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10:30 am - 01/25/2008

Gaius Charles (aka Smash Williams) Interview

The parade of Friday Night Lights stars to come through the allDAY offices continued today when Gaius Charles stopped by before his interview with Ann and Natalie. WATCH VIDEO

Charles plays "Smash" Williams on the award-winning and critically acclaimed show, which focuses on a high school in a fictional Texas town -- particularly on the football team.

"Smash" is the team's cocky running back, and the size of his talent is matched only by the size of his mouth. But as his co-star Adrianne Palicki told me back in November, Charles and "Smash" could not be more different. (You can also read my Q&A with co-stars Kyle Chandler and Connie Britton HERE.)

Here's our conversation:





DF: With this whole "Friday Night Lights" experience, what's been the most interesting or bizarre thing to happen to you over the past couple years?

Gaius Charles: One of the weirdest things is that sometimes people on the street will recognize me, but they won't remember my character's name. So they'll be like, "Hey, what's up Flash? How you doin', man?" Or, "What's up, Mash?" And I say, "It's Smash." They say, "Oh, yeah! Yeah! Smash!"

It's cool and endearing running into die-hard fans. Makes you feel so honored and privileged to be on this show.

DF: Is it also weird when people come up to and they don't necessarily know your real name, but they know your character's name?

GC: It is, because that's the other thing. People walk up to you and expect you to be Smash. I'm like, "Hey, how you doin', I'm Gaius Charles. I play Smash on TV." You walk them through it a little bit, and they come around. But it is a challenge at times.

I run into a lot of high school kids, and they see me as that jock. I have to tell them, "Hey, I'm just a regular guy."

DF: Sort of along those lines...I talked to Adrianne Palicki a couple months ago, and I asked her who was most like their character on "Friday Night Lights" and who was least like their character. You were her pick for "least like their character." Was that a fair assessment?

GC: Very fair. Very fair and accurate. When we all first got cast, we all went out to lunch with [executive producer] Peter Berg. He's sitting at the head of the table and I'm sitting kind of next to him. We're talking and talking. He's asking me questions, I'm asking him questions. After a while, I keep talking, and he's just staring at me.

I kind of look over at him finally, and ask, "What's up?" He goes, "You're really different from your character. I mean, really different." And I'm like, "Okay, so should I get my burger to go? Am I fired?"

But his faith in me, and the overall production's faith in all of us as actors, to create freely and go into some places that might not be immediate, but are tangible to us as artists, really helps us to bring the heart to the show. Which is what I think everyone responds to.

DF: Some of the subjects that your character has gotten into include steroid use, all of the college recruiting stuff, and now this inter-racial relationship...what's been the most interesting subject for you to sink your teeth into?

GC: The most interesting thing so far has been this whole college recruiting process, which is really sort of the arc of the whole two seasons. Right now, the episodes that we're about to see basically have to do with Smash getting into trouble with the police, and having his whole future football career in jeopardy, and possibly taken away from him.

The few episodes that haven't aired yet are probably going to be the most compelling for his character. And I certainly dug really deep to portray that truthfully.

DF: On the recruiting subject...I was taken aback when, I think Smash was in the burger place, and in walks the recruiter from TMU...and he was played by Rick Barnes, the real-life basketball coach at the University of Texas. What was up with that?

GC: You know, we get a couple famous guest appearances every now and then. We got UT lending their face and talent to us. We also had the UT football coach...

DF: Mack Brown...

GC: Mack Brown, right. He did the pilot. It was just a joy to be working with him. It was kind of cool, because usually everyone comes in the trailer, they shake hands and they're very polite. But the basketball coach came in, sat down next to me and started talking to me like I was one of his players, before we had even really met.

So I already knew that this guy and I would have a really cool scene, and it was fun working with him.

DF: Who's your favorite character on the show?

GC: My favorite character? Oh...<pained look> Oh...I don't know if I can rank them.

DF: How about your favorite couple characters.

GC: Okay, let me name a couple. One would definitely be Brad Leland, who plays Buddy Garrity. I can't get enough Buddy Garrity in my life, man. I love that guy, he's so funny. The actress who plays Smash's mom, Liz Michael. She's a fantastic person and a fantastic actress, a pleasure to work with.

