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12:59 pm - 09/29/2009

Scorsese, Allen, Aronofsky&others join "FREE POLANSKI" petition



Seemingly most of ONTD community showed lots of bad emotions towards defenders of the acussed Roman Polanski and it seems some of you will have to quit Hollywood and put all those people on your hit list

Woody Allen
Wes Anderson
Darren Aronofsky
Jonatham Demme
Stephen Frears
David Lynch
Martin Scorsese


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ierarhie hmm, odd...29th-Sep-2009 04:01 pm (UTC)
Some Articles from BBC + Some interesting quotes...

The Arrest
"How hard would it be to find someone shooting a major film in a European country? He travels with transparency across Europe. It makes no sense."

Background
"But Polanski's arrest and detention in Switzerland - which he considered a friendly country with a home there - suggests a case which began 32 years ago is by no means over."

IDK, something isn't exactly right here in my opinion. It's like, there's something missing.
I'll just keep observing from the sidelines is what I say.
agiel Re: hmm, odd...29th-Sep-2009 04:11 pm (UTC)
Does it really matter how they finally managed to arrest him? Even if it was part of some complicated political maneuvering, the fact of the matter is that Polanski needed to be arrested. He raped a girl, admitted to it, was convicted, and then fled his sentence.
He needs to serve his sentence.
ierarhie Re: hmm, odd...29th-Sep-2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
i agree, he should serve his sentence.
i'm only trying to figure out the reasons why people are signing the petition is all. :)
ierarhie Re: hmm, odd...29th-Sep-2009 06:29 pm (UTC)
so basically, i'm not trying to justify his crime. it's obvious he did it and he's guilty. i just am trying to figure out the outrage--it's obvious that these people signing don't really support the crime itself.
castevet 29th-Sep-2009 04:01 pm (UTC)
Isabelle Huppert, Isabelle Adjani, Asia Argento, Louis Garrel... these are like my favourite famous hotties. :(
obscurative 29th-Sep-2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
lol ia with the louis garrel thing

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tbh, i'm thinking maybe they're not so keen on how he was arrested, not that they actually support what he did. we'll see, maybe they'll say something about it.
redsprings 29th-Sep-2009 04:01 pm (UTC)
I am deeply saddened that a good chunk of my all-time favorite directors are on that list...

WTF Hollywood.
faithnomore 29th-Sep-2009 04:03 pm (UTC)
he fled justice for 30 years, he should have just served the time and been done with it then. he'd have been out, continued making movies, life would have went on. what's fucked is that he ran and has still been celebrated while running, and now everyone is saying oh no poor roman he shouldn't have to go to jail since it's been so many years. but the thing is, he should. it doesn't matter who he is, or what he's done, he has some time to serve, and now additional time because he ran from the law, and no matter who you are, that's a crime. it's not about the rape anymore, it's about his cowardice.
okthx 29th-Sep-2009 05:34 pm (UTC)
Seriously, I wonder how fucking long this would've lasted if he had just sucked it up and dealt with it. What an idiot. I bet he would've gotten 10 years, at most, and now he'd be 20 years out instead of going IN.
nobodynomore 29th-Sep-2009 05:59 pm (UTC)
I read somewhere it was like, 48-52 DAYS. But I don't know where, so i don't have source material for you ://
para1 29th-Sep-2009 04:03 pm (UTC)
It's been a while since I said this last and some Americans are on this list but:

These people make me ashamed to be European.
a_grumble_cakee 29th-Sep-2009 04:16 pm (UTC)
it seems more like a conflict between the art world/showbiz vs. the rest of the world, not American vs. European
winniechili 29th-Sep-2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
No, quite a few French and Polish politicians have said he should be freed.
jewcifer 29th-Sep-2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
Terry Gilliam? Really?

I'm going to be taking a LOT of my DVD's to the used bookstore today.
opusdeihohoho 29th-Sep-2009 04:07 pm (UTC)
i'm gonna use them as cup coasters and make sure nobody else watches them
jewcifer 29th-Sep-2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
I'd do that, but that would mean they're still in my house, polluting my coffee.

IDK, this especially pisses me off as 1) a creative person and 2) a parent. I figured I'll sell em off at Half-Price to unsuspecting hipsters and take my little boy to the aquarium.
talk_play_love 29th-Sep-2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
totally ot but I'm just in this thread to appreciate your icon <3
anakisa 29th-Sep-2009 04:49 pm (UTC)
terry gilliam was already on my "this dude is a gross perv" list for tideland - when he made that 11 year old girl kiss a grown ass man.
enid_keaner 29th-Sep-2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
Seriously?
fading_october 29th-Sep-2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
I've got mixed feelings on this. The girl dropped the charges/forgave him right? Should it even fucking matter?

If the girl was still in pain from it all, I'd say yeah go to fucking jail.
but it's been so long and the girl is okay with it. so just stfu
obscurative 29th-Sep-2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
hmmm, my issue is that the victim says this media attention is harming her and her family more than helping her as it doesn't let her live her life peacefully.
our_innocence 29th-Sep-2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but one can argue the principle of the matter; it's no longer about her, but about about the 'special' rules for celebrities/allowing someone to escape justice and get away with it. (Not giving my opinion on that one way or another, just saying.)


