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10:50 pm - 05/23/2010

Bret Easton Ellis: Women Can't Direct

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"I've gotta stop saying 'Women can't direct,'" tweeted Bret Easton Ellis after seeing Fish Tank. And yet here he is today, saying it again. You see, women lack a necessary implement (no, not a penis): "the male gaze."

Ellis is doing a week-long series at Movieline discussing his novels' screen adaptations. Up today: American Psycho, which was directed by Mary Harron. Asked by Kyle Buchanan about re-evaluating his stance on women directors after seeing Andrea Arnold's Fish Tank, Ellis said he'd also liked The Runaways.

"But for the most part I'm not totally convinced, [except for] Andrea Arnold, Kathryn Bigelow, Sofia Coppola…"

Not Mary Harron?
"Mary Harron to a degree. There's something about the medium of film itself that I think requires the male gaze."

What would that be?
"We're watching, and we're aroused by looking, whereas I don't think women respond that way to films, just because of how they're built."

You don't think they have an overt level of arousal?
"[They have one] that's not so stimulated by the visual. I think, to a degree, all the women I named aren't particularly visual directors. You could argue that Lost in Translation is beautiful, but is that [cinematographer Lance Acord]? I don't know. Regardless of the business aspect of things, is there a reason that there isn't a female Hitchcock or a female Scorsese or a female Spielberg? I don't know. I think it's a medium that really is built for the male gaze and for a male sensibility. I mean, the best art is made under not an indifference to, but a neutrality [toward] the kind of emotionalism that I think can be a trap for women directors. But I have to get over it, you're right, because so far this year, two of my favorite movies were made by women, Fish Tank and The Runaways. I've got to start rethinking that, although I have to say that a lot of the big studio movies I saw last year that were directed by women were far worse than the sh***y big-budget studio movies that were directed by men."

Which are we talking about?
"I mean, do I want to say this on the record? Did you see The Proposal? Anyway, whatever."


Where to start? The part where he sounds semi-apologetic about his misogyny and then reclaims it all over again to claim that The Proposal is worse than say, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen? How about the part where Ellis thinks a director is always responsible for the visual components of a movie, except for when that director is a woman like Sofia Coppola? Or that women don't have a visual sensibility because he thinks only men get one? Or when he says that all female directors are "emotionalist"?

It is tempting to go through one by one, and point out the absurdity of these claims. Then again, in addition to his printed and onscreen oeuvre, this is a man whose previous Tweets have included, "John Mayer in the March Playboy is one of the most interesting, funny and revelatory celebrity interviews I've ever read. He just gets it." In other words, his idea of revelatory is saying things that are deep-seated, prejudicial convention and protesting that everyone can't handle his edgy truth. So he really doesn't care if it's actually true or not.

For example, in the same interview, Ellis says, "I've always thought that the feminists got it totally wrong on [American Psycho. But I can't go there anymore." Presumably, that is because the feminist PC police has so exhausted him, he has to find new ways to articulate his disdain. I can't find a better way to articulate mine than Manohla on the same topic: Fuck him

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[info]evangelion 24th-May-2010 05:52 am (UTC)
wow, fuck you man.
[info]musicnextdoor 24th-May-2010 07:18 am (UTC)
THIS. What an idiot.
[info]luvthatdrtywata 24th-May-2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
In the immortal words of my nana - he is cruisin for a bruisin...
[info]secondanchor 24th-May-2010 05:52 am (UTC)
there are plenty of men who can't direct
[info]lonely_niamh 24th-May-2010 06:01 am (UTC)
THIS
[info]agnes_perdita Yeah but...24th-May-2010 07:45 am (UTC)


Replace math with directing/film-making
Actually, replace math with everything.
[info]sarahsumbrella 24th-May-2010 08:24 am (UTC)
IKR clearly he's never seen any of Kevin Smiths films.
[info]jessikins 24th-May-2010 02:49 pm (UTC)
Even if he did, men seem to all be convinced he's a fucking genius and believe anyone who doesn't is a fucking idiot.

Sorry for being a fucking idiot.
[info]copperknob 24th-May-2010 11:50 am (UTC)
Photobucket
[info]allopatric 24th-May-2010 05:52 am (UTC)
here we go~

douche
[info]angeriex 24th-May-2010 05:52 am (UTC)
Rude.

ALSO.

FFS, CAN WE PLEASE GET A LOST POST? Or at least turn a certain post into one? OMG NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT
[info]mistress_f 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
there's a 145 pages of comments post still going on
[info]nothingbutgold 24th-May-2010 05:56 am (UTC)
(ontd_lost)
[info]bluepassiflora 24th-May-2010 05:59 am (UTC)
Find something new to post as a LOST post. Maybe Jimmy Kimmell videos are up?
[info]tx5mym5 24th-May-2010 06:27 am (UTC)
go to ONTD_LOST or the LOST before they were famous post below.
[info]crazyboothsocks 24th-May-2010 07:36 am (UTC)
One of the better series finales I've seen.