Kyle [Chandler, who plays Coach Taylor] is great, I love working with him. Connie [Britton, who plays Tami Taylor], obviously. I love Landry's comedic stuff that he does. He always keeps me laughing. It's funny, I always read the script and have a sense for what he's going to say. Then I watch [actor Jesse Plemons's] performance, and I say, "This guy is so hilarious." So yeah, I'm definitely in a cast with some great actors.

DF: The show reminds me of "The Wire," which is another of my favorite shows, because it's gotten great critical acclaim, but the ratings haven't been there. Is there something you can put your finger on as to why it hasn't taken off with viewers?

GC: It's funny that you should say that, because I honestly can't. Early on in the process, you get a little disheartened by that. You wonder why people aren't watching, how can we publicize our show more, what can you do. But then you realize that your greatest duty to the show is not to worry about who's watching and who's not, but to keep the quality is what it is.

If you start worrying about the ratings or whether it's coming back, you lose an investment in the process of making the show. So that's what we've all tried to focus on. We won the AFI award again, second year in a row. I was here last year when it won the Peabody, I was at the ceremony for that. So the show continues to receive praise, and as the show continues to go on, we get more and more fans every week. So hopefully it will take off.

DF: Are you a football fan at all?

GC: I am, yeah. I actually watched the Giants game [against the Packers], which was crazy! It was just insane! I gotta admit, I wasn't rooting for the Giants from the beginning, but I guess in a "Friday Night Lights" sort of way, I'm with the underdogs now. So I'm with them, all the way to [the Super Bowl in] Arizona. They might be able to do it.

DF: Are you picking the Giants?

GC: Uh...YES! I will. I'll step out on a limb, just because it's the underdog.

DF: What shows do you watch on TV?

GC: I watch a lot of CNN. I love "The Situation Room," because I love how they can take the littlest news clip and totally blow it out of proportion, make it all dramatic with the flashy special effects and the scrollers and stuff.

I watch a lot of information TV. History Channel, TLC and all like that.

You know what my favorite show is, actually? "The Office." I didn't catch onto it until the third season. So when I caught on, I had to go buy the first two seasons on DVD and catch up. That show is so funny. That and "30 Rock." Tina Fey is so hilarious. Those are my two picks.



Gaius doesn't get enough credit, Smash is amazing.

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holey_moley8 25th-Jan-2008 03:58 pm (UTC)
Haha "Smashole" I loled at that sign for a while. Love FNL.
bliccy 25th-Jan-2008 04:02 pm (UTC)
He's such a cutie!
corianderstem 26th-Jan-2008 04:27 pm (UTC)
I heart your icon! Would you mind if I used it?
crazy_internet 25th-Jan-2008 04:05 pm (UTC)
I've never seen this show and I don't know who this guy is, but I love his taste in TV - very cute.
firecracked 25th-Jan-2008 04:05 pm (UTC)
Love. Love everything about this show. That's is all.
firecracked 25th-Jan-2008 04:06 pm (UTC)
That's is all?

I'm dumb.
___saturdays 25th-Jan-2008 04:09 pm (UTC)
EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH THIS DAMN SHOW.
RIGHT NOW.
saratoddla 25th-Jan-2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
Agreed!! We never miss it in my house. :)
baby_phat_honne 25th-Jan-2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
I love Smash - he cracks me up. I felt really bad for his sister in last week's episode.
noizangel 25th-Jan-2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
I love FNL. And I love Smash/Gaius.
youngthings 25th-Jan-2008 04:14 pm (UTC)
I think if NBC didn't make it available to watch on their site they'd get more ratings. It would suck but I definitely think the show would benefit if they did it. Plus, it' so good!
baloola 25th-Jan-2008 04:22 pm (UTC)
I love him and his character SO MUCH.
specialmei 25th-Jan-2008 04:37 pm (UTC)
I tried watching the first episode, but football bores me to death irl and I hate sports movies. i wanted to like FNL but I just couldn't ;_;
ladylawanda 25th-Jan-2008 05:35 pm (UTC)
FYI, the second season gets away a lot more from the football, but I understand if not everything clicks
oc_craze 25th-Jan-2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
You know, this is the reason I didn't watch at first. And coming from a person who HATES sports, trust me, you'll end up liking it.
doesnotsway 25th-Jan-2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
The Pilot is very football centric, but the rest of the episodes are all very character driven. Football stays important, of course, but it's hardly the main focus.
chamilllionare 27th-Jan-2008 05:11 am (UTC)
the pilot sucks but i think that's it... just watch ep. 2!!!
ruffians 25th-Jan-2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
love him so much

