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Thank god! So refreshing!

How old are fourth graders?

It's not just the chemicals in the food - though they may play in. It's more the better nutrition. Most of us don't suffer hunger anymore when growing up, or lacking vitamines, etc because all kind of food is constantly available.

Anyway, a forth grader ahving their menstruation is really young. I was convinced the average date for a girl to get her menstruation was 12 - give or take a year.

i started my period in fourth grade. i was 10. it's younger than average but it's not abnormal.

I was fat. That's why I got mine at 10. Well, that's how I figured it anyway.

that's interesting... I was 12... they're getting younger?.... If I could afford it I would eat much healthier, but I'm super picky, and almost went fucking bankrupt eating free range and organic...

Period icon. :D

Yeah, the chemicals we ingest are really bad for us in the long run and not just in terms of getting your period earlier etc. Although I got my period at 12 and so did my mom and her sister so it didn't really get much worse. Plus my cousin got hers at 16 and she ate so much crap. :/ I think it does contribute but it also depends on the person.

idk. i got mine when i was in 5th grade and i ate really, really healthy as a child. my dad always made homemade meals which were well-balanced, rarely ate out especially at fast food restaurants, i rarely drank pop, my mom never really bought junk food except for the occasional ice cream and little debbies, etc.

however, i do know that two friends of mine who eat incredibly unhealthy didn't get it until they were 16-17ish. actually, i think one of them didn't get hers until she was 18.

so who knows.

Oh, god. Yes, it is normal. It is highly normal for women to have early periods. This isn't some new 21st century epidemic, but a very common thing throughout all of femalekind. I admire your concern for harsh chemicals within children's (and anyone's) diet, but this overall shock of people that girls get their periods before 12 is appalling because it is so very common. Just because someone has an early period and starts developing faster than other girls does not mean they are overtaking processed foods or hormones, it just means that their bodies are made that way.

Chemicals in food alone cannot jump-start a period. I don't know how many times my gynecologic professor has told us this. Just as stress and an emotionally unstable environment cannot jump-start a period. All these things can be contributing factors to speeding up the process just as as these very things can be the contributing factors in preventing the process. Every female body reacts differently. A combination of a lot of things can be attributed to higher period frequency and no frequency at all, depending on the person. When I'm eating a lot of processed foods or feel too stressed out, I never get my period. When one of my best friends in particular stresses out or is going through a bad time, her period can come as frequently as twice a month and last for eight days. Anything can trigger menstruation into acting differently, in its onslaught and so on. I started menstruating when I was 9 not because of what I ate or any other influences, but simply because that is how my body work. My mother got hers at 10, my grandmother at 14 and my great grandmother at 9 just as I did. There are always going to be outliers and young periods and tween periods, these shifts and separations are all normal and have always been occurring. It's part of the great thing of having ovaries that want to go down a slip-n-slide when its not convenient for us, and realizing menstruation can be triggered by myriad things, but its ultimate investor is your body itself regardless of anything else.

/tl;dr medical explanation

IKR? I recently bought this lunch container with three compartments and I make sure every day to fill two of the compartments with at least four servings of fruits and vegetables and then I force myself to eat them. I also have started eating a lot of organic quinoa. I take my vitamins, too, and work out 5 times a week. I used to have to drink coffee every day to wake up but now I hop out of bed with no problem and don't even need it. It's amazing what happens when you cut out sugar and fuel your body with good things instead. You eat smaller portions, too, because it's more filling.

One of my friends got her period when she was 8, poor thing.

I'm pretty sure all the hormones in milk are making girls develop faster. That's why you see all these 12-year-olds looking all ~womanly~ and shit XD.

In my head I always imagine her wearing white. I swear she wears it all the time.

Your icon is mesmerizing. :O

that being said I love Ellen. And I know her wife is a recovered anorexic so I don't get why she would spread this kind of message...it can really be damaging. Eating junk food isn't being irresponsible. It's just food. Stop giving it moral values.

