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Ashton Kutcher voices support for Joe Paterno, then apologizes and retracks his statements



Ashton Kutcher was forced into an embarrassing climbdown after tweeting that the sacking of Joe Paterno showed 'no class' and was an 'insult' to his legacy. At about 12.30AM this morning, he wrote on his official account: 'How do you fire Jo Pa? #insult #noclass as a hawkeye [the University of Iowa football team] fan I find it in poor taste.'

His comment came after the news Paterno, Penn State head coach for 46 years, had been fired for allegedly covering up sexual abuse by the school's former football defense coordinator Jerry Sandusky. The college's Board of Trustees also forced the resignation of president Graham Spanier, who was also said to be implicated in covering up the scandal.

Many tweeters pointed out that Kutcher, together with his wife Demi Moore, founded the the DNA Foundation, which specifically aims to 'end child sex slavery'. Justin Stangel wrote: 'Tell me if I’m right - You're against child trafficking unless it's with college football staff.' 

Billyontheradio added: 'Wait, didnt u cheat on your wife on your ANNIVERSARY!? Yeah, ur an expert on CLASS!' Miles Kahn made reference to his comedic predecessor: 'So that's how you make Sheen look good', with Nick Youssef mocking: 'Being the lead on 2 1/2 Men DOES make you crazy!'

Many simply labelled Kutcher an idiot for his view. After the barrage of complaints, Kutcher deleted the tweet and recanted his stance. 'This is an insane story, I just heard paterno was fired, getting the rest of the story now... Wow,' he wrote. He added: 'Heard Joe was fired, fully recant previous tweet! Didn't have full story. #admitwhenYoumakemistakes

Kutcher added: 'As an advocate in the fight against child sexual exploitation, I could not be more remorseful for all involved in the Penn St. case. 'As of immediately I will stop tweeting until I find a way to properly manage this feed. I feel awful about this error. Won't happen again.'



It started off with this:


Then this:
(read from this part from the bottom up)


And finally this:
(read from this part from the bottom up)


There are more tweets about the issue on Ashton's twitter if you want to view them, but he deleted the very first one. 

So, was it an honest mistake, or is he backtracking? Do you feel bad for the backlash that he received, or do you think that she should have done his research before offering his opinion? So much to discuss...

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[info]rouge_night 10th-Nov-2011 02:45 pm (UTC)
[info]therearewords 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
Flawless icon
[info]rouge_night 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
ty
[info]sparkfactory 10th-Nov-2011 06:06 pm (UTC)
omg cogsworth my one true love <3
[info]girlygirlk8e 10th-Nov-2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
Who said what? Idk how to work twitter. Haha I know I know.
[info]tehrager this one is all over when you search his mentions. — 10th-Nov-2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
RT @kellyoxford: You can't even act when you type. RT @aplusk: An insane story, I just heard paterno was fired, getting the rest of the story now... Wow.
[info]rebeljean 10th-Nov-2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
He apologized.
[info]harrypotterlvr3 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
look below you lol
[info]diamond_dust06 10th-Nov-2011 03:01 pm (UTC)
"apologized"
[info]rebeljean 10th-Nov-2011 03:03 pm (UTC)
???
[info]harrypotterlvr3 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
okay just updated everything. i hope that's okay mods.

sry about the oriignal post, it was submitted before he took back his statements and whatnot.

Edited at 2011-11-10 02:48 pm (UTC)
[info]ani_di_franco 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
Oh, Ashton..

[info]sandvich 10th-Nov-2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
Chad. ♥
[info]miss_icequeen 10th-Nov-2011 04:30 pm (UTC)
LOVE
[info]comalies 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
.....oh.

Also I read through the post where all the butthurt PSU students showed up to complain about everyone judging them and Joe Pa and it was just so mean guyz.
[info]imnotasquirrel 10th-Nov-2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
They didn't beat the people on facebook whose defense basically boiled down to: "...but it's Joe."

[info]jeveuxmacaron 10th-Nov-2011 03:35 pm (UTC)
it is ridiculous.

i'm a faithful OSU alum (2010 wooo) and if jim tressel had done what this guy did i would have to be restrained from burning my diploma and i'd be calling for his head.

and any sympathy i had for the kids who go to that school because of the shitstorm this will unfairly label on them went right down the shitter after seeing these riots. fuck all of hem.
[info]comalies 10th-Nov-2011 03:42 pm (UTC)
Yup. It's a bit hard for me to comprehend because I have literally no pride in our sports and not much in our school either (except to rub it in to the faces of the rest of the state's schools how much better we are of course!) But if it was someone I really admired or had looked up to I would be so angry. Like, I feel because they are so invested they should be angrier than the rest of us. This is a guy who they think of as their grandpa and has been apart of the community for 40+ years, I would feel betrayed right now if I was a PSU student.
[info]the_only_babbs 10th-Nov-2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
I am a faithful Buckeye fan too. Almost 41 years of being a Buckeye. Anyhow, I had this same discussion with my husband last night. Jim quit after lying about his players selling their OWN stuff. Sure he tried to cover it up but then he took full responsibility. If this had happened at OSU there is NO WAY Tressel would have allowed this to continue. He may have tried to protect his players for something really stupid but you know he would have called the cops.
[info]jsrocks 10th-Nov-2011 04:09 pm (UTC)
I'm also an OSU alum (2006) and I'd be raging if Tressel neglected to report a crime like this.

