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3:41 pm - 05/28/2008

Cate Blanchett defends "child pornographer"



SYDNEY (AFP) — Hollywood star Cate Blanchett Tuesday joined prominent arts figures in condemning moves to prosecute a renowned photographer on obscenity charges, saying it damaged Australia's cultural reputation.

Photographer Bill Henson has been at the centre of a debate about art and pornography after an exhibition of his work, which featured naked 12- and 13-year-old children, was shut down by police last week and 20 works seized.

Police have said they are likely to lay charges over the images which Prime Minister Kevin Rudd described as "absolutely revolting".

Blanchett, who with her husband is joint artistic director of the Sydney Theatre Company, has signed an open letter in which members of Australia's artistic community express their support for Henson, the Sydney Morning Herald said.

All the signatories were part of Rudd's national summit on future directions held in Canberra last month, the paper said on its website.

"As members of the Creative Stream of the Australia 2020 Summit, we wish to express our dismay at the police raid on Bill Henson's recent Sydney exhibition, the allegations that he is a child pornographer, and the subsequent reports that he and others may be charged with obscenity," the letter reads.

"The potential prosecution of one of our most respected artists is no way to build a Creative Australia, and does untold damage to our cultural reputation."


The signatories, which include Museum of Contemporary Art director Elizabeth Ann Macgregor and academic and writer Professor Larissa Behrendt, said the public debate about art and ethics was welcome.

But they were clear in their support of Henson, whose work has been shown widely around Australia.

"The work itself is not pornographic, even though it includes depictions of naked human beings," the letter reads.

"It is more justly seen in a tradition of the nude in art that stretches back to the ancient Greeks, and which includes painters such as Caravaggio and Michelangelo."

The controversy has caused galleries around the country to reassess their Henson works, with Newcastle City Council Tuesday pulling down a website that featured some of Henson's work on police advice.

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[info]oh_sophie 28th-May-2008 06:10 am (UTC)
nudity doesn't necessarily equate sexuality
[info]babloo328 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
IAWTC

That notion is lost on most people. Nudity doesn't necessarily serve to titillate.
[info]jkpolk 28th-May-2008 06:43 am (UTC)
I think a majority of people do get this, but they also know there is a small subsegment who will be titillated regardless, and people are scared shitless of that subsegment and don't want to encourage them.

I definitely don't agree with that route but I can understand emotionally how the fear of the pedophiles can make folks overreact in the wrong direction.

Unfortunately the more people get involved it becomes more extreme, because they reinforce each other's fears. It's very sad how things can go off the rails so badly because there's a very real evil that people are running like hell from.
[info]fireflies4sale 28th-May-2008 06:46 am (UTC)
That's absolutely true... when we're discussing adults and the adult body as art. Nudity can be deeply expressive beyond the realm of sexuality, but I think there's a line that's crossed when it involves the bodies of children. There are just too many unsavory types out there looking to exploit children and their innocence, sexuality, and youth. This art was unnecessary in that sense.
[info]dolcianiblows 28th-May-2008 06:13 am (UTC)
ikr?
[info]empress_jae 28th-May-2008 06:16 am (UTC)
agreed.
[info]shanna 28th-May-2008 06:20 am (UTC)
IAWTC
[info]chung_____chung 28th-May-2008 06:33 am (UTC)
Its really upsetting how our society views nudity automatically as sexual. :/
[info]suborbital 28th-May-2008 06:41 am (UTC)
Oh goodness, common sense! IAWTC
[info]lasombradeti 28th-May-2008 06:59 am (UTC)
iT dOeS iN aMeRiCa
[info]dazedpuckbunny 28th-May-2008 07:11 am (UTC)
Agreed.
[info]_losthope 28th-May-2008 07:47 am (UTC)
totally well said.

I mean people that get off to [on?] that will also, like someone above said, get off to diaper ads or baby magazines, etc. This is just like banning GTA and torture movies, etc., because they 'influence' kids to go kill their peers. Or skinny models because they 'make' kids puke their food up.

Anything and everything can trigger something in someone. As long as the childrens parents consented [and the children didn't object to it] and it wasn't sexual [in the sense of poses, etc] then I don't see the issue.
[info]forgethissmile 28th-May-2008 09:01 am (UTC)
Agreed!

It's how we're brought up now -- to think that nudity means sex and sex is bad so nudity is bad.

