9:40 pm - 11/30/2009

Official: Twilight's Bella & Edward Are In An Abusive Relationship

If you've suspected that there's something unhealthy about the relationship between Bella and Edward in the phenomenally successful Twilight series, then it turns out that you're exactly right. In fact, there are fifteen examples of unhealthiness.

Livejournal user kar3ning was reminded of something after going to see New Moon recently:

According to the National Domestic Violence hotline, these are some signs that you may be in an emotionally or physically abusive relationship.

Does your partner:
* Look at you or act in ways that scare you?


* Control what you do, who you see or talk to or where you go?

"Stay away from the werewolves. I love you."

* Make all of the decisions?


* Act like the abuse is no big deal, it's your fault, or even deny doing it?
"If I wasn't so attracted to you, I wouldn't have to break up with you."

* Threaten to commit suicide?

"I just can't live without you. In fact, I'll run to Italy and try suicide by vampire if anything happens to you."

* Threaten to kill you?

On their first date.

These are some more signs of an abusive relationship.
Has your partner...
* Tried to isolate you from family or friends.

Bella doesn't have time for anyone else!

* Damaged property when angry (thrown objects, punched walls, kicked doors, etc.).

* Pushed, slapped, bitten, kicked or choked you.
Does tossing her through a glass table count?

* Abandoned you in a dangerous or unfamiliar place.

"We're breaking up. And I'm leaving you in the forest."

* Scared you by driving recklessly.

* Forced you to leave your home.

She had to run away with him to flee from the other vampires in the first movie, and she had to drop everything and run to Italy in the second.

* Prevented you from calling police or seeking medical attention.
Check. Even in the hospital, nothing is a big deal.

* Views women as objects and believes in rigid gender roles.
Well, they are Mormon... (I know, I know, cheap shot.)

* Accuses you of cheating or is often jealous of your outside relationships.
Check, wolf-boy.

Now I'm pissed. According to the NDVH, "If you answered ‘yes' to even one of these questions, you may be in an abusive relationship." This list is fifteen.

We'd be interested in hearing Stephenie Meyer's (Or even some Twihards') response to this, but somehow don't imagine that one is forthcoming.

What Do You See In Him Again? [Captain's Log]

Source: io9

dukefame 30th-Nov-2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
heartbeats_hurt 30th-Nov-2009 07:17 pm (UTC)
elisabet85 30th-Nov-2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
hilarious "news"?
treelines 30th-Nov-2009 08:30 pm (UTC)
ex_lovergir 30th-Nov-2009 09:22 pm (UTC)
Livejournal user kar3ning
Livejournal user kar3ning
Livejournal user kar3ning

lol I should've stopped reading there. There's no Twilight news these days, so people will post about anything.
claudieko 30th-Nov-2009 01:55 pm (UTC)
eveofrevolution 30th-Nov-2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
MTE. Wasn't this established a long ass time ago?
serenakaye6 30th-Nov-2009 07:57 pm (UTC)
yeah, I'm also quite emotionally constipated atm.
tin_o_biscuits 30th-Nov-2009 01:56 pm (UTC)
bottom_line 30th-Nov-2009 09:25 pm (UTC)
icon = love
appleologist 30th-Nov-2009 01:56 pm (UTC)
well duh.
mmmfashnik 30th-Nov-2009 01:56 pm (UTC)
derschatzi 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
finding_jay 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
Oh god I burst out laughing.
captainmarveljt 30th-Nov-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
strahovski 30th-Nov-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
minutesaway 30th-Nov-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
cascianca 30th-Nov-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
radical_ed57 30th-Nov-2009 02:01 pm (UTC)
kindafunnysad 30th-Nov-2009 02:01 pm (UTC)
omg LOL irl
skylark67678 30th-Nov-2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
hahahhaa I like this
riotcalifornia 30th-Nov-2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
khaldrogo 30th-Nov-2009 02:18 pm (UTC)
lmao can't stop loling