Tressel's problem with OSU makes it look like he stole candy from a baby compared to Joe Paterno's problem. :/
[info]jeveuxmacaron 10th-Nov-2011 03:36 pm (UTC)
them*
[info]theartistprince 10th-Nov-2011 08:23 pm (UTC)
link?
[info]scornedsaint 10th-Nov-2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
He clearly didn't know anything about the case but it's good that he apologized and retracted the tweet (although HOW he didn't know about the situation is a whole other question. Must be nice under that rock.)

Edited at 2011-11-10 02:48 pm (UTC)
[info]anus 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
I have BARELY heard about this (haven't checked the news in a while) and even I knew what was going on.
[info]greyfilm 10th-Nov-2011 05:42 pm (UTC)
OMGYOURICON. Is that Cricket? ♥
[info]tehrager 10th-Nov-2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
mte
[info]imnotasquirrel 10th-Nov-2011 02:56 pm (UTC)
IKR.

Then again, my bff didn't know anything about this either. I emailed her the other day, asking what she thought about the scandal and saying that I didn't know how I'd feel if I found out that my school (USC) had done something like that. She replied, "LOL, you weren't upset with the Pete Carroll cheating story?" I was all, "...Okay, I was annoyed and pissed off about that, yes, but this is in a whole different league!" Turned out that she had no idea what the PSU story was. /csb
[info]innocentanalyst 10th-Nov-2011 08:29 pm (UTC)
tbh, I didn't know what was going on until I saw it on the Philip DeFranco show on YouTube. I've been so consumed with desperately trying to find a job that I've been neglecting the news.
[info]therearewords 10th-Nov-2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
'Didn't know, thought it was a football thing'


Duuuuuuuuuuuude.
[info]comalies 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty disgusted by how many have tried to make it a football thing though.
[info]therearewords 10th-Nov-2011 03:02 pm (UTC)
Of course, it's a much easier way out than to own up to the ugliest option. I heard that some students said things along the line of 'Let us just deal with it, it's our university' like it's less worse when kept under wraps.
[info]iamglory 10th-Nov-2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
And this is why we don't speak before we do all the research.

I am convinced that people don't really look up to stars today not because they are increasingly stupid, but because we have more access to them. I think that Golden Age Hollywood people would have been treated the same way (or acted the same way) if they had access to Twitter and shit way back then. People may realize they are just ass stupid as some of the people today.

I'm tired...I hope this made sense...it probably didn't.
[info]anus 10th-Nov-2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
[info]nuravecunt 10th-Nov-2011 03:36 pm (UTC)
lol this episode and when "Honey" talked about her landlord putting a camera in the bathroom
[info]jenniesbottle 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
lol he's going to stop tweeting, what a mess. At least he owned up to it. I still see celebs saying how they feel sorry for "Joe Pa."
[info]tehrager 10th-Nov-2011 02:55 pm (UTC)
yeah, at least he did. how could he not know about it, though, smh.
[info]jsrocks 10th-Nov-2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
I think he made an honest mistake, but I do believe he shouldn't have posted anything if he didn't really know what was going on. That said, his original post and all the backtracking was damn hilarious the way it happened. He should have just deleted the original comment and stopped tweeting.
[info]openmyminibar 10th-Nov-2011 05:27 pm (UTC)
if he deleted without saying anything more that would look like he stood by the tweet but didn't like the reaction. that would be worse
[info]cafune 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
still can't believe the amount of stupidity that happened last night.
[info]rainbow_fish 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
Okay, I admit that I haven't been following this story, so don't come at me with pitch forks, but I was watching CNN last night and they said that he DID report the incident to his superiors, and IDK, I thought that seemed appropriate. So like, why haven't these 'superiors' taken the fall instead of him?

And like, he wasn't even the one who witnessed anything, right? It was just reported to him? Did the person who actually saw it and didn't call the cops lose their job too?

Maybe this is coming from me just lacking an understanding of college football politics?

/went to a small liberal arts college


[info]crystalzelda 10th-Nov-2011 02:53 pm (UTC)
Because when you hear about one of your colleagues sodomizing young boys in the showers of your stadiums, just telling your boss - who does nothing, continues to allow said colleague to come back to the stadium with more kids for years, almost a decade - doesn't cut it. Then would have been the time to call the police.

They're all equally to blame for letting this go on. The president of the school did resign, as well he should. I wonder how these people sleep at night. Ugh.

