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Osama Bin Laden = Voldemort?

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LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - While Hollywood scrambles to figure out ways to exploit the death of Osama bin Laden on screen, the first movie that could actually benefit from the news is likely to be the final Harry Potter movie, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2," which comes out on July 15.

While distributor Warner Bros has never pushed the comparison, the entire Potter saga -- both the books and the movies -- have an inevitable subtext, colored by the events of 9/11.

While the first volume in J.K. Rowling's seven-book series was originally published in England in 1997, the first movie, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone," was released in November 2001, just months after 9/11.

It set up the ongoing conflict between Harry, the young, orphaned wizard, who gradually discovers his powers, and the malignant force of evil, Lord Voldemort, who is bent on destroying him. First referred to only as "He Who Must Not Be Named," Voldemort is introduced as something of a formless boogie-man -- not unlike the mysterious Osama -- but then, over the course of the series, takes on more and more of a physical presence until in the last volume he and Harry go head-to-head in a final, cataclysmic battle.

For a generation of kids who grew up reading Rowling's books and watching Hollywood's big-screen adaptations in the shadows of 9/11, there have been inevitable echoes of the real world in Harry's sometimes reluctant quest to defeat Voldemort.




Back in 2004, a poster on mugglenet.com made some of it explicit, comparing the Death Eaters to Al Queda and noting of that "just as Voldemort was shaped by his mother's death and his father's abandonment, Osama was shaped by his personal struggle between Western pleasures and Islamic discipline."

And just as Harry is known in the books as "the anointed one," a number of President Obama's critics like Rush Limbaugh have frequently dismissed the president by disparagingly referring to him as "the anointed one" as well -- though on Monday, even Limbaugh had praise for how Obama orchestrated Osama's demise.

~*Mild spoiler ahead, so stop reading if you don't know the outcome of the final book...*~

Meanwhile, in the wake of bin Laden's death in a mansion near Islamabad, a meme has already popped up on the web, noting the weird coincidence that Osama and Voldemort both died on the same day, May 1. But true Potter fans have been quick to point out that's not quite true: When Harry and Voldemort actually finally come face-to-face in the Battle of Hogwarts, in the books' chronology the date is really May 2, 1998.

Of course, even without an end to bin Laden, the final Potter movie is already on track to be one of the biggest movies of the summer. The franchise has already grossed more than $6.3 billion at the worldwide box office.

But bin Laden's death is now likely to give the movie an extra emotional resonance for the Potter generation, and that could translate into an even bigger box office bonanza.



Reuters, what a strange source for this

If OBL died on May 1st (US time), couldn't he have actually died on May 2 Pakistani or British time? Anyone?
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[info]randomneses NO.3rd-May-2011 01:07 am (UTC)
This bullshit was stupid enough on tumblr...

I'm a huge Potter fan but this isn't even funny.

Edited at 2011-05-03 01:08 am (UTC)
[info]fil0li Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
iawtc

people need to stop
[info]pushpoplove Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
For real though.

"The Homeland Security official said the agency remains "at a heightened state of vigilance," although the national terror-threat level was not immediately raised following bin Laden's death."

I was all "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!"

But that's about as far as my HP comparisons got.
[info]insane_pyro_grl Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:16 am (UTC)
Same here, bb. Even when Obama said it I was yelling about Mad-Eye and Constant Vigilance.
[info]x3raindropsx3 Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:24 am (UTC)
same negl
[info]alacrities Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 04:19 am (UTC)
that's all i think of whenever i see the word "vigilance" now.
[info]writtenbyhand Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:13 am (UTC)
Oh, Tumblr.
[info]milkradio Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:18 am (UTC)
iawtcsfm
[info]drasticsigns Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:39 am (UTC)
mte
[info]vickileekx Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:51 am (UTC)
this
[info]iamshal Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:57 am (UTC)
agreeeeeed
[info]glambbydoll Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 01:58 am (UTC)
Ia
[info]mlo_7 Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 02:01 am (UTC)
this
[info]saltybread Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 02:34 am (UTC)
iawtc
[info]thestreetlights Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 02:40 am (UTC)
Indeed.
[info]myhipusername Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 03:04 am (UTC)
iawtc
[info]theartistprince Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 03:44 am (UTC)
ia

at least the Hitler thing was, you know... real.
[info]silk_and_steel Re: NO.3rd-May-2011 04:39 am (UTC)
Seriously.
[info]beestings Re: NO.4th-May-2011 08:51 pm (UTC)
mte :|
[info]floetcist Re: NO.4th-May-2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
thank you.
[info]beatlesluv Re: NO.5th-May-2011 10:41 pm (UTC)
MTTEEE
[info]orgiastic 3rd-May-2011 01:07 am (UTC)
stop
[info]loonyluna26 3rd-May-2011 01:09 am (UTC)
lol
[info]gusfrings 3rd-May-2011 01:26 am (UTC)
that icon + this comment
lmaooo
i cant

but i agree
[info]hannah_or_hanna 3rd-May-2011 01:34 am (UTC)
Your icon automatically elevates every comment you make.
[info]lacylaplante 3rd-May-2011 01:08 am (UTC)
derp
[info]violue 3rd-May-2011 01:08 am (UTC)
Osama Bin Laden didn't die yesterday though... that was just when he was confirmed.
[info]rhrsoulmates 3rd-May-2011 01:12 am (UTC)
That's not what I heard. I heard he was killed either at 4 pm or 7 pm (I forget the details) EST - yesterday.

