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Yale scoffs at latest "Gossip Girl" ep

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Yale students, admissions dean disappointed in "Gossip Girl"

Last night's episode of "Gossip Girl", set at Yale but filmed at Columbia University, was chock full of myths and errors about the Ivy League school, especially with regards to the admissions process, according to the Yale Daily News. For instance, Yale's real dean of admissions doesn't personally interview students and, he says, "I certainly do not hold or attend private dinners for candidates." "It didn’t bring out the Yale that we all know and love, but instead just used stereotypes about Yale," said another student. "And all the characters were just focusing on getting in (to Yale) ... It was kind of a failure."

That's kinda of harsh. Yale could have just said "I really hate that stupid headband!" and left it at that.

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‘Gossip Girl’ relies on Univ. stereotypes

When Gossip Girl protagonist Serena van der Woodsen declared on Monday night that she wanted to take Yale’s “Great Hoaxes in Archaeology” lecture, 13 students watching the show in the Saybrook TV room erupted in applause.

“That was the best class ever!” one girl yelled. “I took it last semester.”

A passing reference to the Blue Book, however, may have been one of the few similarities between Yale College and the glossy, high-drama world of backstabbing socialites at Manhattan prep schools. Compared to the somewhat more realistic attempts made by the Gilmore Girls crew — complete with the Whiffenpoofs singing on Parent’s Weekend, for example — Gossip Girl’s rendition was riddled with myths, especially with regards to college admissions.

Yalies crowded into residential-college common areas and TV rooms around campus yesterday to watch the latest episode, titled “New Haven Can Wait,” of the hit one-hour CW drama. The episode centered around the characters’ fall pre-frosh weekend on Yale’s campus — or at least, under an ivy-strewn archway resembling Yale. Although the plot of Monday night’s episode alluded to Skull and Bones and the Harvard-Yale football game, many students said they were disappointed with the misleading references to Yale. Instead of bringing the filming cast and crew to New Haven, Gossip Girl producers chose to film the episode next door to their original set in Manhattan, at Columbia University.

Yale Licensing Manager Denise Castellano said the University never received any inquiries from the producers of Gossip Girl about filming on Yale’s campus. If they had, University officials would have asked for a copy of the script before they approved any requests to use the campus for filming purposes, Castellano explained.

Students interviewed said last night’s installment of Gossip Girl was especially erroneous in its portrayal of the Yale admissions process.

In the episode, three of the main characters met privately with the Yale dean of admissions, but the real admissions dean, Jeff Brenzel ’75, said such meetings could never have occurred beyond the realm of the television series.

Brenzel said he does not counsel students or conduct evaluative interviews, although his role, like that of any admissions officer, leads to conversations with candidates regarding Yale or the application process.

“I don’t do any interviews of applicants or potential applicants, so I’m not in the position of advising anyone,” he said over the phone Monday night.

While admissions officers are expected to answer students’ questions, he said the office does not arrange for any private counseling sessions between admissions officers and students.

He also said the admissions office gives no preference to any school groups over others.

But last night, the show’s rivals Blair Waldorf, played by actress Leighton Meester, and Serena, played by actress Blake Lively — students at an elite private school ­­— backstabbed and bribed their way to get an invitation for a dinner party hosted by the dean of admissions. Sporting designer suits and revealing necklines, the wealthy seniors schmoozed with administrators and professors throughout the evening.

“I certainly do not hold or attend private dinners for candidates,” Brenzel wrote in a follow-up e-mail Monday night.

In the spirit of Gossip Girl mania, Jonathan Edwards freshman counselor Katie Zimmerman ’09 said she and three other freshman counselors threw a Gossip Girl-watching party in their suite for all the freshmen in their college. Zimmerman said she has been an avid watcher of the show since it began in the fall of 2007, but this week’s episode fell short of what she had anticipated. After the initial wave of freshmen left halfway during the episode, Zimmerman said the remaining five students in her suite did not seem to notice the differences between Yale and the Gossip Girl version of the University during the rest of the show. But after three years as an Eli, she said it was hard to ignore the discrepancies between fact and fiction.

“It didn’t bring out the Yale that we all know and love, but instead just used stereotypes about Yale,” Zimmerman said. “And all the characters were just focusing on getting in [to Yale].”

On the whole, she concluded: “It was kind of a failure.”

Zimmerman said she was surprised by the numerous disparities between the fictitious and the real-world Yale.

In reality, the Dean of Admissions does not send out exclusive invitations to ritzy early-admissions soirees. Skull and Bones does not tap pre-frosh. And under no circumstances do high school students approach Yale upperclassmen with romantic propositions.