I agree with your post. Stop worrying so much and enjoy it instead. If you feel bad about eating certain things, or force yourself to eat stuff you don't like it's gonna come out the wrong way. Been there, done that. Same as you. So yeah, ITA.

I agree with your comment about listening to our bodies. I think Ellen's point is that she has stopped eating animal products for ethical reasons. That's what she means by being irresponsible. She isn't doing this for weight reasons, but having more energy is just a positive result.

you're one of the lucky ones bb [eating disorder excl, of course- glad you're recovering]... we can't all just eat whatever we want, even in small portions.. for some people it's like smoking... you can't NOT eat it if it's on your plate!!

And some food is bad... some people [don't know if it's true, tbqh] just announced that some fast foods, or foods really high fat, can become addictive.

if i listen to my body i will eat everything in sight... my head wants me to be in a constant state of snacking :(

I think she just meant she was making healthy choices.
There's nothing wrong with having any food in moderation, but a lot of people have issues with moderation and she was one of them.

Aww... *hugs* Have you tried baby food? I lived of it when I got my wisdom teeth removed.

I had filled peppers with rice for lunch. Really yummy. xD

protein shakes!!!!!

Plain congee?

I ate mashed yams for an entire week when I had oral surgery done. I fucking love that shit.

when i had my wisdom teeth out I couldn't eat solids and it was hell.

but you should make a tofu smoothie. It sounds gross, but if you get the silken kind and add banana, peanut butter & chocolate then its super yummy & super filling. I lived off of tofu smoothies for a week.

I KNOW YOU SAID SOUP'S NOT FILLING YOU UP. HOWEVER.

When I had mine taken out a few years ago, I lived on Campbell's Soup-at-Hands, primarily the Creamy Tomato soup and the Creamy Chicken. The chicken does have little pieces of chicken in it but I just didn't drink those. It was pretty filling.

That, and Starbucks hot chocolate no whipped cream. I lived on those and a cocktail of hydrocodone/advil/ibuprofen. And a heating pad on my pillow. And my Pookie. And a LOT of Vin Diesel action movies.

I believe it's a statistical fact [I heard it on TV so it must be true, y/y?] that healthy vegetarians are always healthier than healthy meat eaters.

i think its bc cows are injected with a lot of crap and even the meat cutting process like hamburger meat has a lot of crap in it thats NOT meat. lots of fat and cartilage. and since it can raise your cholesterol. even fish have toxins in them.

BUT i don't see how people can live without meat! i love a good burger. lol and a steak. and BACON. and ribs. and fried chicken. lol

anyways i went vegan for a month and holy crap was it different. you really do have more energy.

Rice is not a vegetable. Beans are not vegetables. She did not say she eats only veggies.

no meat is generally pretty bad for you. less so if you're eating chemical free, well raised meat but the vast, vast majority of the north american population isn't.

Vegetarian or vegan diet is not unhealthy if you take the time out to get all the nutrients you need.

I'm a clean eating vegan and I get all the nutrients I need. It's easy for me b/c I did my research and didn't just jump into something I didn't understand.

Eh, the term diet in general means bad things....if you restrict yourself in the extreme, you are doomed to fail because you give up everything you like. Someone who makes healthy eating a way of life can eat the occasional chocolate cake and it doesn't hurt because in general they are eating well so a little 'cheat' once in awhile isn't going to kill them.

She's saying "I'mmmm gonna GETCHA! I'mmm gonna GETCHA!"

Yup ! I think the key is to not deprive yourself of guilty pleasures, just have self control.

I went from a size 10 to a 4 under that mantra.

I worked at a vegan festival last summer and I had SO much energy. I was doing a lot of physical work, digging trenches for sound cables, moving chairs, building stuff and I was eating quinoa and nuts and lots of amazing stuff and I was just bouncing around!

i bet you barely poop, too. that's so awesome. =D