Also he ran for 30 years. That alone is enough to earn a hefty sentence.
fading_october 29th-Sep-2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
That is a good point.

I just want to know why it took so long for them to get him.
gorgeousdoll 29th-Sep-2009 04:13 pm (UTC)
So just stfu? WOW.

Um, it doesn't matter if that woman has forgiven him. Should we "let it go" every time a victim or their family has ~forgiven~ the person that caused them such pain? That's not how the law works! He never served his time, and by allowing him to do what he wants sends a myriad of nasty messages to society. It perpetuates the idea that certain people are above the law, that rape isn't a big deal, that if this man can do what he wants, then other people are entitled to break the law as well and potentially destroy someone else's life.
winniechili 29th-Sep-2009 04:14 pm (UTC)
No, she didn't drop the charges. They're not her charges to drop. It's Polanski vs. the state. He's a fugitive.

She already got money from him after a civil suit settlement.
whimsical_tale 29th-Sep-2009 04:23 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter if she forgave him now. The point is that HE DRUGGED AND RAPED A CHILD. Not too mention, he's actually one sick fucker. He had all this child pornography in his house. I'm sorry but just because she forgave him does not make it ok. He's a pedophile and needs to go to jail.
sofakingpretty 29th-Sep-2009 04:54 pm (UTC)
if that were logical in any way, then all rape victims should just be told to wait it out till they feel better and we should only punish people if they do it a second time. good thinking.
firecracked 29th-Sep-2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
For the millionth time, she cannot drop the charges since she's not the one pressing charges. It's a criminal case - the state is pressing charges.

As for the rest, I direct you to this comment
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39618660.html?thread=5971907428#t5971907428
fading_october 29th-Sep-2009 05:38 pm (UTC)
woooah kay. Foot put in mouth. Just goes to show how little I know about law and order and all that shit.
idreaminargyle I think...29th-Sep-2009 04:07 pm (UTC)
A man should drug him and rape him against his will to see how he likes it.
idreaminargyle Re: I think...29th-Sep-2009 04:07 pm (UTC)
*and by that I mean drug up/rape Roman
lay_of_luthien ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:07 pm (UTC)



Any other celebs supporting the arrest?
michizzled Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:10 pm (UTC)
scott grimes (who was on ER) rt'ed what greg said and agreed.
must_go_faster Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:18 pm (UTC)
4 for you, hot ginger
lay_of_luthien Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:48 pm (UTC)
I like that ginger so yay.
shonen_key Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:18 pm (UTC)
That was posted twice in this thread :D I love him too.
tx5mym5 Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:30 pm (UTC)
Director Kevin Smith

http://twitter.com/ThatKevinSmith/status/4472158172
shadowpiranha Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 04:42 pm (UTC)
Oh thank the Lord.
davejohn Re: ILU GREG GRUNBERG29th-Sep-2009 09:20 pm (UTC)
LOL @ the Bin Laden reference A+
mediapass 29th-Sep-2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
I want to see this appear on Law & Order: SVU. Benson and Stabler’s fine asses would get down to the bottom of this fuckery.
fading_october 29th-Sep-2009 04:10 pm (UTC)
THIS
davejohn 29th-Sep-2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
Let's hope they don't sign this list...
gorgeousdoll 29th-Sep-2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
OK I'm not done yet:

Half these people are morons. I don't really care about being politically correct and open-minded or waiting to hear more about the case - NO. We have all the facts we need: He ADMITTED TO drugging a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL, giving her champagne, and then forcing himself on her. The whole time he did so, she kept saying "no" and he did what he wanted anyway. Then, instead of being a man and facing his sentence, he ran. HE RAN. Like a weak, selfish bastard. I honestly believe that part of the reason this girl grew up to say, "I want to move on" is because she's aware that there are individuals who HATE her, like she's the one that did something totally morally repugnant. So anyone who really supports this guy is in need of a serious reality check.

I think the other half of this ~fabulous~ list is doing this for attention, or to associate their names with Roman's (aka get some free publicity), or simply because they're operating on the notion of "If I ever fuck up, I'd want someone to defend ME!" I've seen that kind of thinking happen over and over again in life, and I would not be surprised if this were the case for at least a few people. I think a handful of others like the idea of sticking it to the law, to conservative (and I don't mean Republican) views in which explicit, forceful sexual acts deserve negative reactions.