Edited at 2011-11-10 02:54 pm (UTC)
[info]calumfan 10th-Nov-2011 02:56 pm (UTC)
exactly. Mentioning it to the higher ups and not asking about it again/letting that monster continue to work for you? No, fuck no
[info]rainbow_fish 10th-Nov-2011 02:57 pm (UTC)
CNN said that after he reported it to his boss that the abuser did lose his rights to the premises? Because he had already technically retired by the time anything was reported to Joe?

I guess what I'm asking is: why didn't all the other people who actually witnessed this shit lose their jobs/ why didn't Joe's boss (who it was reported to) also lose his job?

Because from what I've seen, it seems like they're making a scapegoat out of him when there are many, many more people who are just as, if not MORE responsible aren't being subjected to nation-wide scrutiny like this Joe fellow.
[info]harrypotterlvr3 10th-Nov-2011 03:03 pm (UTC)
+1

I don't understand how someone could think that his actions "were enough." He only told his boss, never talked to the police (how the fuck do you not tell the cops about child rape???), didn't blink an eye when there was no progress for prosecution, and never pursued any punishment for the fuck.

What kind of sick fucking person do you have to be able to live with that? Live with knowing that you did nothing to stop a child rapist, who is probably still committing those heinous crimes?
[info]hpennhills 10th-Nov-2011 03:35 pm (UTC)
the president of the school did resign, as well he should.

Spanier didn't quit/resign, the Board of Trustees fired him along with JoePa.
[info]goddess09807 10th-Nov-2011 03:01 pm (UTC)
The only person with more power at PSU than Joe Pa is Spanier and he's been forced out as well. So yeah, the superiors have taken the fall.

The problem with what Joe Pa did is that he did the bare minimum when in this case he had a moral obligation to make sure action was taken.

And all of the excuses of him being assured it would be handled or "just" being a football coach are ridiculous. The man is an institution in PA. Marrying into the Paterno family is a thing. Restaurants brag about him being a regular. He had enough clout, more than enough, to make an issue out of it if he didn't see actions and results.

I spent my leave of absence at PSU, my cousin graduated from there, my brothers there now. I'm not saying this as a PSU hater. But they have a serious fixation on this man and as much as they try to pretend it isn't, it is about football. I get it, I love football too, but the blind and overwhelming support for JoePa rather than the real victims has been disgusting.
[info]diamond_dust06 10th-Nov-2011 03:04 pm (UTC)
The president of the university, the head of campus police, and the head athletic director have all been fired, too, and the latter two might be facing criminal charges for failing to report the rape.

The douchebag grad assistant who witnessed it should also be fired, I agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if he only agreed to cooperate with police if he was guaranteed to not lose his job over this. (Is that a deal they can make? idk)
[info]lovexemity 10th-Nov-2011 03:06 pm (UTC)
The guy who saw actual evidence of molestation should have called the police. Instead he took it to Joe Paterno, his superior, who also chose to pass the buck to his superiors rather than inform the authorities. He also did nothing when he saw that his superiors dropped the ball.

Call me crazy, but if someone comes to me and says they saw my co-worker screwing around with little kids I'm calling popo. They all fucked up and they should all pay in equal measure.
[info]jsrocks 10th-Nov-2011 04:15 pm (UTC)
He didn't do the right thing b/c no one attempted to report it to the police.

His superiors are taking the fall by being charged or fired.
[info]sillywalter 10th-Nov-2011 04:45 pm (UTC)
It is state law for him to report to authorities. As a coach he would have to had the clearances, yearly, (Act 30, 33 or whatever) to even be paid as a coach. He would have had a moral, and legal, obligation to call the authorities. I don't understand why they haven't charged him with "failure to report." These people who are defending his actions through "he did what he was supposed", etc. are wrong.
[info]ctotheatherine 10th-Nov-2011 05:17 pm (UTC)
the former grad student who saw it happen is still allowed to coach on saturday.
Curley, the athletic director, has not been fired, he is still on the payroll.

[info]putyohandsonme 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
Lol that is why I google stuff before I post it on the internet, lol poor guy.
[info]solsty 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
I was ready to rage, but he did apologize.
[info]lizrocks 10th-Nov-2011 03:06 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I'm not one to cut him much slack but that was a sincere apology, not a fauxpology.
[info]anna_is_macabre 10th-Nov-2011 03:11 pm (UTC)
Me too.
[info]solsty 10th-Nov-2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
Oh lawd, I can only imagine.
[info]shortliljackers 10th-Nov-2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
ia...i honestly believe he didn't know the full story and feels really bad.
[info]_teaspoon_ 10th-Nov-2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
Alec Baldwin too. Damn.
[info]jenniesbottle 10th-Nov-2011 03:01 pm (UTC)
What'd Alec say?
[info]_teaspoon_ 10th-Nov-2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
Not as bad as Ashton Kutcher, but kinda insensitive. https://twitter.com/#!/alecbaldwin
[info]piscesvstaurus 10th-Nov-2011 04:41 pm (UTC)
Ever since Alec complained about a "queeny" barista at starbuck on twitter, I kinda don't care what he has to say about anything.
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