Some of the most beautiful pictures I've ever seen have been figure photographs.
[info]sweetnitanitro 28th-May-2008 11:14 am (UTC)
Srsly.
[info]cartoongeek 28th-May-2008 12:25 pm (UTC)
Agreed. Personally, I think people who automatically thinks sex when they see nudity needs to talk to someone.
[info]rissa_rose 28th-May-2008 12:39 pm (UTC)
ia.
[info]gassybynight 28th-May-2008 05:14 pm (UTC)
And, more importantly, sexuality doesnt equal pornography.
[info]fogandpearls 28th-May-2008 06:10 am (UTC)
and here is cate blanchett looking pensive.
[info]millesimes 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
lol.
[info]imsuredoofy 28th-May-2008 06:18 am (UTC)
l.o.l.
[info]daydreamrachey 28th-May-2008 06:27 am (UTC)
lolz
[info]guadalcanal 28th-May-2008 06:11 am (UTC)
idk, as a photographer major certain nudes I've always disliked. Like Nan Golden's work :[ not very artistic!
[info]oh_sophie 28th-May-2008 06:15 am (UTC)
but to oppose, Dian Arbus!

sometimes, I forget the people are naked.
[info]guadalcanal 28th-May-2008 06:44 am (UTC)
mm Diane Arbus is a legend to be sure. Sometimes I feel awkward when photographers have shots of naked kids though :( I always feel like someone is going to be like "MORALLY WRONG!"

They should see Joel Peter-Witkin's work, now that is amazing but people would shit a brick
[info]knifeinmyhand 28th-May-2008 06:33 am (UTC)
WAT

A lot of Nan Goldin's photographs are amazing. She's wonderful at capturing grittiest and passionate moments.
[info]dangerbuffalo 28th-May-2008 06:11 am (UTC)
Sensationalist headline much?
[info]kryptonitepussy 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
ikr. it's ridic.
[info]cavortingbeasty 28th-May-2008 07:18 am (UTC)
mte
[info]nattiecakes 28th-May-2008 11:22 am (UTC)
iawtc
[info]freakingtastic 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
say it aint so!
[info]mistress_kizuna 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
Well, as long as the children weren't being shown in an overtly sexual way, then maybe it's not so bad. I don't know.
[info]pinkprincessnat 28th-May-2008 07:07 am (UTC)
They were quite a bit though. its like all dark with them posing and it just focus on that aspect of their boides :S
[info]bits_and_tits 28th-May-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
I would have to see them first!

The saddest thing is I can't even watch baby nappy adds because I think of all the dirty pedos that are getting off on that shit!
[info]fathomthis 28th-May-2008 06:19 am (UTC)
argh im the same :( its sad how the media contributes so much to this hysteria over nudity

i was actually really shocked here in japan when showed fully naked babies and breastfeeding on tv in the middle of the day. something like that would neverrrr be allowed in england. although having said that, there is still a lot of perversion here despite the more relaxed attitude towards nudity :/
[info]bits_and_tits 28th-May-2008 06:38 am (UTC)
No that's wierd, not the breast feeding as much as the full baby nudity!

People are pretty sick!

Is it true that in Japan you can buy school girl underwear in vending machines (or is that a sick rumour).
[info]lazy_daisy64 28th-May-2008 04:05 pm (UTC)
I need to see them before I can comment.
[info]de_wood 28th-May-2008 06:13 am (UTC)
If his stuff is pornography, then they should be going after the diaper commercials too.
[info]honeypants 28th-May-2008 06:15 am (UTC)
and parents who have photos of their children taking a bath
[info]lamboyster 28th-May-2008 06:22 am (UTC)
[info]ultravlntmoloko 28th-May-2008 06:31 am (UTC)
oh no!
[info]ex_gaze 28th-May-2008 06:15 am (UTC)
idk i mean some people are really sensitive about that kind of thing, especially those who have been sexually abused.

