11:51 am - 10/21/2008

Interview with Vincent Kartheiser from Mad Men

For the love of Pete
Sun, October 19, 2008

Pete Campbell can be a jerk. But while watching last week's episode of Mad Men, we actually felt sorry for him.

There was Pete, played by Vincent Kartheiser, anxious to have at least a little fun in the sun during an advertising business trip to California. Pete's boss Don Draper, played by Jon Hamm, nixed that idea with a curt, "You want to be on vacation, Pete? Because I can make that happen."

Then before you know it, dour Don takes off with some 21-year-old hot chick in a convertible, leaving Pete to make excuses to would-be clients.

In many ways, Pete -- with his rich-kid demeanour and blind ambition -- is the villain in the Emmy Award-winning Mad Men, which is set in the early 1960s and airs Sundays on A and AMC. But Kartheiser doesn't see Pete that way, and certainly, Pete wouldn't see himself that way.
"Pete is an annoying guy, but you feel sorry for him in the way you feel sorry for Steve Carell in The Office," Kartheiser said.

"Pete's life made him who he is and I think he wonders why people aren't more sympathetic. 'Why doesn't everyone like me? Can't they see what I've been through to get here? Why can't they just give me what I deserve?' "

Kartheiser, 29, looks younger when dressed in everyday 2008 clothes. The snappy suits Pete wears in Mad Men make him look older, and while it's a cliche to say people grew up faster 45 years ago than they do now, Kartheiser cautioned the clothes don't make the man.

"I actually have been through a lot more in my life than Pete has," said Kartheiser, a native of Minnesota who previously was known for his role as Connor in the TV series Angel.

"I think Pete is less of a man than me. The difference in the visual is that Pete had a finishing-school upbringing. I'm an actor, so part of my job is looking like a bum. So I think manners and age are being confused here.

"But these days we constantly hear about how kids are growing up so fast. We've always had weird ideas about that. I personally think people always are the same. To say that (people in the early 1960s) came from a different era, therefore they were a whole different breed of human, it just doesn't work. I think they were pretending more. There was a lot of posturing."

Posturing is a big part of Pete's repertoire, and it probably will continue to be. But you know, Don is a big phony himself, so Pete hardly is alone.

"Pete is a confused young man who wants to excel, wants to be worthy, wants to be valued," Kartheiser said. "He has cutting-edge ideas and he's at the forefront of change. And I think he feels others don't respond well to that.

"That said, he talks more than he probably should, and he loves the taste of his shoe."

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_xxtom 21st-Oct-2008 07:01 pm (UTC)
he has an annoying face
shanniesaysyo 21st-Oct-2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
i got SO MAD when he threw the food out. but yeah his wife was totally out of line.

i love to hate pete, but mostly i just love him. and i want him and peggy to be together again, he seems like himself with her. with his wife they both seem like kids playing house.
superhetoric 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
i think peggy deserves better though. like that scene from the first season where she was dancing and having fun and he was like "i don't like you like this" as in "i don't like you when you're happy".
shanniesaysyo 21st-Oct-2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
i feel like he's changed a lot towards her from back then honestly. its sort of cute how he hangs around after meetings to like gossip with her and stuff. little things like that make me feel like he's maturing but maybe i'm wrong.

i agree though. i HATED him last season, sooooo much. this season he just feels... different or something. and last night when he came and congratulated her on the office was really... i dunno heart felt.

this is coming from a girl who used to go crazy over guys only if they were completely assholes though, so i'm not the best judgement :D
misscritic 21st-Oct-2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
Oh I hated that line. It made me so sad. He likes it when she is miserable, I think.
yrnewfrndkaity 21st-Oct-2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
yeah, i'm torn about them. ever since they bonded over the creepy hunting story, i know they have a genuine connection.

but i want so much more for peggy!
damonhyper 21st-Oct-2008 07:20 pm (UTC)
Since I never watched the show until recently and my memory is fuzzy.

What did she say to prompt the chicken toss?
misscritic 21st-Oct-2008 07:24 pm (UTC)
I AGREE with this comment 100%. I love analyzing their relationship and trying to guess how it will all end. Because I KNOW he's not going to stay with his wife.
la_sikka 21st-Oct-2008 07:39 pm (UTC)
ugh when him and peggy fucked on his office couch, it was SO HOT and i dont know why.
soleil_luna 21st-Oct-2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
i love pete. i felt bad for his wife last night, idk.