his storyline this season is boring though, i must admit.
ruffians 25th-Jan-2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
also i love how much they represent the office on fnl. nbc love.
ladylawanda 25th-Jan-2008 05:35 pm (UTC)
omg I know
laminy 25th-Jan-2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
I know his real name, I just don't know how to pronounce it. But I love him, I love reading interviews with him. I think that everybody's right in their assessment of him being nothing like Smash. He seems like such a sweetie, and a smart guy.
katrinafrancine 25th-Jan-2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
It's pronounced like GUY-us or at least that's how a character on BSG with the same name pronounces his.
laminy 25th-Jan-2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, thank you. Now that I know how to say it (or at least how other people do), I think it's a nice name.
katrinafrancine 25th-Jan-2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
Np. I think it's a nice name too, kind of different.
tangerinefriday 26th-Jan-2008 06:04 am (UTC)
I'm impressed that someone in real life has that name.

And even more that this person isn't also a weepy British nutcase ;)
talim_x 25th-Jan-2008 05:08 pm (UTC)
I love that his name is Gaius. There's something about breaking out the ancient names that doubles the sexy.
winonaforever 25th-Jan-2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
I love him so much, he is a really great actor.
wartimechocolat 25th-Jan-2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
His name is Gaius? As in Gaius Julius Caesar? The Roman name? What?
punkywuxhere 25th-Jan-2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
omg my mom is obsessed with this show

i can't even talk to her until the commercials LOL

i tried watching it, but this one girl really pissed me off. I think it was the coach's daughter or whatever.

and then there's the guy with the orange/really light hair, and he always has that stupid expression on his face XDDD
littleeva 25th-Jan-2008 05:44 pm (UTC)
He should watch The Wire.

I like the name Gaius, like Gaius Caligula.

Edited at 2008-01-25 05:46 pm (UTC)
azuree 25th-Jan-2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
Gaius doesn't get enough credit, Smash is amazing.

ia, aside from Eric and Tammy, he's the only character that has for the most part consistently held my attention. Well, I mean, Riggins does too, but Rigs doesn't have to do a hell of a lot to hold my attention. ;)
tcklemepnkfloyd 25th-Jan-2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
TIMMAH
<3
tcklemepnkfloyd 25th-Jan-2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
"it's gonna be like Cabo in my pants!" - smash williams
bbrownsugar 25th-Jan-2008 07:59 pm (UTC)
'So, I wanna know, was it like Cabo in your pants?' - Matt Saracen
doesnotsway 25th-Jan-2008 09:08 pm (UTC)
Aw, Smash. One of my favorite moments of S1 is when Tim tackles that guy that's calling Smash racist names. I totally like tear up.
kool_aidex893 25th-Jan-2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
Gaius doesn't get a lot of credit for his performance of Smash :(
He's so great
nino_et_amelie 25th-Jan-2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
So pretty, and so talented. And I love him even more knowing he loves 30 Rock/Tina Fey.
jellybeans 25th-Jan-2008 11:19 pm (UTC)
I love this guy :)
gunsandsmoke 25th-Jan-2008 11:33 pm (UTC)
omg i lovvve himmmm and FNL

my favorite character is saracen, every week i want to take him home with me and feed him hot soup and bob dylan records ♥♥
freakorgeek 26th-Jan-2008 12:36 am (UTC)
My favourite's Riggins but Smash is such a compelling character. Apart from the interracial relationship storyline, which I think is hella clumsy, I'm really enjoying Smash's storylines this season - especially his relationship with his mum.
chamilllionare 27th-Jan-2008 05:10 am (UTC)
ugh they are not dealing with that storyline well
maybejessmaybe 26th-Jan-2008 02:03 am (UTC)
i love FNL! i watched the entire first season in two days during winter break.
hornsorhalo 27th-Jan-2008 12:12 am (UTC)
Smash = Douche

Riggins ftw.
chamilllionare 27th-Jan-2008 05:09 am (UTC)
guys he is in a play in nyc in feb go see it!!! idk what its called but its about katrina i think??
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