ONTD

3:51 pm - 08/16/2010

Five Reasons Behind The Failure Of Scott Pilgrim

The box office numbers are in and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World isn't just flop, it's one of the biggest bombs of the year. On the internet it's been nothing but hype for months, but that hype only translated into a dismal fifth place opening and a $10 million in earnings which only got harder to earn as the weekend went on. Scott Pilgrim made almost half of its total on opening night. Not exactly an encouraging figure if you're hoping it'll make more money with momentum built through word of mouth. When it comes to momentum, there is none. Barring some overseas miracle there's no way it'll ever make back it's $60 million budget theatrically, and if you're a fan of director Edgar Wright's work, you're either busy convincing yourself that box office doesn't matter (it does, he'll have a harder time getting the money he needs for his next project now) or you're sitting around wondering just where it all went wrong. I have answers.

Over the next few days you're going to hear a lot of excuses. Some will claim that it wasn't in enough theaters since it opened on 400 fewer screens than The Expendables. People are going to blame the movie's marketing. Some are already blaming those numerous free screenings held in advance of the movie's release. None of this explains where this movie went wrong, none of this explains why audiences simply weren't interested. Here are five things which do:




People Over 30 Don't Get It
Because the movie's marketing was such an accurate representation of the film I think it's fair to say that most of the people who saw ads for it had a pretty good idea of what they were going to see. And they didn't want to see it. In particular people over the age of 30 didn't want to see it. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World is basically about a group of twenty-something douche bags. It's a movie about the kinds of individuals anyone over 30 with a job would like to see introduced to a cattle prod. Seriously, you're out there working for a living, you've got two screaming kids, do you really want to go spend your hard-earned money watching a kid whine about how he has to be in bands and stuff and hang out a lot? Probably not. It looked like a movie about kids, for kids, and to some extent that's true. Scott Pilgrim revels in the slacker generation and even though, in the end, it's sort of a movie about growing up and if you stick with it the whole thing comes together into something brilliant… for the most part it's happy to be about lazy, narcissistic, 20-year-old hipsters. And if you're over 30, that just ain't cool.


People Under 30 Don't Get It
While Scott Pilgrim is about teens and recent teens, the way it goes about telling it's story isn't exactly teen friendly. The film is steeped in video game culture which, while that might seem like something the kids can latch on to, in this case isn't. That's evident right from the movie's first frame where the Universal Pictures logo is redone using 8-bit graphics which look like they were created for the original NES. 20-year-old hipsters weren't even born back when me and my now thirty-something friends first dragged out all the cables to hook our first ever Nintendo up to the television for a round or two of Duck Hunt. The movie's steeped not just in video games, but in classic video game references which kids probably aren't interested in and even if they were, almost certainly wouldn't get. It's more than video games really, the film is populated with all sorts of ridiculously fun, outdated references. There's even a Seinfeld scene and I'm pretty sure the desert sequence is a reference to Wayne's World 2. For most kids, the Atari 2600 is just something you get on a t-shirt, and if you reference Super Mario Bros. 2 in a movie, there's a pretty good chance they won't know what it is.


Geeks Don't Get It
When anyone mentions Scott Pilgrim they invariably paint it with a geek paintbrush. People assume that just because it's based on a comic book it's a movie for nerds, geeks and awkward, dateless dudes. And maybe geeks do read the comic its based on, but Scott Pilgrim is not exactly a geek film. This is a movie about a slacker musician who's biggest problem is choosing which of the two hot girls he's dating he most wants to sleep with. He spends his nights hanging out at cool clubs where he rocks out on stage and his days planning another balls to the wall brawl with an enemy. This is a movie about guys who are in bands and stuff, not geeks sitting around in their parents' basements playing World of Warcraft. Somehow we seem to have confused the two and for some reason any movie about young people is automatically mislabled as a geek film. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World is not a geek movie. It doesn't have any geeks in it and, apparently, none of them showed up to see it either. Maybe they should have worked in a lightsaber sequence or had Brandon Routh give Scott Pilgrim a wedgie. Odds are most geeks simply didn't get the appeal of a movie about cool guys with guitars pretending to like video games and stayed home with an actual video game called Starcraft II.



