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10:50 am - 03/14/2008

Fuck school. Kids want to be famous!

Children are turning away from schoolwork because they see education as unhelpful to their ambition to become rich and famous as reality TV stars, a teaching union claims today.

Their role models include David and Victoria Beckham and WAGs – wives and girlfriends of highly paid footballers – according to the Association of Teachers and Lecturers.

It has put forward a motion for its annual conference this weekend saying that members are “appalled at the extent of the decline in this country into the cult of celebrity, which is perverting children’s aspirations and expectations”. It adds: “This compounds the subsequent sense of failure, alienation and low self-esteem when celebrity status is not achieved.”

The union asked 300 teachers about whom their pupils modelled themselves on. More than half said David Beckham. Victoria Beckham, the former Spice Girl and self-professed fashion expert, was a role model for almost a third of girls.

Almost two thirds of teachers said children they taught aspired to be sports stars or pop singers. Many said their pupils sought to be famous with no discernible talent. A third of teachers said that Paris Hilton, the heiress and gossip-column fixture, was a favourite role model.

Julie Gilligan, a primary school teacher in Salford, said that she had seen and heard pupils emulating the behaviour and language of footballers and pop stars in the playground and in school, “including disturbingly age-inappropriate acts by young girls in school talent shows”.

Another member, Elizabeth Farrar, who teaches in a primary school near Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire, said: “Too many of the pupils believe that academic success is unnecessary, because they will be able to access fame and fortune quite easily through a reality TV show.”

Robert Sanders, a junior school teacher in Bath, said: “One girl said that she wished to be a WAG.”

Mary Bousted, the general secretary of the association, said: “We are not surprised about infiltration of celebrity culture in schools – it reflects the current media obsession with celebrity and the effect of celebrity culture on society as a whole. Celebrities can have a positive effect on pupils. They can raise pupils’ aspirations and ambitions for the future.

“However, we are deeply concerned that many pupils believe celebrity status is available to everyone. They do not understand the hard work it takes to achieve such status and do not think it is important to be actively engaged in schoolwork as education is not needed for a celebrity status.”

Source: The Times
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sweetnitanitro 14th-Mar-2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
“including disturbingly age-inappropriate acts by young girls in school talent shows”.

I used to work with kids and I had to ask a group of 12/13 year old girls to tone their talent show act down. It was slightly amusing until the 5 year olds started copying them.
mysticgypsy128 14th-Mar-2008 02:24 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean. I work at an elementary school and these kids are acting like high schoolers. They way they talk and dress...it makes me so sad.
frozen_jelly 15th-Mar-2008 03:14 am (UTC)
I worked at a school where an outside company ran the afterschool dance class. At the end f term the school gathered to watch the performance of the 6-8 year olds... dancing to Sexy Back. Not appropriate!
decivitatedei 14th-Mar-2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
I disagree with that state of mind. I think education is much more fulfilling than being rich and famous.


Happiness = one of the oldest libraries in the world, surrounded by ancient books and a few candles, reading Vergil.

Aristotle: 'Men of the most vulgar type, seem to identify the good, or happiness, with pleasure; which is the reason why they love the life of enjoyment. For there are, we may say, three prominent types of life -- that just mentioned, the political, and thirdly the contemplative life. People of superior refinement and of active disposition identify happiness with honor; for this is, roughly speaking, the end of the political life. But it seems too superficial, since it is thought to depend on those who bestow honor rather than on him who receives it. The life of money-making is one undertaken under compulsion, and wealth is evidently not the good we are seeking; for it is merely useful for the sake of something else.'

Dante following Aristotle: 'We may obtain in life, two kinds of felicity, by following two roads, one being good, the other excellent: one is the active life, the other the contemplative. Now although we obtain a good kind of felicity through the active life, the contemplative lifeleads us to a felicity and beatitude that are excellent, as the Philosopher proves in Book X of his Ethics.'




portmanteaux 14th-Mar-2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
Happiness = one of the oldest libraries in the world, surrounded by ancient books and a few candles, reading Vergil.

Aaaaaaahahaha, I can't stop laughing about how very far this is from sitting around on ONTD. You may be in the wrong place, my friend.

I always end up surprised when philosophy pops up on ONTD. You'd think that and celeb gossip would be like oil and water, huh?
decivitatedei 15th-Mar-2008 01:00 am (UTC)
I know, right? XD

I do enjoy both.
aggiechan 14th-Mar-2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
A third of teachers said that Paris Hilton, the heiress and gossip-column fixture, was a favourite role model.

