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6:15 am - 06/29/2010

Toy Story 3 Not Sexist Says Anthropologist!



Bolded for the tl;dr crowd.



A sad, strange little review of the new Toy Story movie in Ms. Magazine has kept me busy blogging on their site. You can see my responses to the conversation going on there but I thought I would expand some of those ideas here.

The premise of that Ms. Magazine article is that Toy Story 3 ”displays the same careless sexism as its predecessors.” My problem was where to start with just this sentence. “Same careless sexism”: what does that mean? The same sexism as TS1 and TS2? Those were sexist movies? What bizarre definition of sexism is being used here? And why is this sexism “careless” rather than deliberate? I claim that movies cannot be sexist, that sexism is a quality only people possess, people who hate women and don’t want to see them as valuable being. I can’t possibly think how a movie does what only people can do.

It seems that the basis for all the accusations of sexism is a headcount: the deep concern about this movie is that there are less female characters than male, that the female charaters act less heroic (my term), and that Ken (yes, that Ken) is depicted as a closet homosexual. Human and toy characters are counted male and female, as if they were all human. Is a toy female the same as a human female? Is Lotso, a bear that smells of strawberries, counted as male? Is Barbie female? Are some feminists now embracing Barbie because they can add her to the body count?

Let’s start with Ken and Barbie. I had a Ken doll growing up (in the 1960s) as well as Barbie. I still have them. Despite all the fears of this movies critic and many others over the years, I nevertheless became a feminist. Go figure. But I am not a count-the-numbers feminist because that approach is simply awful, as this review of Toy Story 3 demonstrates. What weird balancing act does this author want: every time a male character speaks, a female character has to speak? Every time a male toy enters the room, a female toy has to stand up an be counted? That’s not a story, and it’s not Toy Story.

Back to Ken, my Ken. Ken, we noticed very early on, had problems. Ken’s arm always fell off so we made him a war veteran. But also, he had no genitals (or body hair for that matter). Ken was then and is now not a closet homosexual, he’s a eunuch, and we loved him for it! Ken was Barbie’s best friend (like Ned in Nancy Drew) and he loved fashion as much as she did. Like the other guys we liked in the 60s and 70s (hippe-types, Alan Alda, the Beatles) he had a style sense that was not based in macho posturing (ie, G.I. Joe). So the Ken in Toy Story 3 is not depicted as a closet gay, he is Ken in all his genital-free glory (with a great closet too!). Does he count in this odd version of feminist analysis as male or female? My point in starting with Ken is that this very outdated approach to analyzing the media (counting male vs female characters) is just pointless and even with toys (or especially with toys), impossible.

The author of the Ms. Magazine article, Dr. Natalie Wilson, points to research supported by the Geena Davis (yes, that Geena Davis) Institute on Gender and Media to support her claim (and this is an old claim long ago refuted) that having more males than females in our media makes us “internalize stereotypical ideas of what men and women are supposed to be like.” Two questions that as an anthropologist I have to ask: what is your definition of stereotype, and why do you think this is “internalized?” All the arguments in this article and in the Geena Davis website fall back on pop-psychology. They all see media as a magical machine that injects ideas into our heads and bodies, like a virus that is hard to shake.

I, as an anthropologist, instead see media (tv, radio, movies, books, games, etc) as MEDIA, as forms or vehicles for conveying stories. What is interesting is what people do with these stories and this in not an “internal” act: it is a cultural exchange. The mistake Wilson makes is that she thinks she can tell us what Toy Story 3 really means (as if we were too dumb to see the “truth” ourselves). I, instead look at the conversations that a movie evokes, the emotions is inspires (I know many people who cried at Toy Story 3: does that make it less or more sexist???). I look at how people wrestle with the contradictions in a movie, the rules it sets up and breaks, the metaphors it tries to inspire, the symbols it uses correctly and incorrectly, the way characters set up one expectation but fulfill another. People refer back to movies all the time because they offer us a common reference for options, a fictional example we can use to inform our realworld lives.