But perhaps it’s still up for debate whether, as Serena put it, “Yale is for overachieving bookworms and preppies.” SOURCE
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[info]hormoaning 14th-Oct-2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
LOL
[info]toystory 14th-Oct-2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
aww your icon!!!
[info]upisdown_x 14th-Oct-2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
Oh please, what TV program isn't "riddled with myths" these days.
[info]krissynyc 14th-Oct-2008 10:23 pm (UTC)
mte
[info]gogetemcowboy 15th-Oct-2008 12:51 am (UTC)
haha your icon!!
PIRATE DEAN. ARGGG
[info]heycunthead 15th-Oct-2008 01:07 am (UTC)
ikr it's gossip girl, what were they expecting?
[info]uhohlisa 15th-Oct-2008 02:11 am (UTC)
these days?
[info]teasailor 14th-Oct-2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
Who cares, Yale? It's not like your college will become "unpopular." Girls that are watching Gossip Girl probably won't be going to Yale anyways (yes I know that's a stereotype).
[info]harrypworshiper 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
hahahahaha so true
[info]charizmatic 14th-Oct-2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
lolzzzz
[info]tesla_sativa 14th-Oct-2008 10:20 pm (UTC)
I watch GG &I go to community college ::raises the roof::
[info]charizmatic 14th-Oct-2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
i got into yale and i've watched 5 eps.
[info]wtf_garfunkle 14th-Oct-2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
lol true

every single day these two girls who eat lunch with me show up everyday and scream "OMG DID YOU WATCH *insert very mediocre cliche show* LAST NIGHT! IT WAS SOO JUICY." "OMG I KNOW I SCREAMED."
[info]para1 14th-Oct-2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
The word juicy gives me bad Requiem for a Dream flashbacks. What kind of weird pills are they on?
[info]cpl593h 14th-Oct-2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
lol I am applying to Yale and I love this fucking show.
[info]tehkatt 15th-Oct-2008 12:21 am (UTC)
My friend is obsessed with GG and she's at Harvard Dental School.

But I do agree the large majority of teen viewers are not Ivy bound.
[info]heycunthead 15th-Oct-2008 01:08 am (UTC)
mte
[info]labeljunkie 15th-Oct-2008 02:13 am (UTC)
Ugly fat girls that are watching Gossip Girl*

It's a stereotype, but it's generally true. Look at the photos of the GG fans who approach the actors in those posts.. none of them are attractive
[info]shannondepp 14th-Oct-2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
oh stfu pretentious assholes. They spoke very highly of Yale throughout the whole episode, Brown should be offended
[info]smallaffair 14th-Oct-2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
lol srsly
[info]purplerains 14th-Oct-2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
And Hunter. Poor Hunter!
[info]misspinkkate 14th-Oct-2008 10:11 pm (UTC)
awww, what did they say about Hunter? I can only imagine.
[info]nunya_b 14th-Oct-2008 10:48 pm (UTC)
poor brown, seriously
[info]heycunthead 15th-Oct-2008 01:08 am (UTC)
haha iawtc
[info]anydoppelganger 15th-Oct-2008 03:22 am (UTC)
Brown SHOULD be offended because they don't even really count as an Ivy League school

I kid, I kid
[info]javeh 14th-Oct-2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
do people really watch this show? outside of grade schoolers?
[info]lifeofgatsby 14th-Oct-2008 11:34 pm (UTC)
As much as ONTD would love to believe otherwise, not really.
[info]akaich0u 14th-Oct-2008 11:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I'm in college and it's a definite guilty pleasure.
[info]xtinkerbellax 14th-Oct-2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
grade schoolers are definitely not the target audience for this show lol, it's for teenagers/early twenty somethings, its supposed to be a guilty please show.
[info]justapalindrome 15th-Oct-2008 03:02 am (UTC)
I'm in grad (not a typo) school and I watch this show ::headdesk::
[info]noplanesgo 14th-Oct-2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
how is serena ~famous~ i watched the last half of this last night, and they're making her out to be a celeb when shes like a chick in high school
[info]shannondepp 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
she was hanging with celebutantes and Page Six wrote about her
[info]evett 14th-Oct-2008 10:12 pm (UTC)
shes a new york socialite