Whatever.. they obviously don't deserve an education.
beautifiers 14th-Mar-2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
iawtc AND i love your icon.
bagelofdeath 14th-Mar-2008 12:15 pm (UTC)
Well, let's be honest. It's hard to see the rewards of education in today's world. You get less money for actually saving lives than you do for pretending to save lives. Who wants to sit around in school when the richest, most 'beautiful' people just get drunk and party all the time with no negative results save for a stint in rehab after which you're embraced once more? What's the point of studying when you'll get no recognition? Instead of paying tuition, by some breast implants, get some surgery and prostitute yourself to some reality show. You'll probably end up richer.
decivitatedei 14th-Mar-2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
That's not true at all. The results of education are everywhere if you look around for them, and not search for the nearest can of beer or naked chick. Unfortunately, that's the mentality most teens have these days because the right values aren't instilled at a young age. The computers you type on are the result of education; the medicine you take is the result of education. I glance around me and I see scholars everywhere, professors publishing books, and libraries containing floors and floors of volumes. Recognition and fame, too.

Of course, I could have been in some seedy pub, with drugs and alcohol and strippers in view, and I could have argued education is not rewarding and that it's invisible, but it really depends on the choice you make.
bagelofdeath 14th-Mar-2008 12:43 pm (UTC)
I know that. And you know that. I'm in university right now. I wasn't saying all that as a statement of fact, I was saying how a lot of teenagers today ARE seeing the world that way.
sekhmet2 14th-Mar-2008 03:54 pm (UTC)
Couldn't have said it better myself, bb. You hit it spot on, and unfortunately so many kids (and plenty of not-so-much-kids) truly think that they're going to be the next Paris or Lohan or Kanye or whatever. Who has time to actually make something of yourself with education when you can go on American Idol or some other reality show. Sad, sad....
fioredimerda 14th-Mar-2008 12:15 pm (UTC)
Where are their parents?! Teach the children some values!
nofantasy 14th-Mar-2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
IA! I'm also one of those crazy folk who think that schools are responsible for the moral decline of families, though. I don't think there is anything natural about taking kids of their homes 6+ hours a day plus homework (not to mention hours in front of the TV and computer but that's something else altogether) and then expecting that families can shape their children's lives.
fioredimerda 14th-Mar-2008 03:18 pm (UTC)
Kids are overstimulated and so influenced by the media, there's no way they can escape. I'm glad I grew up in a time when I had a great time just painting with my crayons, heh.
ge_ge_next 14th-Mar-2008 12:25 pm (UTC)
i don't wanna be famous, i just wanna be RICH as fuck!
mofo_pig 14th-Mar-2008 12:32 pm (UTC)
me too
carrie1982 14th-Mar-2008 01:40 pm (UTC)
Same here, being famous would suck. I'd be one of those celebs that punched photographers.
sookayee 14th-Mar-2008 12:29 pm (UTC)
That's okay. Less competition for those who can achieve.
botanika99 14th-Mar-2008 01:03 pm (UTC)
agreed
mofo_pig 14th-Mar-2008 12:34 pm (UTC)
It would be cool to be all rich and famous, but I would be much happier owning my own art gallery.
dirt_is_luck 14th-Mar-2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
It's true - just look at Idol, Big Brother, etc - everyone thinks that they DESERVE fame and that they are not worth anything unless they have it. Everyone has a story about how much they struggled and how they are just sooooo talented and the DESERVE IT GODDAMMIT. It's like fame if the only way to prove you are "someone" - I mean, just look at all the Idol rejects in the first round of audtions... they obviously know they can't sing but after years of people telling them that they are so *special* they believe it and think that being famous and recognized is the only thing worth living for.
ellowyntinuviel 14th-Mar-2008 12:42 pm (UTC)
Well...some kids are stupid. They don't have any other options! If they can't become famous or marry someone rich, they are doomed to spend their lives as cheap crack whores...and even then, they might be able to get their own show!
scapefrmreality 14th-Mar-2008 12:44 pm (UTC)
lol british ppl
makidah 14th-Mar-2008 12:48 pm (UTC)
I'm happy i was a child in the 90's i think our generation was much more innocent.Kids scare me these days,but then again there were no Paris,no reality TV shows,no Bratz but Barbies fame whores were definitely not as numerous as nowdays.Ha! Good times.
fauxjoy 14th-Mar-2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
iawtc.
redletternite 14th-Mar-2008 12:52 pm (UTC)
I forget who it was, but someone once said that if we wanted to live in a perfect society, we should make teachers and doctors the highest paid occupations, not sports stars and celebrities.
yasaiya 14th-Mar-2008 01:00 pm (UTC)
Because it's true. People are talent and good at things like teaching, etc, will go on and do something else where they'll get more money.
carrie1982 14th-Mar-2008 01:42 pm (UTC)
I agree, I really hate that and a lot of athletes only work about 8 months a year and make more money in a week than most of us make in a year.
sophaski 14th-Mar-2008 12:53 pm (UTC)
it's all such crap. i blame big brother.
punkywuxhere 14th-Mar-2008 12:54 pm (UTC)
haha fine

more job opportunities for me!

suckaaaas
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