i was scrolling and scrolling and then bam, hysterical laughter.
glittersecrecy 30th-Nov-2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
:[ that scared me.
babybalooga19 30th-Nov-2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
OMG lol forever
lillyluna 30th-Nov-2009 02:41 pm (UTC)
papertoad 30th-Nov-2009 03:39 pm (UTC)
Actual LOLIRL and they're pretty rare...
sha_shannon 30th-Nov-2009 03:44 pm (UTC)
lol irl. at a hospital and shouldn't, but lol irl.
nene718 30th-Nov-2009 03:52 pm (UTC)
crazyyogurt 30th-Nov-2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
lmao omg
tom_ato 30th-Nov-2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
HAHA OMG I literally lol'd irl.
juanitatequila 30th-Nov-2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
opheliassister 30th-Nov-2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
that look from the "guy you alert the flight attendent about" collection.
ex_lovergir 30th-Nov-2009 09:25 pm (UTC)
lmao I love that commentary.
punkchica321 30th-Nov-2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
I love how his eyebrows become groomed once his eyes are huge.
sexi_squidward 30th-Nov-2009 05:40 pm (UTC)
ginandnews 30th-Nov-2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
Will always be funny.
evilgmbethy 30th-Nov-2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
lol this made me laugh so hard I spit
rockingmyfaith 30th-Nov-2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
yaoipimp 30th-Nov-2009 06:27 pm (UTC)
Knew it was coming, still LOL'd!
gringotts 30th-Nov-2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
LMAO ty for making me c hoke on my breakfast
modernelegance 30th-Nov-2009 01:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah and this sense of abuse and control only heightens in the monstrosity called the 4th book...*headdesk*
ace_nikkei 30th-Nov-2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
UGH. I love Lucian, almost as much as I love Michael Sheen.
tracycutie 30th-Nov-2009 08:34 pm (UTC)
i love michael sheen because he's so sexy as lucian:)
ashley51201 30th-Nov-2009 03:51 pm (UTC)
I just watched all the Underworld movies this weekend and I can't get enough of them.
beatrizm 30th-Nov-2009 04:52 pm (UTC)
aaaah the 4th movie is going to be EPIC!!!! the sex/fuck-you-unconscious and the c-section are going to be SO AMAIZNG! BEST COMEDY EVER PEOPLE! BEST COMEDY EVER
indy788 30th-Nov-2009 01:56 pm (UTC)
this is brand new information.
ben_superdetka 30th-Nov-2009 02:58 pm (UTC)
orbandsceptre 30th-Nov-2009 03:54 pm (UTC)
_beka 30th-Nov-2009 04:09 pm (UTC)

Never fails to make me laugh!
grammaire 30th-Nov-2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
rainwhore 30th-Nov-2009 05:25 pm (UTC)
hollis1975 NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
rain is wet

sky is blue

henry cavill is hot

the pope is catholic
radical_ed57 Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
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hollis1975 Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
bahahhaa i love these GIFS
rara_imura Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:01 pm (UTC)
juanitatequila Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
violentirony Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 10:10 pm (UTC)
My boys make every post better.
munkykiss Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
You're my favorite person to read on here. No lie.
beingabotch22 Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:01 pm (UTC)
fail, the pope is muslim
wring Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 02:48 pm (UTC)
you forgot the bear
kerishma Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 08:43 pm (UTC)
hear hear
ex_lovergir Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
Henry you say? Mmmmmmmmm.
bees_beads Re: NO SHIT SHERLOCK30th-Nov-2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
unff, Henry Cavill
claudieko 30th-Nov-2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
and btw I have 0 plans of EVER seeing New Moon but I think I'm going to see Eclipse in theaters just to hear people scream at the constant almost sex between these two assholes.
vaegue 30th-Nov-2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
and add to the $$ that this franchise is making? bb, please DON'T.
claudieko 1st-Dec-2009 03:00 am (UTC)
ik, ik, that's what makes me really think it through although I do want the experience of people reacting to it :'(
londoncrown 1st-Dec-2009 05:41 am (UTC)
pshhh bb can sneak in, point and laugh, steal some popcorn and get her ass outta thurr
leonardbriscoe 30th-Nov-2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
SO true. I shudder to think how many idiots think Edward is 'the perfect man' - HE'S A CREEPER, SIFS. oh..AND A FICTIONAL CHARACTER.
indy788 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
My mother says she relates to Bella. D: D: SHUDDER TO THAT.
mmmfashnik 30th-Nov-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
Does your dad sparkle?
magli 30th-Nov-2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
Lol dude, what the hell is your father like?
prettywitch 30th-Nov-2009 02:37 pm (UTC)
No offense but if that was me I would disown her.
enchantedkiss_x 30th-Nov-2009 04:48 pm (UTC)
My mother says the same thing!!! WTF

After New Moon, I turned to her and said "wasn't Bella just absolutely pathetic when Edward left her" and my mom goes "actually, it reminds me of myself after some of my worst breakups....I totally relate!" o___0

subtopic 30th-Nov-2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
my 10-year-old cousin says that too. :%Pr
cascianca 30th-Nov-2009 02:02 pm (UTC)
Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks he's not perfect. Also, why would you want a guy that is so absolutely perfect in every way? I would find that BORING and PREDICTABLE in a relationship.
cjcord 30th-Nov-2009 02:02 pm (UTC)
I was just about to say I find it horrific and depressing how many young girls are going to go into young adult life LOOKING for this "ideal". I have a not quite two year old and I thank god this crap will be over by the time she's old enough to witness it....I hope.
courtneyfrances 30th-Nov-2009 02:24 pm (UTC)
Accurate SIF reference is accurate.