Edited at 2008-05-28 06:15 am (UTC)
[info]readinthemargin 28th-May-2008 06:41 am (UTC)
one of the purposes of art is to elicit emotion. that emotion depends upon the viewers' experiences. if we stopped making and displaying art because it offended one subgroup of people.....well, fuck.
[info]ex_gaze 28th-May-2008 06:42 am (UTC)
with all due respect to the kids who were photographed, i agree with your comment
[info]ze_toaster 28th-May-2008 07:04 am (UTC)
...well, then maybe they could not go to that exhibition?
[info]clinchingit 28th-May-2008 04:19 pm (UTC)
You could possibly use that as an argument to get the works taken off display - if you knew the right people - but to prosecute the artist? No way.
[info]spellotaped 28th-May-2008 06:15 am (UTC)
that's stupid. i can't see why any 12- or 13-year-old would really want to be photographed naked, but if they & their parents consent to having the photos taken, it shouldn't be seen as "pornography". pornography to me means that sexual acts are being performed. there's nothing wrong with a naked body, however young or old.
[info]cinecat 28th-May-2008 06:17 am (UTC)
Not to sound gross, but I want to see them and then judge
[info]eclecticmuse 28th-May-2008 06:36 am (UTC)
Same.
[info]samstadance 28th-May-2008 08:54 am (UTC)
Thats not gross at all! At least you want to see them unlike all the mommas and poppas who have never seen his pictures and are just freaking out because the media says they are bad! (I dont think they where bad at all).
[info]secretivexhero 28th-May-2008 06:18 am (UTC)
just seems to me 12-13 year olds will regret having been photographed later. doesnt seem right to me to photograph anyone under 18 even if they consent to it because they arent grown up yet, they might not realize the consequences that come with it

dunno lol.
[info]slutdrunkmystag 28th-May-2008 06:25 am (UTC)
That is, to me, the problem. It doesn't bother me so much when they are babies, because babies are very anonymous. Let's be real, they all look the same, and nobody is going to recognize you when you're older by seeing a baby picture.

By the time they're 12 to 13, they look recognizable, and they have started to develop sexually. Maybe it's unhip of me to say, but I don't think he should be doing that, even if he's not photographing them in a really sexual way.
[info]realityvsdreams 28th-May-2008 06:37 am (UTC)
iawtc, something just seems off to me about taking pictures of naked 12 or 13 year olds, even though i know it isn't in a sexual way.
[info]chung_____chung 28th-May-2008 06:36 am (UTC)
I agree, but that really extends beyond just being photographed nude, doesn't it.
[info]ringring 28th-May-2008 09:00 am (UTC)
itawtc

I think that's kind of the point. Art is art, yes. I'm not offended by what I see, I'm just worried about the 13 year old when she's 20 and thinking to herself "why did I let a guy take nude pictures of me and put them up in a gallery for everyone to see?"
[info]sacredxtears 28th-May-2008 06:19 am (UTC)
obviously there is a difference between nudes and just being naked. remember Manet during his time, Olympia. His paintings were considered distasteful and inappropriate. whereas Titians Venus of Urbino was classified as a nude and was acceptable and in good taste. Things are obviously taking a new direction in the 21st century. Children are being involved and this is where people get lost. Personally I have not seen the works and can't have an appropriate and objective comment. But I will admit it makes me a tad bit uneasy knowing young children are the focal points of the nude or naked art works,

[info]numbedtoe 28th-May-2008 06:28 am (UTC)
I have no idea if you have a point or not, since I can't read it. Tiny text = fail.
[info]wallof_illusion 28th-May-2008 06:33 am (UTC)
Are you serious? You can't read that?
[info]sacredxtears 28th-May-2008 06:35 am (UTC)
on a PC?
try CONTROL +
on a mac?
try COMMAND +

if you want text to show up bigger...
duh.

[info]chung_____chung 28th-May-2008 06:38 am (UTC)
I don't know if it is exactly the same because you are comparing style while this seems to deal more with content.
[info]fireflies4sale 28th-May-2008 06:47 am (UTC)
I wholly agree with this post! Great commentary!
[info]varookamcsalt 28th-May-2008 01:37 pm (UTC)
it's refreshing to see an actual art debate on ONTD.


[info]sharks_teeth 28th-May-2008 06:22 am (UTC)
Idk i hate the idea of art censorship but honestly i don't agree with those images being displayed. I don't think Henson was necessarily abusive in taking the shots but i think having them on display could too easily be seen as justification for lusting after children in the mind of someone who is already desperate to have their beliefs recognized. I think there is a difference between those photographs and nappy/diaper commercials. The photos weren't intended to be sexualised but they were still intended to evoke an emotional response.
[info]sophistiquer 28th-May-2008 06:22 am (UTC)
when i see her, all i think of is her role in the new indy film.
[info]daydreamrachey 28th-May-2008 06:28 am (UTC)
YOUUUUUUUUU vill halp us find...eet!
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