTHING WILL EVER DELIGHT ME LIKE JUICE WATCHING THE SHIELD IN LOCK-UP. That said, hello crossover snarl, since the One-Niner's are a The Shield gang.

I HAVE FEELINGS OKAY
[info]isthisdesire 7th-Dec-2011 04:29 am (UTC)
tysm for adding the tig/chibbs info. I couldn't hear b/c my dog was barking but I know I saw a sad tig :/
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
oh god yes, that scene with tara after talking to jax... i had chills. maggie really stepped it up this season.
[info]fabouluz 7th-Dec-2011 04:37 am (UTC)
The Chibs bit made me HAPPY.
[info]u_belong_to_me 7th-Dec-2011 04:28 am (UTC)
All I need to know is that Juice is okay. I'm saving this episode and the one before it until after finals, but that's the one thing I want to be sure of.
[info]u_belong_to_me 7th-Dec-2011 04:29 am (UTC)
*Read comments* YES!
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:29 am (UTC)
He's fine.
[info]affliction 7th-Dec-2011 04:30 am (UTC)
he's not. everyone else is just lying to make sure you're surprised.
[info]u_belong_to_me 7th-Dec-2011 04:35 am (UTC)
I believe you.
[info]chaos_organised 7th-Dec-2011 04:30 am (UTC)
Great finale. This season was amazing! Possibly my favorite. I was really hoping they would kill that cunt Clay but it will be interesting to keep him around.

P.S. MORE CHIBS NEXT SEASON!
[info]she_rockstar 7th-Dec-2011 04:54 am (UTC)
Def. More Chibs please.
[info]hesreallydivine 7th-Dec-2011 06:00 am (UTC)
I was so happy when Chibs was made SAA.

This means more Chibs and I can totally get behind that!
[info]ljubavirakija 7th-Dec-2011 04:30 am (UTC)
My brother thinks Tara will be killed off next season. ("She's becoming way too cray-cray")
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:33 am (UTC)
Sutter doesn't have the balls to kill of anyone in important so I'd say she's safe.
[info]khaldrogo 7th-Dec-2011 07:06 am (UTC)
For now.

If Sutter continues to follow the Hamlet storyline then pretty sure she'll die before the show ends.
[info]isthisdesire 7th-Dec-2011 04:30 am (UTC)
You know what the worst part of this episode was?



Seeing Bobby's nasty and long as fuq toe nails when he was sitting in lock up. I could see his toe nail extending over his big toe and I got the ickies.
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:32 am (UTC)
lmfao!
[info]parisdiorchanel 7th-Dec-2011 04:48 am (UTC)
lmao
[info]chuckisfuckis 7th-Dec-2011 05:11 am (UTC)
Dead.
[info]hershelwalker 8th-Dec-2011 03:23 am (UTC)
I am so glad I missed that.
[info]sunshineguinn 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
That tie. Is Charlie a Hufflepuff? ;)
[info]dmclaire 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
I really loved the finale and wow that last scene was so good. I need season 5 now! I wanted Clay dead but I think it will be interesting to see what he does next season now that he isn't president
[info]fabouluz 7th-Dec-2011 04:36 am (UTC)
he'll probably get back with Gemma since she's scorned also.
[info]dmclaire 7th-Dec-2011 04:47 am (UTC)
I hope she doesn't go back to Clay but I can see that happening
[info]ciccones 7th-Dec-2011 05:54 am (UTC)
let's hope not D:
[info]screams_oftears 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
Ummm... this episode had flaws... LOTS of flaws. Underwhelmed
[info]gata_power 7th-Dec-2011 04:34 am (UTC)
oh god THIS. I don't get all the blind love for it. I really enjoy this show but the writing is just so fucking heavy handed it's ridiculous.
[info]fabouluz 7th-Dec-2011 04:35 am (UTC)
It didn't need to go over the top to get the points across in this episode. What they did was subtle and sublime.
[info]screams_oftears 7th-Dec-2011 04:38 am (UTC)
Honestly I feel that the people that are blindly in love with it are people that like the show for reasons other than what the show is about... the club. People get too invested in "Character x is still alive.... MY FEELINGS OMG"

Yeah the writing this season has not been up to usual standards
[info]mankini 7th-Dec-2011 07:35 pm (UTC)
And this will be the season it finally gets Emmy love ha.
[info]nilo 7th-Dec-2011 04:58 am (UTC)
The season was amazing. Right up until the finale. Then it sucked balls.

It was all foreplay and no orgasm.

Now I'm just hot, bothered, sweaty, and frustrated.
[info]vanhrh 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
I was a bit underwhelmed, but I still thought it was a great season finale.

I HATE that Juice got away with being a rat. Once a rat, always a rat. I love Juice but he lost a lot of points with me.

Lincoln Potter, you awesome man you! Weirdo!

The baby playing Thomas is so freaking cute. Like he's the best acting baby ever. They need to keep him for the rest of the series.

Yay, Tara didn't die! Yay she and Jax are sill together.

OH SHIT!! Tara and Gemma are going to be at each others throats next season.

Chibs as St.of Arms. He better be.

I loved Happys smile at Jax when he say him sitting at the head of the table.

I knew Opie wouldn't come.

The last scene was sorta a mix of cheesy and flawlessness at the same time.

I now have my life back for the next 9 months.

[info]whitelily22 7th-Dec-2011 04:31 am (UTC)
OMG DOES ANYONE HAVE A LINK?
[info]whitelily22 7th-Dec-2011 04:41 am (UTC)
I <3 U
[info]ezramiller 7th-Dec-2011 04:35 am (UTC)
check your private messages!
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