People hate Michael Cera
There's a reason this viral video containing a collection of shots in which Michael Cera gets punched in the face was insanely popular, and no it isn't because people were excited about Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. While he has his fans, people hate Michael Cera. They hate him a lot. In particular they hate that he always plays the same character and he did it again in Scott Pilgrim. Audiences are sick of it. They're sick of him. They're especially sick of him as a leading man. Maybe that's not fair. In fact I'm almost certain it isn't. I think what people are really sick of is the whole hipster subculture, a group which has been in many cases been confused by Hollywood with geeks, when they're not. Even more than they hate Michael Cera, mainstream America hates hipsters. And if the hipster movement has a mascot, it's Cera. The box office performance of his films has grown progressively worse since Superbad, almost in concert with the number of angry “I hate hipsters” comments sure to be left on any internet story invoking his name. Scott Pilgrim just had the misfortune to be there at the place where the whole Michael Cera thing all bottomed out.


Scott Pilgrim Is A Musical Without Songs
We've talked a lot about what Scott Pilgrim isn't, let's talk about what it is. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World is a musical. Not because of the indie-rock soundtrack, which is kind of awesome. Actually there aren't really many songs in the film and there's definitely no dancing. Instead what Edgar Wright has done is take the musical format and apply it to, well, fighting. In a musical characters break into song and dance whenever there's something too big to be expressed by words. In a musical you learn about each character's personality through what he sings. Sometimes the songs even move the plot along or help change someone's perspective. Scott Pilgrim uses its fights in the same way. Scott Pilgrim fights whenever there's something too big to express with dialogue, something too important to simply say. It's through these elaborate, colorful, fights that Scott's personality changes and grows. It's because of his fights that he eventually realizes he lacks self-respect, and when he gets some, that's part of a fight too. Except musicals aren't for everyone and even the best musicals always have their detractors. Even if you didn't realize that's what Wright was doing with the movie, the same things which people hate about musicals are present in the trailers and, whether they knew it or not, probably had a hand in keeping them away. Some people simply don't get musicals. Normally that's ok since there's a dedicated crowd of moviegoers who do get it, and show up for a musical anyway, but the musical moviegoer isn't showing up for a fight movie and neither did anyone else.

Here's what it all comes down to: There were big expectations for Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, but only from the handful of people who'd already seen it. But it was always a movie without a specific audience. It's a broad movie built on a lot of different niche elements, and as much as we'd like to believe moviegoers are open-minded enough to step outside their comfort zone, most of the time they won't. The mistake was in thinking that all the different audiences Scott Pilgrim speaks to were the same audience, when they're not.

People say it's become cool to be a geek. That's not true. People have just started applying the word geek to cool people. Hipsters aren't geeks and geeks aren't rock musicians and rock musicians aren't old school gamers and aging gamers don't like musicals. In a perfect world none of that would matter and people would simply show up to the theater and be blown away by the innovative level of creativity on display in Scott Pilgrim, but you have to get them there first.

Maybe Universal could have lied more in the marketing, but it's hard to fault them for being honest about the movie they had to offer. They were proud of Edgar Wright's work, and advertised it accordingly. Deadline says Universal knew it would flop, but they also knew it was good, and simply didn't care. Perhaps they're banking on it finding new life as a massive cult hit on DVD, and that's exactly what it deserves to be. To make that happen, it's up to you and me. Scott Pilgrim's a flop and it'll take a minor miracle to turn that around before theater owners give up and stop showing it. But maybe, if it's lucky, Pilgrim will find new life somewhere down the road as a must-see Netflix rental. When it hits Blu-ray, buy it and force it on your friends. Whether they're potheads or nerds, ravers or comic book readers, they'll thank you for it. It's Scott Pilgrim fans vs. the World.