As Woody would say, “YOU ARE A STORY! YOU’RE NOT FROM THE REAL WORLD! YOU ARE A CHILD’S PLAYTHING!” As stories, movies have no obligation to match or support reality. Instead they give us an alternative reality that shows how cultures and humans and politics and everything else works in these different fictional conditions. If movies teach us anything, it is that we need them to make sense of all our possibilites in the actual world because it is impossible for most of us to have enough expereinces with different cultures to know what the other possibilities are. This is why we love movies like Toy Story. Even with the inhabitants of the world being toys, we get to see how characters make judgments,what makes them valuable and trustworthy, how important friendship and love are, what family means, what it means to be human.

It disturbs me that the Geena Davis Institute tells people to go count the number of times men vs women speak in a tv show or movie and to report it back to them. What is the point of that? It is based, apparently, on some research that says that the more media a child watches, and the more “stereotypes” are in that media, the more that child will believe and act in a stereotyped manner. Well, I hate to put it this way but, Duh! Of course the little idiots who sit in front of the tv all day will act like tv characters because they have not been exposed to the wonderous variety of human activities. Movies and tv can give us some glimpses of these things but they need to be just part of the flow of everyday life that also includes playing baseball, riding a bike, putting on costumes, taking a photograph, playing a board game, reading a book, making a bracelet, walking in the ocean, running in the rain, listening to music, looking at the sky, visiting a museum, following an ant, flying a balloon, digging a hole, eating ice cream, working in the garden, playing hide-n-seek, watching a parade, talking to someone old, knitting and sewing, making Mr. Potato Head look weird, and yes, dressing Ken in a dress.

Has anyone ever met these kids who were exposed to so much tv that all they did was act like the stereotypical (whatever that is) females on tv? Don’t these kids have aunties who take them fishing and grandpas who take them shopping and teachers who read to them and neighbors who teach them how to whistle? Doesn’t that break whatever stereotypes they may be seeing on tv? Or does real experience not count? For you see, in this mindset that claims to seek sexism, what it really is seeking is an excuse to blame all sorts of media for everything that is actually a normal part of human life.

Media is just one tool a culture uses to convey its stories, its values, its rules, its expectations, its rituals and symbols. Kids can learn things from media and they can unlearn them just as easily. Instead of wasting time counting heads on tv, taking your kid to Toy Story 3 (or TS1 or TS2) is a much better lesson in what happens when we forget what is important, why friends are cool, or when to let go of the past and face a new future. In short, this movie has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with the wonders of life. And yes, damn it Ken, that is one nice townhouse you got there…


Source: http://anthroeye.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/why-anthropology-proves-toy-story-3-is-not-sexist/

Sorry Mods! Cut is Fixed!
Oh, I love you Ken!!
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affliction 29th-Jun-2010 12:23 pm (UTC)
Jfc.

OH HAY GEENA, I'LL NEVER SEE YOU THE SAME ANYMORE. YOU CAN FORGET ME WATCHING STUART LITTLE JUST FOR YOU.

Edited at 2010-06-29 12:24 pm (UTC)
piratesswoop 29th-Jun-2010 12:26 pm (UTC)
toy story 3 was the best movie i have seen in years
hollis1975 29th-Jun-2010 04:51 pm (UTC)
THIS.


i havent enjoyed a movie so THOROUGHLY in so long.
teasailor 29th-Jun-2010 05:13 pm (UTC)
I still haven't seen it yet... wtf. I was watching Toy Story 2 yesterday with my nephew for the millionth time and practically bawling my eyes out, lol.
foxy_hues 29th-Jun-2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
im seeing it tonight. so excited!
joaniemaloney 29th-Jun-2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
honestly, it's way up there.
angi_is_altered 29th-Jun-2010 12:27 pm (UTC)
Seriously,just because my daughter plays with dolls,like princess stuff and plays dress-up does not mean she is going to grow up to be some brainless twit. It makes her happy. I AM her parent and I AM the most important influence in her life.


Toy Story movies are wonderful!


People need to find cures for cancer and leave us parents to raise our kids!