ETA: That's definitely not true. It was almost 5 pm, Sunday - 5/1. I think I saw on Google that it was officially 5/2 Pakistani time but I honestly don't know and am too tired to look up time zone conversions.

Edited at 2011-05-03 01:23 am (UTC)
[info]destructo_ray 3rd-May-2011 01:24 am (UTC)
Yeah, the guy who accidentally live-tweeted the Osama assassination started around 1:00 AM (his time in Pakistan). And it was around 4:00 PM for us at EST. But he started when he heard helicopters so I dunno how long it took from them flying in to the actual kill-shot... :\
[info]pushpoplove 3rd-May-2011 01:08 am (UTC)
I'm just here to turn this into an HP party post TBH.

Photobucket
[info]iheart_life 3rd-May-2011 01:15 am (UTC)
take this somewhere else for fucks sake and have some GD respect for what happened yesterday. this is not your fanboy/girl moment, okay? JFC.
[info]pushpoplove 3rd-May-2011 01:16 am (UTC)
How about you go fuck yourself?

Love,

A wife, daughter and sister of a US Army Soldier
[info]logan_lerman 3rd-May-2011 01:20 am (UTC)
woah there
[info]electric_kite 3rd-May-2011 02:00 am (UTC)
oh, you.
[info]aeryn 3rd-May-2011 02:16 am (UTC)
Not trying to be a dick or anything but seriously, this post is not about what happened yesterday, it's about Harry Potter. YESTERDAY'S post about Osama being killed would have been the moment to really talk about what actually occurred, and to have respect.
[info]glencocko 3rd-May-2011 02:32 am (UTC)
you are so pressed rn. was ihate_life taken?
[info]thruruby 3rd-May-2011 02:20 am (UTC)
People aren't in the mood for a party :(
[info]queen_of_crazy 4th-May-2011 01:43 am (UTC)
I'm partying w/ u, bb. Ignore dem haters.

P.S. Posted the coincidence on Twitter & FB and I did not get one ounce of hate from my followers.
[info]redleigh86 3rd-May-2011 01:08 am (UTC)
I read about this in an article discussing the internet's reaction to Osama's death on msnbc.

It is strange.
[info]redleigh86 3rd-May-2011 01:39 am (UTC)
*meaning the sources are strange
[info]victimnextdoor 3rd-May-2011 01:08 am (UTC)
OT but I love this, and it gave me goosebumps. love me some dan choi
[info]tokenwhitegirl 3rd-May-2011 01:20 am (UTC)
Aw, what a nice moment.
[info]crash31 3rd-May-2011 01:34 am (UTC)
I ♥ moments like this
[info]youheadbuttyou 3rd-May-2011 01:39 am (UTC)
I love, love, love him.
[info]syzygy09 3rd-May-2011 01:41 am (UTC)
say what you will and complain all you want about college kids climbing trees and hitting beach balls in front of the White House...but the people in this video...THESE are the people DESERVE this celebration and fuck anyone who says otherwise.

IMO.
[info]syzygy09 3rd-May-2011 01:45 am (UTC)
same thing applies to the images of the FDNY watching the news in Times Square. They earned that moment.
[info]n0cturnaleakage 3rd-May-2011 01:47 am (UTC)
IASFM
[info]neptunepirate 3rd-May-2011 02:21 am (UTC)
word.
[info]likeomgitsalice 3rd-May-2011 02:26 am (UTC)
That and this video around 1 min and on, so heart warming.
[info]fil0li 3rd-May-2011 01:09 am (UTC)
i honestly find it really annoying and crass when people point out the death date coincidence

idk why exactly
[info]squishinator 3rd-May-2011 01:15 am (UTC)
how about the hitler death date comparison? it annoys the shit out of me bc i keep seeing it go along with peoples inane ideas that obama is lying about it to help his campaign.
[info]onesilkstocking 3rd-May-2011 01:24 am (UTC)
lol jfc
[info]floetcist 5th-May-2011 01:18 am (UTC)
Lol yeah. Apparently Obama one day woke up and decided he should catch Bin Laden just to get favorable poll ratings and/or the 2012 election campaign. Not like it was one of his 2008 campaign promises or anything.

I read someone say it was hard to believe that Obama somehow had bin Laden caught because he was just on Oprah smiling and doing a WH roast a few days ago.
[info]iheart_life 3rd-May-2011 01:27 am (UTC)
because it is trivializing an event which thousands of people have died in pursuit of by comparing it to a fictional book series.

