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9:36 pm - 08/07/2011

Lady Gaga accused of Bob Dylan plagiarism on new single cover

 

Lady Gaga’s latest single “You and I” is pretty much dead in Chicago. B96 has played it once and then discontinued the song from its airplay list (for now). It has also dropped on the national iTunes chart to number 117. But Lady Gaga’s biggest problem is that she is being accused of plagiarizing Bob Dylan for the single cover.

The cover to “You and I” features Lady Gaga dressed as a man looking almost exactly like Bob Dylan. “I guess she has run out of all her Madonna incarnations, so now she’s turning into Bob Dylan? This is an insult to our legend,” says poster DylanMasterful at the Bob Dylan Fan Site. The comments on Perezhilton.com aren’t any more impressive. One user notes that she liked Lady Gaga’s incarnation of Madonna vs. the Skunk better.

Lady Gaga has faced all sorts of criticism this year and besides plagiarism, has been accused of scamming charities, insulting Latinos, insulting Asians, cheating the music industry with her 99 cent album sale, and a lot more. Do you think she deserves all this vitriol?


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jeveuxmacaron 7th-Aug-2011 10:17 pm (UTC)
why the fuck would you mention people liking it in the same comment as you trying to defend it from being racist, then? the one concept has nothing to do with the other

so the people who have issues with those terms are the ones with the problem. i get it.

bamboobanga2 7th-Aug-2011 10:22 pm (UTC)
because the truth is that only on VERY SMALL portions of the internet has the song been called "racist". if it was really thought to be racist by that many people, it would have made news headlines! instead, the song was popular, the video was great, and it was on top of the charts for six weeks. i know there is a lot of white privilege, and racism still exists in the united states. but do you honestly think the american public, gaga's producers, all of my black and filipino friends, my extended puerto rican family would have enjoyed this song if it were truly racist? no.
jeveuxmacaron 7th-Aug-2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
1.) Most of the American public don't want to know anything about white privilege
2.) Gaga's producers are probably more interested in the money she brings them than the social issues she can draw attention to (ostensibly)
3.) I don't know your friends or family and I can't say what they identify with or no, but them not having a problem with it doesn't mean that other Asians and Latino/Latina people didn't.
bamboobanga2 7th-Aug-2011 10:34 pm (UTC)
ok, logic obviously does not work for you.

i will leave it at this: the words themselves, individually, are not racist terms at all. period. there are people who identify by those terms.

gaga also did not use these terms in a racist way in her song. therefore, because the meaning of the words are not racist, and the way she used them isn't racist...the song itself is not racist! there you go. have a nice night.
jeveuxmacaron 7th-Aug-2011 10:41 pm (UTC)
oh for the love of--
there are people who identify by those terms. there are also a great deal of people who do not like them. so we should just dismiss their concerns?

and it doesn't fucking matter how you use words like that.

you are a delusional stan.
bamboobanga2 7th-Aug-2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
seriously, you are fucking stupid. you JUST said "there are people who identify by those terms". end of story. you can't go any further than that.

are we supposed to dismiss all of their concerns too? they identify by those terms, i'm sure they loved being championed by song. so why the fuck should they care if somebody else thinks that the word THEY identify by is racist? your argument is so flaccid rn.
jeveuxmacaron 7th-Aug-2011 10:45 pm (UTC)

BLAH BLAH SOME PEOPLE LOVED IT I DON'T KNOW WHO BUT THEY DID AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT AND NONE OF MY FRIENDS DID SO THAT MAKES IT OK BLAH BLAH

bamboobanga2 7th-Aug-2011 10:48 pm (UTC)
that's right, use those caps and get mad that your argument was officially proven invalid. sucks when you corner yourself like that, huh?
liddlebins 8th-Aug-2011 09:21 am (UTC)
if she called black people niggers or porch monkeys or white people crackers in that song and didn't mean it in a racist way, i'd still find it racist

just saying

"what's up, my nigger?"

not 'racist'... still wrong
bamboobanga2 8th-Aug-2011 09:57 am (UTC)
whoa whoa whoa, that comparison does not work AT ALL. there is not a single person in history who positively identifies with the term "nigger". and no, the reclaiming of the word and its current form "nigga" does not count at all. nobody identifies by the term "cracker", either.

also, "chola" and "orient" do not have the same racist and historical implications as the word "nigger". please do not use such a weak argument next time. the answer to this should really have been obvious for you.
mondengel 8th-Aug-2011 08:04 pm (UTC)
there is not a single person in history who positively identifies with the term "nigger".

I beg to differ.
bamboobanga2 8th-Aug-2011 09:01 pm (UTC)
you can nitpick semantics if you'd like, but the fact is that the percentile of people who positively identify with that word is nowhere near enough to take away its prior meaning, nor to put it in a song about acceptance and have it be okay.
____slowxdown 9th-Aug-2011 11:47 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure "the N-word" is a racist term.....
ilovedogs 8th-Aug-2011 09:51 pm (UTC)
Thank you for taking on the fight with the ignorant asshole.
jeveuxmacaron 8th-Aug-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks--I really don't know why it's the person who has an issue with the term itself that is the problem, to so many people.
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