and yes yes yes to pete and peggy. but i feel like peggy will never be with him again. she seems to have moved on. i can't wait until he finds out she had his baby!!
hearts_frozen 21st-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
bees_beads 21st-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
bloomzy 21st-Oct-2008 07:07 pm (UTC)
gloweeyes 21st-Oct-2008 07:16 pm (UTC)
blue_larkspur 21st-Oct-2008 07:32 pm (UTC)
flowerings 21st-Oct-2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
He was hotter on Angel.
tastefordanger 21st-Oct-2008 09:22 pm (UTC)
Preach the truth bb, preach.
xrockstarbeauty 21st-Oct-2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
I was going to say the exact same thing.
loitered 22nd-Oct-2008 06:00 am (UTC)
IKR! I love him as Connor. I hate his hair in Mad Men.
superhetoric 21st-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
his character is a little shit, but has more depth than all but one of the female characters on that show. pete campbell's wife is absolutely unbearable.
kateahol 21st-Oct-2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
seriously, where did they find that actress? the way she over enunciates all of her words drives me nuts! just because they had those affected accents in films back then doesn't mean people actually spoke like that irl.
superhetoric 21st-Oct-2008 07:12 pm (UTC)
yeah her voice is grating, and her annoying character personality doesn't help much either. i hate scenes with her in them.
shanniesaysyo 21st-Oct-2008 07:10 pm (UTC)
oh? i think peggy and joan are two characters they really have developed. betty isn't as developed as i'd like but this season is really getting there i think.
liquiddatura 21st-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
Oh... that poor roast chicken... I would've given him a good home.
arisma 21st-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
I love that guy but hate that show.
superhetoric 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
i really don't like the show but for some reason i keep watching it. it's so weird.
arisma 21st-Oct-2008 07:12 pm (UTC)
Does it grow on you? Cause I watched something like half an episode and wanted to off myself.
ponyboy 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
I had suuuuuuuuuch a crush on him in "Crime + Punishment in Suburbia". <3
peopleareshapes 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
I disagree with him that Pete is like the Michael Scott of the show. He's more like Dwight. I can just imagine Don having a talking head about him.

"Pete Campbell is very, very real."
teddyism 21st-Oct-2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
oh man, i would love to see a Mad Men episode in the Office style.

Joan: "I wonder what people like about me... Probably my jugs."

Are you listening, Emmys 2009? This would be comedic gold.
bees_beads 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
Wait, Mad Men has Saffron AND Connor in it? I really need to start watching!
sweetm05 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
So many times I find myself hating Pete and loving him at the same time.
Like he's such an ass for 40 minutes of an episode but then the scene where's he was talking to the dog and then decides he's going to bring one in made me love him.
azuree 21st-Oct-2008 11:52 pm (UTC)
ia. I have mixed feelings for Pete, but I definitely think that's how you're supposed to feel about him. And all of the other lead characters too, come to think of it. With Pete, people can identify with him in a way, because we've all had that feeling of, "Why can't I be smooth and cool like these other people?" Or at least I have, haha.
sleevesofsatin 21st-Oct-2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
I lost all respect for him when he badmouthed Joss Whedon in an interview.
superhetoric 21st-Oct-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
ooh what did he say?
sleevesofsatin 21st-Oct-2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
It was an interview on Giant. He said:

"There was a real sense on Angel that people were just doing a job. The grips, the DP, even the directors would kind of just show up, do their job and go home."


"I was never a fan of Buffy, I’ll say it straight out. I was never a fan of Angel. I always found it hard to say Joss’ words."
bizarrre 21st-Oct-2008 07:07 pm (UTC)
yeah, that was out of line, im not a big fan of what joss anymore but there was no reason to say what he said.
hotforbabyleg 21st-Oct-2008 08:16 pm (UTC)
dude, that makes me like him more.
tamburlaine 22nd-Oct-2008 05:09 am (UTC)
Joss Whedon needs to be taken down a peg or two, and I'm willing to lend an ear to anyone who wants to do the job.
mardiness 22nd-Oct-2008 09:52 am (UTC)
I agree. He totally fucking ruined any chance of me watching Mad Men.
cansuralama 21st-Oct-2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
somebodysbaby21 21st-Oct-2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
i literally LOL'd when he said that.
landocalrissian 21st-Oct-2008 07:18 pm (UTC)
je_ne_sais_twat 21st-Oct-2008 07:21 pm (UTC)
irl lol. my fave is when he said "i'd rather not have one hear listening to this DONNYBROOK! can't remember what ep though lol but i think it was the valentines one
misscritic 21st-Oct-2008 07:33 pm (UTC)
LOL I have been quoting that line since it came out.
carminaburana 21st-Oct-2008 07:43 pm (UTC)
screw_jack 21st-Oct-2008 08:24 pm (UTC)
Also: Chip 'n dip. We got two!!
bizarrre 21st-Oct-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
I like him, hes cute and a good actor.
kateahol 21st-Oct-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
i couldn't believe when he threw that tasty looking chicken out the window! hopefully it landed into some hungry person's mouth where it belongs.
lola1482 21st-Oct-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
lola1482 21st-Oct-2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
ty :)
I love your icon-that episode was hilarious!
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