LOVE THE ICON.
[info]boku_no_hanabi 24th-May-2010 12:51 pm (UTC)
I love YOUR icon. What's it from?
[info]ninjasuperhero 24th-May-2010 05:53 am (UTC)
What the deuce
[info]britty_stitches 24th-May-2010 09:05 am (UTC)
Lmao.
[info]emilenshook 24th-May-2010 05:53 am (UTC)
Who?
[info]iamcheryltweedy 24th-May-2010 05:56 am (UTC)
some overhyped douchebag
[info]rinygrin 24th-May-2010 07:13 am (UTC)
Mmhm.
[info]joelies1619 24th-May-2010 03:36 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't say overhyped
[info]guccipucci 24th-May-2010 10:55 am (UTC)
do you read books jw
[info]joelies1619 24th-May-2010 03:35 pm (UTC)
OLD
[info]janey 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
are you kidding me with this shit, bret easton ellis?
[info]mylondoncalling 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
What a misogynistic ass.
[info]catinwig 24th-May-2010 05:59 am (UTC)
who r u
[info]uglybunnie 24th-May-2010 06:47 am (UTC)
Hey cat where did you get your icon from?
[info]regeener 24th-May-2010 06:49 am (UTC)
LOL MS PAINT CAT ICON?
[info]mylondoncalling 24th-May-2010 08:15 am (UTC)
why do you keep asking me that?
[info]visceralvamp 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
What the fuckity fuck.
[info]captchasucks 24th-May-2010 06:51 am (UTC)
you tell him what's what, t. rex.
[info]starsaregas 24th-May-2010 12:43 pm (UTC)
LOL
[info]tsars 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
he is my favorite author
[info]analogpixels 24th-May-2010 06:48 am (UTC)
I am so sorry.
[info]peralta 24th-May-2010 09:30 am (UTC)
me too. he needs to settle down so i won't be embarassed to admit this.
[info]jorge_callas 24th-May-2010 10:38 am (UTC)
Oh dear, it sucks when your idols let you down, doesn't it? Mine do all the time. I'm surprised at him actually. He's a good friend of Donna Tartt.
[info]queeniegalore 24th-May-2010 01:11 pm (UTC)
Aww, fuck, that just made me like Donna Tartt slightly less. The Secret History was so awesome, though :(
[info]tericarl 24th-May-2010 02:27 pm (UTC)
eww
[info]srsmoonlight 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
bye bitch
[info]williammiller 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
Oh. So I guess I just graduated with a degree in film for nothing. Thanks Bret Easton Ellis!
[info]visceralvamp 24th-May-2010 05:55 am (UTC)
Girl, I didn't know you were a film major! Do you want to direct?
[info]williammiller 24th-May-2010 05:12 pm (UTC)
I do want to direct! It's either directing or editing for me.
[info]iamcheryltweedy 24th-May-2010 05:57 am (UTC)
yeah, if only you had the capacity to be aroused by imagery (which you obviously lack, his learnings tell him so)! Poor woman, how will you ever make it in the industry. :(
[info]snuffydoop 24th-May-2010 05:59 am (UTC)
whatever, it's not like you can do anything with it. your uterus is gonna fog up the camera ETERNALLY.
[info]__eskimo 24th-May-2010 06:00 am (UTC)
Same. (lol)
[info]fierywaif 24th-May-2010 06:01 am (UTC)
I'm getting a BFA in screenwriting but now feel like I must direct a film to prove Bret Easton Ellis wrong.
[info]hi_im_niko Congrats!24th-May-2010 06:01 am (UTC)
&&& Give ONTD a shoutout in your future ventures!
[info]persiascarecrow 24th-May-2010 06:21 am (UTC)
yeah, you should've just gotten married when you graduated from high school and become a housewife.
[info]iluvdykes 24th-May-2010 06:37 am (UTC)
IKR? Fricking dick. Has he forgotten all the. . .nevermind. I forgot. This is Bret Easton Ellis, we're talking about.
[info]vintagerose 24th-May-2010 06:39 am (UTC)
Yeah, you did, actually.
[info]rinygrin 24th-May-2010 07:15 am (UTC)
Mansplaining saves the day yet again. ~_~
[info]musicnextdoor 24th-May-2010 07:20 am (UTC)
Now, now, if you enjoyed your classes, it wasn't entirely for nothing!
[info]belle_chouette 24th-May-2010 07:45 am (UTC)
Yay, I hope you become famous and awesome. We need more female directors.
[info]keepacoolinbaby 24th-May-2010 09:31 pm (UTC)
Seriously dude, same here.
[info]ellelelle 24th-May-2010 10:16 pm (UTC)
almost famous 2?
[info]abiding 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
Don't know him, don't care to; he can go fuck himself.

Edited at 2010-05-24 05:55 am (UTC)
[info]srsmoonlight 24th-May-2010 05:56 am (UTC)
ia mia
[info]suave_badass 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
I have no idea who this guy is, so his opinion on directors means shit to me.
[info]spider_rogue 24th-May-2010 05:54 am (UTC)
"We're watching, and we're aroused by looking, whereas I don't think women respond that way to films, just because of how they're built."

boo you whore
[info]iamcheryltweedy 24th-May-2010 05:58 am (UTC)
he sure knows a lot about women's arousal...
[info]akasha6915 24th-May-2010 06:19 am (UTC)
Of course he does! He is a man! Men know all about a woman's arousal, where women don't anything, sill emotions.
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