source


for the record, i saw it and loved it. it was really a great movie. oh, and don't worry if you want more original, creative films like this. the expendables 2 is already in the works. i hope you're happy with yourselves, america
bizarrre 16th-Aug-2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
IMO, it looked too hipstery and corny. And i hate michael cera.
watermeloncholy 16th-Aug-2010 11:28 pm (UTC)
It wasn't really either of those things and a lot of people who dislike Michael Cera still seemed to like it.
thewalkingman 17th-Aug-2010 01:26 am (UTC)
it wasn't hipstery? ORLY? Did you see it?
liselaime 17th-Aug-2010 02:18 am (UTC)
Yeah, I hate Michael Cera and I've never read the comic books and I thought the movie was really cute and entertaining.
rachyque 16th-Aug-2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
People need to get over the Michael Cera thing.
abcdlovelife 16th-Aug-2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
i don't like him either but the movie was awesome
_chae 16th-Aug-2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
THIS. and the article didnt do anything to sway me to see it. if i dont like the main character and the concept sounds retarded, why WOULD i go?
soma910 16th-Aug-2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
I hate Michael Cera too, but he wasn't bad in this movie.
girltype I hate that fool and I STILL liked the movie.16th-Aug-2010 11:44 pm (UTC)
If I wasn't a fan of the comics beforehand, I wouldn't have touched this movie at all because of Cera.
chemchick 16th-Aug-2010 11:50 pm (UTC)
I hate michael cera too. That's the only reason I didn't go see it.
pariskt 17th-Aug-2010 12:33 am (UTC)
this. i cannot fucking stand michael cera. he cannot act and i want him to ago away.
la_sikka 17th-Aug-2010 12:44 am (UTC)
medranochav 17th-Aug-2010 03:51 am (UTC)
the supporting cast/character's are a good distraction. The music and style trumps whatever kind of atrocity he seems to remain by playing the character of Scott. But really Keiran Culkin makes the movie worth it. And his presence is greater than that turtle's Michael Cera.

I will say the idea that girls are fighting over someone who looks and behaves like Michael Cera is kind of laughable.
slashxwhoreorly 17th-Aug-2010 05:45 am (UTC)
For the longest I felt like no one hated Michael Cera but me
mrbnatural 17th-Aug-2010 08:50 pm (UTC)
I'm with you.

And I fucking LOVED Arrested Development.
sassandthecity 16th-Aug-2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
Has it really failed though? It might be one of those movies that builds with good word of mouth.
andromedabastow But is there good word of mouth for it?16th-Aug-2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
Not trying to be a wisecrack (pointless to do that on ONTD) but I'm curious it looks like few people that watched it liked it enough to rewatch or take friends with.
sassandthecity Re: But is there good word of mouth for it?16th-Aug-2010 11:36 pm (UTC)
I feel like it has the making of at least a cult hit if not a full-out box office dynamo. I think its second week is going to be the indicator. Word of mouth basically saying, "It's good EVEN if you hate Michael Cera."
papermint Re: But is there good word of mouth for it?16th-Aug-2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
I saw it on opening night, and it was tons of fun. Most of the people I saw it with the first time went again yesterday and brought a few new people along.
madwatch Re: But is there good word of mouth for it?17th-Aug-2010 12:20 am (UTC)
I went twice, with big groups both times.
spider_rogue Re: But is there good word of mouth for it?17th-Aug-2010 12:21 am (UTC)
I watched it for free the first time and I wanted to go over the weekend to help box office numbers but my mom wants to see it and she couldn't. -_-
punkydudeychick Re: But is there good word of mouth for it?17th-Aug-2010 12:33 am (UTC)
I liked it enough to see it again.
rachyque 16th-Aug-2010 11:57 pm (UTC)
It has been trending on Twitter all day. That must mean something?
lawzl 17th-Aug-2010 12:20 am (UTC)
um exactly it just came out
peralta 16th-Aug-2010 11:25 pm (UTC)
im just tired of seeing michael cera play the same role over and over again.
etoile_amore 16th-Aug-2010 11:28 pm (UTC)
IT'S NOT THE SAME ROLE.
Don't jump to conclusions unless you know the plot.
peralta 16th-Aug-2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
Actually, I do, thank you! No one is ragging on the comic book or the movie adaptation. Michael Cera is just overexposed. Settle down.