page six is full pictures of those party girls. like paris hilton was before she came out with the sex tape.
[info]cut_piece 14th-Oct-2008 10:12 pm (UTC)
young wealthy socialite who hangs out with famous people now
[info]bellwetherr 14th-Oct-2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
because she was famous in the books.
[info]to_the_hilt 14th-Oct-2008 10:20 pm (UTC)
oic, it makes total sense now
[info]to_the_hilt 14th-Oct-2008 10:17 pm (UTC)
mte. i enjoy the show but c'mon now, how are these people so well-known? but i guess it's similar to all those laguna beach/the hills people being famous.
[info]oceanhue 14th-Oct-2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
It looks like the students at Yale fail at common sense
[info]disclosure 14th-Oct-2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
i swear blake gets more annoying every episode. and she seems to be displaying her implants more proudly.
[info]in_this_love 14th-Oct-2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
she has implants?? no way!
[info]disclosure 17th-Oct-2008 04:53 am (UTC)
yeah she definitely does. an ontd-er a few months ago was talking about how she went to high school with her and that she came back to school one fall with the fake boobs. the boobs were before the nose job, i think.
[info]agguss 15th-Oct-2008 12:04 am (UTC)
I don't know if she has or hasn't got implants, but come one, that shirt? I spent all the episode trying to figure out that thanks to that shirt.
[info]hotforbabyleg 14th-Oct-2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
um, iirc the book's realistic depiction of the ivy league had hot and socially adjusted people going to harvard. and serena made out with a boy with "a strong massachusetts accent."
[info]saraken 15th-Oct-2008 03:27 am (UTC)
"a strong massachusetts accent."
lol
[info]harrypworshiper 14th-Oct-2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
HE SHOULD JUST BE HAPPY THAT YALE IS GETTING ALL THIS PUBLICITY WHAT WITH EMMA'S VISIT AND ALL
[info]harrypworshiper on 2nd thought14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
well, not that the school needs it. but still.
[info]timandnorah 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
STUPID HEADBAND?! That's absurd! That was one of her prettiest!
[info]tucker 14th-Oct-2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
I love her headbands
[info]timandnorah 14th-Oct-2008 10:51 pm (UTC)
I loled last night when they were pulling hair and Blair was like MY HEADBAND
[info]toystory 14th-Oct-2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
i know, that headband was my favorite
[info]oceanhue 14th-Oct-2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
NO it was UGLY
[info]mossharts 14th-Oct-2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
How fucking dare she, right?

I was outraged. Blair/Headbands = OTP.
[info]amelie_olsen 14th-Oct-2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
her headbands are fantastic
[info]to_the_hilt 14th-Oct-2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
I know! I wish I could wear all her headbands but, alas, my head is not all that conducive to headband wearing for some reason. =\
[info]cherry_waves09 14th-Oct-2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
lol, it really was.
[info]heycunthead 15th-Oct-2008 01:10 am (UTC)
i liked the headband but OMG THAT HAT AT THE END....
[info]neonchrome 15th-Oct-2008 01:54 am (UTC)
i just loved that in the fight she screamed "OH! MY HEADBAND!" hahaha
i always want to wear headbands but they give me a headache after a while.
[info]grapevineburns 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
LOL GET OVER IT YALE
[info]anasella_emm 14th-Oct-2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
omg OT, but aaden!!!!!!!!!!!
[info]purplerains 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
LOL

They need to remove the stick that's launched up their behinds. Besides, they're just mad because "they may be the future leaders of the world, but Chuck Bass owns them."
[info]tucker 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
Does anyone have a YouTube link to the fight between Blair and Serena?
[info]purplerains 14th-Oct-2008 10:15 pm (UTC)
[info]tucker 14th-Oct-2008 10:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
[info]fouralarm 15th-Oct-2008 12:04 am (UTC)
... so all of my friends tell me that this show is amazing but this clip certainly didn't inspire me to watch it
[info]oh_debauchery 15th-Oct-2008 03:14 am (UTC)
Hmmmm
Does the Dean walk out at the end and see them fighting?
If not, kudos to GG for NOT ending this scene in the most predictable way possible

That being said, I've been considering buying season 1 because I'm sure I'd love it, so matter how ridiculous it seems
[info]pleasdtomeetme 14th-Oct-2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
Did Brown release a statement during The OC?

I thought the episode was great, and I love Blair's headband.
[info]ericasays 14th-Oct-2008 10:15 pm (UTC)
or how about Family Guy, which constantly shits on Brown.


But you don't see Brown getting its underpants twisted.
[info]swizzlemeup 14th-Oct-2008 10:41 pm (UTC)
That's cause they're laid-back hippietype, dude ;)
[info]jedimistress16 14th-Oct-2008 11:41 pm (UTC)
No, Brown did not. The OC did run the script by Brown in advance just for FACTUAL stuff.

Brown can't be bothered with crazy stuff like this. Yale: FAIL!
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