Basically, I am not impressed by the fact that Woody Allen wants this man to never serve his time. Didn't Woody sleep with his step-daughter when she was an older teenager? Like 18 or 19? I'm sure Woody's all about "fucking young girls!" as Roman so eloquently once said.
dr_crgirl 29th-Sep-2009 04:30 pm (UTC)
he tried to get the plea bargain which meant he admitted to having sex with a minor (stat rape) not pure rape (there is a difference, definition wise). Judge didn't have to accept it though. The problem that I have with some of his defenders is they are saying he had sex with a minor but he probably wanted to get off lightly instead of going through a whole trial.
dolcetta 29th-Sep-2009 05:00 pm (UTC)
hey bb i just want to tell u ilu
firecracked 29th-Sep-2009 05:11 pm (UTC)
I appreciate your outrage throughout this post.
nerwende 29th-Sep-2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
or simply because they're operating on the notion of "If I ever fuck up, I'd want someone to defend ME!"

This. I was reading the stuff at smokinggun and some studio guy testifying on Polanski's character or whatever, basically said "I'm sure it could have happened to any one of us". REALLY? I personally wouldn't want to be friends with people who just "happen" to drug and rape young girls.
prettypinkdork 1st-Oct-2009 08:50 pm (UTC)
No, wait, no. 'I'm sure it could have happened to any one of us'? In other words; "I'm sure drugging and raping a child could have happened to any of us'? Like raping someone is something that happens to the rapist? Wow. That reminds me of elementary school when kids would say 'you got me in trouble' when you told the teacher they hit you. :\
i8gilbertgrape 30th-Sep-2009 12:00 am (UTC)
Woody Allen had an affair with his ex-girlfriend's (Mia Farrow) adopted daughter. He married her, and they've been together ever since.
darlas_mom 30th-Sep-2009 07:35 am (UTC)
Didn't Woody sleep with his step-daughter when she was an older teenager? Like 18 or 19? I'm sure Woody's all about "fucking young girls!" as Roman so eloquently once said.

Sort of. He and Mia Farrow were never married, so technically he wasn't her stepfather. (You could easily argue "surrogate father," however. He'd been with Mia Farrow since Soon-Yi was ten and is the father of three of Soon-Yi's siblings.) I don't know when they got together, but she was twenty-two when her mother found out about the relationship. Then Farrow broke up with him and took him to court for custody of their three kids, and at one point, it was floated around during the custody battle that Woody Allen had molested he and Farrow's seven-year-old daughter, Dylan, though that was never proven.
roonzil 29th-Sep-2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
Disgusting. Also, LOUIS GARREL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THAT LIST? :(
savannah_rose24 29th-Sep-2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
OP if you are going to use a quote by the victim, you should include her entire quote. Not just pieces of it. And there is more than just that one quote.

"People don't understand that the judge went back on his word. They don't know how unfairly we were all treated by the press. Talk about feeling violated! The media made that year a living hell and I've been trying to put it behind me ever since."


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/29/polanski.victim.profile/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
waffle_party 29th-Sep-2009 04:12 pm (UTC)
im not a rape defender but the victim's opinion, the judge's obvious bias, and the time frame make me lean towards letting polanski go

flamers, say what you want. my best friend in high school was date raped by an older man, but at the end of the trial (he was found guilty) she actually regrets going through with everything. she told me the day he was sentenced, "i dont want him in jail, i just want his reputation tarnished so he wont rape again."
waffle_party 29th-Sep-2009 04:13 pm (UTC)
i know i'm going to get killed for saying that though =/ im sorry, its just my opinion
waffle_party 29th-Sep-2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
shes just felt extremely guilty since. like, serious emotional issues because she feels its HER fault hes in jail. shes actually written him letters apologizing. i guess after seeing her go through all that its altered my feelings in cases like that. plus the victim in polanski's case is being hounded by the press, causing her serious emotional damage and completely destroying her privacy. shes stated herself that she'd rather have everything dropped and move on. i dunno, its not a clean-cut as i think many people assume.
para1 29th-Sep-2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
But she couldn't get without the other. You don't get any rapist off the street by staying silent.

And if she had tried to make that claim without going to the police he could have sued her for defamation. And would have won.

Rock. Meet even harder place.
dr_crgirl 29th-Sep-2009 04:34 pm (UTC)
The huge problem is that they probably gave him the plea bargain to spare the victim a trial, but he ran away from that.

And I'm sorry about your friend, but she is one opinion, of course she wants his reputation tarnished but he should go to jail. There are so many victims who dont testify or don't report rape because of how they feel but that shouldn't be a reason to let them go. He should pay for his crimes, should realize that just because he is sorry doesn't mean he shouldn't go to jail.
okthx 29th-Sep-2009 05:37 pm (UTC)
I totally understand.

I went through something and never actually told the police. By the time I was ready to talk about it, I told the people who mattered (friends, boyfriends, my parents, a couple teachers) and I let that be the end of it. The kid ended up moving out of state after he was released from jail (for something else) because people kept bringing it up to him. And I'm fine with that. I didn't need to put him in jail, I just fucked him up mentally and basically drove him out of town. :/

And fuck the flamers, SERIOUSLY.
de_wood 29th-Sep-2009 06:27 pm (UTC)
You've been defending rape in this and other posts. You're defending rape against prosecution in your comment.
miss_gulch 29th-Sep-2009 04:13 pm (UTC)
All of these people should be ashamed of themselves.
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