xoxo
morphine 16th-Aug-2010 11:35 pm (UTC)
i saw the movie and loved it, but seriously? it's pretty much the same role.
trashic 16th-Aug-2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
is it about a boring ass ugly white dude with a quirky speech pattern who somehow gets the girl in the end?
queerinmesoftly 16th-Aug-2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
oh, please explain how it's not. i would LOVE to hear your brilliant analysis.
medranochav 17th-Aug-2010 03:53 am (UTC)
it's the same shitty role honey.

except he's even skinnier/flabbier in this movie. That's the only difference.


Still a great movie though.
pikakyo 17th-Aug-2010 12:18 am (UTC)
BUT THIS TIME!!! Michael Cera plays an awkward asshole instead of the loveable awkward loser-type.
giddyromance 17th-Aug-2010 12:30 am (UTC)
This. Can we just go back to the good old days when he was George Michael running around the garage with his lightsaber?
lolzerz 17th-Aug-2010 04:18 am (UTC)
hes not a virgin in this movie. jsyk.
jinxeh13 17th-Aug-2010 09:03 am (UTC)
It's really not the same role, though...usually, Cera plays the awkward virgin that loses at everything. In Scott Pilgrim, he's a heartbreaker that is constantly dating girls and then dismissing them, quite an adept fighter, and wins at most of the things he puts himself to. He plays up the awkward thing a bit too, sure, but otherwise...eh. And this is coming from someone who cringed when she found out he'd be playing Scott.
degele 16th-Aug-2010 11:25 pm (UTC)
failure? it was completely sold out when i tried to see it a few days ago
degele 16th-Aug-2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
aw but then again it was a free screening so...
_chae 16th-Aug-2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
lol
rvrthms 16th-Aug-2010 11:35 pm (UTC)
LOL
flashstruck 16th-Aug-2010 11:39 pm (UTC)
lmao
tiajuanabible 16th-Aug-2010 11:51 pm (UTC)
ROFL@sold out
bluepassiflora 16th-Aug-2010 11:58 pm (UTC)
I think that is a problem no one mentioned. It seemed to have a lot of free screenings. Maybe everyone that wanted to see already had.
beating_heartss 16th-Aug-2010 11:25 pm (UTC)
The reason why it "failed" was because the movie is very specific and appeals to a very specific demographic that is small. It doesn't appeal to different demographics like other comic book movies, especially the way in which it was advertised.

I personally hated the movie, I thought it was too long and the fights kind of blended together by the end. Not to mention, I really can't stand manga/anime and a lot of those qualities were put into the movie.
aprilfunk 17th-Aug-2010 12:03 am (UTC)
I so agree with your first point. Iron Man is a comic book movie, but all kinds of people love it anyway.
jaded_fae 17th-Aug-2010 05:06 am (UTC)
That's because of the sexy bitch in the lead role. I totally agree.
slutdrunkmystag 17th-Aug-2010 04:18 am (UTC)
It is definitely aimed towards a very specific demographic, so did they really think it was going to be a huge huge hit?

Personally, I'm turned off from it because everyone in the trailer looks a little too pleased with themselves.
tx5mym5 17th-Aug-2010 06:58 am (UTC)
you don't like manga/anime, comics, or video games? Yeah, it wasn't your cup of tea.
angstandennui 18th-Aug-2010 04:32 am (UTC)
What manga/anime qualities were put into the movie? I mean, I know Bryan Lee O'Malley's style was heavily influenced by manga, but it's not really visible in the film since the characters are played by actors, not animated.