Edited at 2010-06-29 12:29 pm (UTC)
elen_nibin 29th-Jun-2010 12:35 pm (UTC)
THIS!
angi_is_altered 29th-Jun-2010 12:39 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
mac7u3 29th-Jun-2010 02:29 pm (UTC)
I love you for this.
cartooneyes 29th-Jun-2010 03:00 pm (UTC)
This is a little late, but bravo bb, bravo. I have to agree; I don't have any kids yet, but from my own mother and looking at her growing up, it's amazing how much she has influenced me to what I am now. In fact, sometimes when I have tough decisions to make or things to go through, I think about "What would Mama do?" and it really helps, as opposed to what would somebody on tv/in a movie/in the tabloids are doing.
fromahippie 29th-Jun-2010 03:36 pm (UTC)
yesss
secretly 29th-Jun-2010 07:29 pm (UTC)
ia. i played with barbies when i was younger and turned out smart as hell js
wits 29th-Jun-2010 12:29 pm (UTC)
I don't think Toy Story 3 is sexist, but this is a HORRIBLE article. Oh my god, does this person have a degree?
rinygrin 29th-Jun-2010 12:31 pm (UTC)
Seriously.
angelic_isis 29th-Jun-2010 12:33 pm (UTC)
She does actually, multiple in fact. She is actually quite in tune with current feminist thinking in Anthropology and in the wider social sciences.
wits 29th-Jun-2010 12:37 pm (UTC)
I claim that movies cannot be sexist, that sexism is a quality only people possess, people who hate women and don’t want to see them as valuable being. I can’t possibly think how a movie does what only people can do.

A movie can portray those ideas. Is she going to claim that Birth of a Nation is not racist, because a movie can't do what only people can do?

Every time a male toy enters the room, a female toy has to stand up an be counted? That’s not a story, and it’s not Toy Story.

It's like she is missing the point on purpose.
casualelegance 29th-Jun-2010 01:05 pm (UTC)
I agree. Her ideas are interesting, but oh my gosh, it was a trial reading that.
anijen21 29th-Jun-2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
just what I came here to say, wtf
ellowyntinuviel 29th-Jun-2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
mte
rhapsodeeinblue 29th-Jun-2010 10:20 pm (UTC)
MTE
downerdebbie 29th-Jun-2010 12:34 pm (UTC)
I'm glad the anthropology dept has spoken up about this controversial issue
roxiful 29th-Jun-2010 02:41 pm (UTC)
lol seriously
anterogradenova 29th-Jun-2010 12:35 pm (UTC)
This person makes a sensible argument but she needs an English usage class. Some of these sentences boggled my mind.
higirlsetsfire 29th-Jun-2010 03:34 pm (UTC)
I always feel like people who study English end up worse off, tbh.

Well, I guess I'm biased because all the pretentious-without-any-substance-to-show-for-it hipsters I know decided to be English majors/writers because it was easy and free~~
foxy_hues 29th-Jun-2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
It's not easy if you're serious about learning!
minikinsaff 29th-Jun-2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
Free? Where?
pamkips 29th-Jun-2010 12:37 pm (UTC)
I finally saw it on Sunday, & omg I laughed & cried, I loved it.
professor_chaos 29th-Jun-2010 12:39 pm (UTC)
Some people have too much time on their hands if they need to make a movie about toys political. Jeepers fucking creepers.
firstblush 29th-Jun-2010 12:40 pm (UTC)
The only point I like about this article was "Even with the inhabitants of the world being toys, we get to see how characters make judgments,what makes them valuable and trustworthy, how important friendship and love are, what family means, what it means to be human." Because I feel like this is something that a lot of hollywood movie makers forget. With a lot of things now, it seems that movies are considered less marketable if they don't revolve solely around humans (ie. transformers), or like white-washing/adding a caucasian character to a non-caucasian centered story because they feel people (or that particular racial majority) can't identify with the story otherwise. I always thought the beauty in stories that didn't do that was that you could get the sense that what makes a person human/the beauty of humanity can transcend just superficial aspects. Got so annoyed with transformers 1 for adding the teenager storyline, not just because it was stupid, but I always felt one of the points of the original cartoon was to be like "hey look, see these robots? they may be machines but they are just like us, with their relationships and conflicts."

But I can't agree with the rest of this article because I think it brushes off too completely the idea that seeing something on TV has no influence on perpetuating stereotypes or prejudice at all. I found the article it was reacting to a bit extreme. But to act like this doesn't happen at all (or at least, from this article, it sounds like something the author doesn't think needs to be accounted for or changed), that certain subtle prejudices/stereotypes are never subconsciously reinforced by what we see on tv, especially when a lot of these are also the result of less blatantly obvious/recognized prejudices in ourselves as a group, is a bit naive.

tl;dr.