(Plus, I imagined Jerry Orbach saying it. Party. Bonus.)
vaguelyalive 30th-Nov-2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
I hate when people say Bella is passionate (because she reminds people of the overwhelming/obsessive nature of teen love or whatever).

vaguelyalive 30th-Nov-2009 02:50 pm (UTC)

He acts weirdly like her father sometimes. EUGH.
hp_speculation To drive your point home30th-Nov-2009 03:19 pm (UTC)
punkchica321 30th-Nov-2009 05:15 pm (UTC)
whimsical_tale 30th-Nov-2009 05:48 pm (UTC)
I don't know, I get more creeped out by Bella. Her obsession with Edy is a bit psychotic.
guitarstrings 1st-Dec-2009 01:14 am (UTC)
I shudder to think how many idiots think Edward is 'the perfect man'

THIS. I weep for the future because all of these stupid teenage girls are going to go out looking for an Edward and end up with an abusive asshole.
vegasonacid24_7 30th-Nov-2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
I'm shocked.
pirate_smiles 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
The fans will just be like, "OH MY GAWD IT'S JUST A BOOK!"

But seriously, it's all there and not to be emulated.
fraubluecher 30th-Nov-2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
I agree with the fans here, even though they have a crappy taste in books.

Seriously, it's just a book and he wants to kill her, she is scared of him etc because he is a VAMPIRE. Just thought I'd mention that.
extremisttt 30th-Nov-2009 05:43 pm (UTC)
MTE! All this shit doesn't apply quite as smoothly as we'd like BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING VAMPIRE and that certainly complicates shit to not end.

while some things are, yeah, a little too rough from his end
he can't help half of them at least

aveanomis 30th-Nov-2009 07:55 pm (UTC)
I'd agree, were it not for the fact that millions of young girls are reading it, who think that his behaviour is SOOOOOOOOO romantic, regardless of the fact that he's a vampire, which means that some of it might transfer into their real lives, because they "learn" from the interactions in the books.
angi_is_altered 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
OMG! How many movies and books are there were the relationship is dysfunctional? Why focus on this dumb teenage one?! How about True Blood? That shit is FUCKED UP!
invisiblemonkey 30th-Nov-2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
But True Blood doesn't pretend to be a fluffy epic love-story? Fucked-up stories are good stories, saying it's romantic that your boyfriend/girlfriend will kill themselves for you is just twisted. Not to mention the whole "breaking in and staring at you while you sleep" and "preventing you from seeing your friends"-thing, that's creepy-ass stalker behaviour and it shouldn't be celebrated in teenage 'literature'.
fraubluecher 30th-Nov-2009 04:03 pm (UTC)
I'm sure nobody ever thought Romeo and Juliet is romantic.
brandons_lover 30th-Nov-2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
Edward does not prevent her from seeing her friends, she just never made any. But yeah, Edward is a complete stalker, and Bella only likes it because he is hot. If he wasnt hot, she'd be completely creeped out.
magli 30th-Nov-2009 02:06 pm (UTC)
To me TB is fucked up in the same way Buffy was fucked up. Fun, but not something young girls look for in their own lives.
jkpolk 30th-Nov-2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
I think it's basically about the popularity and how many young girls and mature women publicly declare how perfect Edward is and how they want one of their own. No use railing against a dysfunctional example if there's nobody idealizing it. It's the magnitude of the adoration that makes it truly disturbing. If the fans in general saw the dysfunction and didn't make statements about longing for it in real life, nobody would give two shits about exposing it.
xitsnikkiii 30th-Nov-2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
So because dysfunctional relationships can be found elsewhere that makes it okay?

The focus is on this one because it's so popular, especially for teens, many of whom don't have a lot of experience in relationships and knowing what's healthy and what's not. They're watching these movies and reading these books thinking how Edward and Bella are ~so romantic, not recognizing that it's abuse.
modern_toilet 30th-Nov-2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
because little kids like 10 years old are going around with twilight shirts on.
drunkenchipmunk 30th-Nov-2009 03:04 pm (UTC)
True Blood doesn't attempt to pretend that its male vampire protagonist(s) are perfect and constantly points out their flaws, usually via the actions of the (heavily established) non-submissive female human protagonist.

misao7 30th-Nov-2009 03:47 pm (UTC)
Because tweens are reading Twilight and aspiring to its ~heights. I'm pretty sure every True Blood viewer is aware that it's not to be taken seriously.
briecheesie 30th-Nov-2009 07:48 pm (UTC)
i would argue that the that fact that it is geared toward teenagers is the reason smeyer can get away with making this dysfunctional relationship seem "perfect". it's a shallow book for a young audience so there's always a "good" excuse for every creepy as thing edward does, because it is apparently for bella's well-being in the long run. and then the danger is in the 40 year old idiots who have unfulfilling marriages and so fall prey to that. i actually worry less about the young readers than i do about the 23+ people. when i see young twilight fans, i also see that, while they fawn over him, they're also more realistic about it.

it's the twimoms who wear the shirts that say, in essence, "edward can beat the shit out of me" (i don't remember exactly what it said, but it was like "edward can bang my head into the headboard, grip me until i bruise, etc etc") and tell their faithful husbands when they do nice things for them, "thank you for being 1/8th the man edward is."
radical_ed57 30th-Nov-2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, ok.
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