Other than Scott wearing an Astro Boy shirt in one scene, I can't think of any other references to anime/manga in the film. It seemed like most of it was based on video games and video game references...
anna_salem 16th-Aug-2010 11:25 pm (UTC)
Oh I don't know. Could it be because you showed it for FREE at COMIC-CON?!
iheartgerryb 16th-Aug-2010 11:53 pm (UTC)
I watched it at comic-con then paid to see it two more times. comic-con showings really don't have anything to do with it
oshunanat 16th-Aug-2010 11:59 pm (UTC)
Comic Con didn't, but by the same token I got no less then six different free screening invites.

Have enough free screens for a film with a built-in limited audience and you can shoot yourself in the foot when it comes time to get people to pay.
sirose 17th-Aug-2010 12:39 am (UTC)
I did the same!
tx5mym5 17th-Aug-2010 06:59 am (UTC)
No. People at SDCC and other stuff are usually the hardcore fans who would pay to see it again. and again. and again.
annyong 16th-Aug-2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
it only made about 10 million over the weekend, coming in 5th place
watermeloncholy 16th-Aug-2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
It didn't bomb critically
hannahstarr 16th-Aug-2010 11:50 pm (UTC)
It bombed in terms of $$ but not ratings. So far, everyone I know who has seen it loved it. And it's gotten good reviews too
beaute__exquise 16th-Aug-2010 11:25 pm (UTC)
THE ONLY REASON: NEEDED MORE CULKIN
beating_heartss 16th-Aug-2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
SERIOUSLY, he was the only good part
bostongirl2003 17th-Aug-2010 12:49 am (UTC)
I agree that he was fantastic, but I thought the sister was good too. Granted, she had about 5 mins of screen time.
inflixion 16th-Aug-2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
It's just a fact.
annyong 16th-Aug-2010 11:28 pm (UTC)
rofl he was one of the best parts
rc 16th-Aug-2010 11:37 pm (UTC)
I would've def. enjoyed it more if there was less Cera and more Culkin.
mentiritas 16th-Aug-2010 11:40 pm (UTC)
wtf? he's in this? sweet!
jamamamie 16th-Aug-2010 11:56 pm (UTC)
I completely agree with this. I wish he was in it more!
honeynutcherri 17th-Aug-2010 12:07 am (UTC)
Yes!!!!
ocelot_summer 17th-Aug-2010 02:25 am (UTC)
YES YES YES.

ahoy_hoyy 17th-Aug-2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
yes.
masterofmystery 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
People hate Michael Cera

pretty much
d_marti 16th-Aug-2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
Fuck this article this is the true reason.
dasvedanyaanya 17th-Aug-2010 01:03 am (UTC)
lol did you read the article, just curious?

because that's the 2nd point, and it's bolded. You have wrongly insulted the article :(
turi 16th-Aug-2010 11:37 pm (UTC)
everyone I know was like, I HATE CERA.. but I wanna see this movie.
stellar_kar 16th-Aug-2010 11:44 pm (UTC)
IA I love Edgar Wright but dislike Michael Cera and yeah my dislike overruled my like haha
happens 17th-Aug-2010 12:09 am (UTC)
Yep. I can't stand him. >:O
bikinikilledme 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
AWWW people really seemed to like it. I was gonna see it once I got over my Inception fever.
watermeloncholy 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
This article is kind of meh.

Every geek I know saw this. And I know a lot of geeks.