Edited at 2010-06-29 12:44 pm (UTC)
angelic_isis 29th-Jun-2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
I don't think she is arguing that sexism doesn't happen or that movies have no impact. Just that there are many more influences on young girls than just movies and tv. To attack movies as the sole cause ignores the realities of the problem.
firstblush 29th-Jun-2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
Maybe not. But I can't help but read the article and feel like she's saying you shouldn't criticize movies for any sexist aspects because that isn't the point of movies as the story itself is more important/how it makes you feel/moves you. And I don't agree with that. I think people take their analysis too far sometimes, but I don't think it's wrong to speak out against something in the media that keeps on happening.

I agree with you (and the writer) that there is more to the problem than just movies, but again, why assume that because a writer critiques one aspect of a problem, they don't care or recognize other factors? Or if they decide to specifically address one downfall, that they don't care or recognize its part of a greater problem. I mean, don't you have to start somewhere? I never got the sense that people criticizing sexism in movies, even in the article this one was reacting to, that they thought movies alone were the problem.

Edited at 2010-06-29 12:59 pm (UTC)
maythirteen 29th-Jun-2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
I don't think ANYONE is claiming this movie is the SOLE and ONLY contribution to sexism. It's part of a wider problem and it is a very important thing to note and discuss!
higirlsetsfire 29th-Jun-2010 03:38 pm (UTC)
They also ignored the idea that the film writers and producers, consciously or subconsciously, greatly influence what an audience will conclude. Any anthropologist with an interest in film should see the importance of the creation process alongside the importance of how an audience might interpret it.
rawr_jumbie 29th-Jun-2010 12:43 pm (UTC)
But it's a movie.... About toys.
foxy_hues 29th-Jun-2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
A+
rinygrin 29th-Jun-2010 12:45 pm (UTC)
Lol, this article.
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diamond_dust06 29th-Jun-2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
They all see media as a magical machine that injects ideas into our heads and bodies, like a virus that is hard to shake.

I stopped reading here. This guy woman is a shitty anthropologist. (Edit: The writer is a woman? Wow. I definitely did not expect such drivel from a woman who's not a member of CWFA.) Any biologist could tell you that this is exactly true. Read anything Richard Dawkins has written about memes. Cultural ideas and imagery are viral, and they are passed along in many different ways, including through popular media.

Edited at 2010-06-29 12:48 pm (UTC)
angelic_isis 29th-Jun-2010 12:53 pm (UTC)
hmm... I think you should keep reading. Also, she is actually pretty in line with current feminism and anthropology. :) But I understand if it is tl;dr ;)
narcotixx 29th-Jun-2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
oh my god. read some Jean Baudrillard. Just because you think she's pretty "in line with current feminism" (wtf does that mean, there are many feminisms) does not mean she's studied media or the effects of it. Baudrillard argues that in the world that many of us live in now, particularly Western Europe and North America, we take the simulation of the Real as the Real. It's a legit hypothesis that anyone who's "in line with current feminism" needs to be aware of.
noevoe978 29th-Jun-2010 12:56 pm (UTC)
I think she means that they sensationalize the affect.

She's saying that they think that the TV's message is irreversible and the messages it sends to us is imprinted in our brains and it's there forever.

If you had read on, you would have seen that she acknowledges that some TV is sexist but real life experience is stronger than television, so a female fireman or your mother being a fisherman or your grandpa taking you shopping can all dispel the stereotypes.
ginevrawp 29th-Jun-2010 04:25 pm (UTC)
I study social sciences and journalism, and can say that this whole "the media sends a message and everyone just accepts it" idea is obsolete. It was one of the first theories the Mass Communication Research school disected. Public opinion doesn't work according to the hypodermic needle model (this refers to the idea of the media injecting a message directly into each individual), and that's something Katz and Lazarsfeld proved in the fifties.

They later proposed the two step model, in which there are opinion leaders who explain and pass the media message to others.

There are newer theories now, but my point is, the media's influence on viewers isn't direct or viral. It is important but not nearly as much as interpersonal connections.
loganx2 29th-Jun-2010 12:48 pm (UTC)
noevoe978 29th-Jun-2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
PREACH.

I'm glad someone well known disputed the article.
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