I find it incredibly crass and ignorant bb, you aren't alone.
[info]thruruby 3rd-May-2011 02:17 am (UTC)
The entire article is crass, but I don't get the comments focusing on the death date? The writers are saying a human being's death is going to be super awesome for a film opening... that's the part of the article that seems the most bananas to me.
[info]dempsie 3rd-May-2011 01:09 am (UTC)
people comparing this to harry potter are actually complete idiots, hp fans on tumblr do this shit all the time and it makes me so embarrassed to be an hp fan
[info]hellopet 3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
ikr. so fucking dumb.
[info]fil0li 3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
ia ia and qt icon
[info]logan_lerman 3rd-May-2011 01:12 am (UTC)
seriously, hp fans on tumblr make me so embarrassed to even care about the series
[info]randomneses ugh3rd-May-2011 01:17 am (UTC)
dude, every world event some embarrassing idiot has to bring in hp. Like, I'm fucking SORRY but do not fucking compare Gadalfi and his forces to Voldemort and the DEs while the Libyan people are like, idek what they were compared to, the rest of the wizarding world in peril~

Just, SO embarrassed to be an hp fan when this happens
[info]dempsie Re: ugh3rd-May-2011 01:22 am (UTC)
ikr! like i'm totally for connecting hp to things and broadening it and making literature and pop culture accessible but when i say that i mean like comparing it to other literature and things in pop culture! not SERIOUS shit that's going on in the world, because not only is that so offensive i don't even know where to start, harry potter is not real and people just need to sit the fuck down.

i am a hp stan, like i will fight to the ends of the earth over harry potter if someone wanted to, but the moment people do this shit i'm out lol
[info]thruruby Re: ugh3rd-May-2011 02:32 am (UTC)
It's the hp analogies that bother you? Not the fact that this article projects that the death of a human being is going to be ~great for the box office?
[info]strawberry_gumm 3rd-May-2011 01:20 am (UTC)
ikr
[info]bathstone 3rd-May-2011 01:47 am (UTC)
I'm a total HP stan and remember all the crazy fandom days but, yeah, this Voldemort = Osama thing is starting to annoy me. Big time.
[info]alacrities 3rd-May-2011 04:22 am (UTC)
iawtc. i mean i love harry potter, and i always will, but i don't involve myself with the fandom on tumblr because the fans can be so annoying.
[info]onaan 3rd-May-2011 05:16 pm (UTC)
iawtc
[info]mfbihp17 6th-May-2011 06:04 pm (UTC)
I think USA Today started it actually.
[info]mydogfred 3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
oh lord

posting this again because it gives me chills. and obama looks sexy as hell idgaf

[info]n0cturnaleakage 3rd-May-2011 01:13 am (UTC)
This pic is epic. Really captures the gravity of the situation.
[info]loonyluna26 3rd-May-2011 01:20 am (UTC)
I saw this on twitter and it gave me chills. But what exactly are they watching? Was it being recorded as it went down or something?
[info]mydogfred 3rd-May-2011 01:22 am (UTC)
yeah this is them watching the raid

crazy intense
[info]floetcist 5th-May-2011 01:27 am (UTC)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5680724572/in/photostream

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011.
[info]boomstick Wow.3rd-May-2011 01:32 am (UTC)
I'm still in awe at how at ease he seemed during the times this was being planned and going down. He is just beyond cool and collected, even during crazy stressful times.
[info]jordanchase 3rd-May-2011 01:37 am (UTC)
i am loving hillary's shocked face.
[info]jynnantonnyx28 3rd-May-2011 01:41 am (UTC)
I don't know why but what striked me most about this picture is that Obama is dressed down and sitting on the side ... guys, he's the president, let him have a spot at the table.
[info]iheartfamke 3rd-May-2011 01:53 am (UTC)
H(Sos)BIC HILLARY IN THE WHITE HIZZOUSE!!
[info]londonshowers 3rd-May-2011 03:08 am (UTC)
guy on Hil's right sorta looks like Malcolm Tucker
[info]writtenbyhand 3rd-May-2011 01:10 am (UTC)
This is ridiculous.
Although I do admit that manip scares the hell out of me Idk why
[info]rhrsoulmates 3rd-May-2011 01:14 am (UTC)
I think it's the teeth. (I'd confirm but I need to sleep tonight so I don't want to scroll up to check. :p)
[info]logan_lerman 3rd-May-2011 01:11 am (UTC)
whoever wrote this was probably saw the dumbass post on tumblr with this whole shit about comparing hp and osama's death
[info]andbetty 3rd-May-2011 01:12 am (UTC)
i feel sorry for anyone so dumb they need a children's fantasy series to put this in perspective.
[info]writtenbyhand 3rd-May-2011 01:19 am (UTC)
Though I do think there are a lot of kids on the internet who are too young to really remember 9/11 now.
[info]team_switz 3rd-May-2011 01:12 am (UTC)
It was funny in twitter and all, but Osama probably died a few days ago.
[info]skeet_skeet 3rd-May-2011 01:58 am (UTC)
No he died yesterday, and it was confirmed by the White House.
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