I'm a little puzzled as to why it didn't do as well, but it had a ton of competition over the weekend. It's not that surprising and I'm sure Universal was expecting it. Most analysts predicted it to open at #4.
afire 16th-Aug-2010 11:32 pm (UTC)
the thing is that every geek probably already saw it at a free screening before the movie came out :( i know like half my friends did
watermeloncholy 16th-Aug-2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
Good point. I did get to see it way before it came out, which is probably why I wasn't rushing to the theatre this weekend. I did want to see it again (to support the box office etc), but my movie buddy wasn't up to it either. We'll likely see it this upcoming weekend instead.
eleven59 16th-Aug-2010 11:47 pm (UTC)
I love your userpic.
It was my last.fm picture for the longest time, but I couldn't remember who did it.
snoozeen 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
The first two points are stupid. Especially the first.
pariskt 17th-Aug-2010 12:41 am (UTC)
speaking as someone in her late twenties, i disagree. i kinda feel too old to go spend my hard earned cash to see this, but also feel like i would really enjoy it for all the reasons the author claims people under thirty would not like it.
larrylurker 17th-Aug-2010 01:01 am (UTC)
paradox you are
ohkimosabe 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
How can you hate Michael Cera he's a little turtle
d_marti 16th-Aug-2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
A turtle that needs to be lost and forgotten behind a sofa.
rvrthms 16th-Aug-2010 11:37 pm (UTC)
a turtle that filled his shell with smugness and its own feces.
lumbergh 16th-Aug-2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
I don't like Michael Cera either but that's such a sad image :(
brownxeyedxdork 16th-Aug-2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
D:
mcra7x13 16th-Aug-2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
my sister had a hermit crab who lost it's shell and she like found it alive under her refrigerator shell-less and alive. it was living off crumbs and shit so scurry.
means_toanend 16th-Aug-2010 11:57 pm (UTC)
LMAO
shadyoutkast 16th-Aug-2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
i hate turtles.
spider_rogue 17th-Aug-2010 12:24 am (UTC)
lol

my friends and I used to liken him to a puppy with a limp. and a twitch. or something.
beaute__exquise 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
Also, I just had a conversation with my sister about Michael Cera looking frail. JSYK.
violue 16th-Aug-2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to love it.


Just like I loved Speed Racer. Fuck the Speed Racer haters!!
jasonbeast 16th-Aug-2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
Speed Racer was brilliant. Nobody's ever come closer to full-on, live-action anime. Parts of it were cheesy, but come on ... there was so much great stuff going on! I'm disappointed that it bombed, that could have been a cool franchise.
trixx_r4_kidz 17th-Aug-2010 12:03 am (UTC)
agreed
_spiderwebs 17th-Aug-2010 01:20 am (UTC)
I don't like anime but i used to watch speed racer as a kid, but i fucking HATED that movie...but i love Emile Hirsch. guess i'm emotionally conflicted.
michechan 17th-Aug-2010 07:20 am (UTC)
mte it was so silly and fun :[
devlinacardigan 16th-Aug-2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
I love Speed Racer too. Emile Hirsch never looked better.
lolita_eva 16th-Aug-2010 11:35 pm (UTC)
Speed Racer was AWESOME.
masterofmystery 16th-Aug-2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
speed racer was awesome, but the cheesy scenes and PG-rating kind of ruined its rep
rvrthms 16th-Aug-2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
i loved speed racer and have tried to get everyone i know to watch it-- it a colorful explosion of FUN.
watermeloncholy 16th-Aug-2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
I freaking loved Speed Racer too lol
shonen_key 16th-Aug-2010 11:46 pm (UTC)
I fucking love Speed Racer
girltype 16th-Aug-2010 11:46 pm (UTC)
lol, how funny because I loved Speed Racer to DEATH. It was so well made and a bit cheesy but it was GOOD. So sad to see that movie bomb.
trixx_r4_kidz 17th-Aug-2010 12:04 am (UTC)
Speed Racer is way ahead of its time. I'm almost happy it bombed. It's seriously a cinematic treasure.
aprilfunk 17th-Aug-2010 12:09 am (UTC)
Speed Racer was gorgeous to look at. I paid for it and enjoyed it, lol. It's one of those movies you would really appreciate in blu-ray/HD/etc
senkig 17th-Aug-2010 01:09 am (UTC)
People just really didn't understand what Speed Racer wanted to be, so they hated it. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CORNY AND IT DID THAT REALLY WELL
recognitions 17th-Aug-2010 01:24 am (UTC)
I hated the cartoon.
clever_girl 17th-Aug-2010 02:15 am (UTC)
I was surprised by how much I liked Speed Racer. I was surprised by how much most people DIDN'T like Speed Racer. I was just surprised by Speed Racer overall.

/cool story bro
/cool movie, though
This page was loaded May 19th 2013, 9:09 am GMT.