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Entertainment Weekly: Gay Hollywood Out of Sight?



In the weeks before the 78th annual Academy Awards, Brokeback Mountain producer Diana Ossana already suspected what few outside Hollywood could imagine: Her film was going to lose the Best Picture race. ''Several people told me they knew a lot of Academy voters who just refused to see the film,'' says Ossana, who also co-wrote the screenplay with Larry McMurtry. This tragic love story between two men had dominated the critics' awards and banked $178 million worldwide. It even captivated sellout crowds in states like Oklahoma and Ohio — just not, apparently, in Academy screening rooms. ''What are they afraid of?'' McMurtry asked Ossana. ''It's just a movie.'' 

But Brokeback was more than a movie. It was a phenomenon that commanded the cultural conversation for months, from Jay Leno to YouTube to the cover of The New Yorker. More important, it proved that straight audiences would snap up tickets to a same-sex romance. Since then, a few gay-themed films have been released (e.g., Notes on a Scandal). But seemingly no studio — nor any studio art-house division — has greenlit a film with a gay lead character. ''I don't think any studio responded by saying, 'Quick, dust off whatever gay dramas we have!''' says one former studio head. As surprising as it seemed that Brokeback could lose the Oscar to Crash, the real shock is just now setting in: Brokeback may have changed nothing.

When audiences complain that Hollywood is out of touch with the rest of the country, it's invariably because a movie is deemed too liberal. When it comes to gay characters, however, it's out of touch for the exact opposite reason. In the past decade, America's attitudes toward homosexuality have shifted, particularly among young people.

A recent national poll of college freshman found that 61 percent approved of gay marriage, up 10 percent from a decade ago. Kids in high school grew up watching Will & Grace and can't recall a time when Ellen wasn't gay. These days, you might catch the gay romance on As the World Turns or get sucked into a bitchy same-sex speed date on MTV's Next. You could be captivated by Dr. Liz Cruz on Nip/Tuck or arrested by Det. Shakima Greggs on The Wire. And, of course, you can watch anything on the gay network, Logo, or the de facto gay network, Bravo. This is not to say that TV is perfect. A recent study by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation calculated that the number of gay regular characters on scripted network prime-time television had actually declined, to just 1.1 percent. That study didn't look at cable or reality TV, nor the total audience watching those shows. Regardless of whether the number of gay characters is up or down this year, the letters LGBT have become a part of television's alphabet soup, and audiences consume it, in their living rooms, by the millions.

While television has been fostering greater acceptance for gay people, movies remain stuck in the 20th century. Almost two years after Brokeback, the best Hollywood can do with gay content is the ''I'm not gay!'' punchlines of Wild Hogs or the homoerotic homophobia of 300. Even the ''gayest'' studio movie of the year, I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry, climaxed with stars Adam Sandler and Kevin James horrified by the idea of a same-sex kiss. Here's the weird thing: Walt Disney, the company behind Wild Hogs, is the corporate sibling of ABC, which, with Ugly Betty, Brothers & Sisters, and Desperate Housewives, is the most queer-inclusive broadcast network around. So what gives? How can TV shows be so progressive while movies seem so...old?

Because, well, the people running the movies are old — or, at least, they have old ideas. Movie executives tend to have been in their jobs longer than their TV counterparts and are more likely to fall victim to staid thinking. ''It's been my experience that television has a much higher turnover rate in the executive arena,'' says Greg Berlanti, exec producer of Brothers & Sisters. Consequently, he says, TV execs ''are often much younger, and their attitudes about being gay can end up being much more relaxed.'' It's also true that TV has a leg up on movies when it comes to creating complex characters: It's got 22 hours per season to fill. ''You can explore the more mundane details of a person's life in television and therefore [homosexuality] can just seem more matter-of-fact,'' says Alan Ball, creator of Six Feet Under. Movies have to convey an entire narrative in two hours. Nuance is often the first thing to get cut. ''Hollywood is more comfortable with movies that show being gay as an affliction,'' says writer-director Alek Keshishian, best known for Madonna: Truth or Dare. ''We're still at that place where it's got to be a big dramatic, political angle.'' If you're going to be a major gay character in a movie, the movie has to be about being gay. You have to be the AIDS patient (Philadelphia) or the victim of violence (Boys Don't Cry), the closet case (Far From Heaven), or the tortured serial killer (Monster).

If you even get that far. Studios are increasingly in the business of making mega-budget event movies that will hit as many target demographics as possible. In that climate, it's impossible for a Hollywood suit to imagine, say, The Bourne Ultimatum stud Jason Bourne being casually keen on a cute male techie. ''Big studio fare is about being as broadly appealing as possible,'' says a top exec. ''Having Jason Bourne be gay would [mean having] Jason Bourne's dating life look different from 90 percent of the population's. Where's the upside in that decision?''

Ask the makers of The Birdcage, which grossed $124 million in 1996. Or the producers of the 1997 hit In & Out, which earned, at the time, the second-biggest September opening weekend ever. For decades now, gay-themed films have won plaudits and profits, proving that audiences will pay to see entertaining movies, gay content or no. But Hollywood still treats gay-themed hits as an exception rather than as harbingers of a changing rule. Other genres haven't been saddled with such a burden. Boyz N the Hood in 1991 inspired a stream of urban hits. And in 2002, Chicago proved that the once moribund movie musical could make serious money, opening the door to Dreamgirls, Hairspray, and the upcoming Sweeney Todd.

Brokeback could have done the same for gay film. It wasn't just a hit, but the first unabashed gay romance to cross over to mainstream audiences. It also obliterated an ancient Hollywood phobia that playing gay would kill an actor's career. Not only did stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal both score Oscar nominations, but Ledger is playing the Joker in next summer's Batman sequel, The Dark Knight. Gyllenhaal will be starring opposite Tobey Maguire in Brothers. ''It's been extraordinary,'' Gyllenhaal says of life post-Brokeback. ''It has taken me to a different place in my career. Nothing but wonderful, positive things have come out of that experience.''

But not for the rest of the industry. According to almost every person interviewed for this story, there just aren't any high-quality gay scripts in circulation. ''I swear to you, if there were projects that were visible and good, people would make them,'' says Hairspray producer Craig Zadan, who, with Neil Meron, makes up one of the most successful gay producing teams in town. ''No one's brought them to us.'' It doesn't help that the scripts that are out there can't seem to get off the ground. The Front Runner, about a cross-country coach who falls in love with one of his runners, and The Dreyfus Affair, about a romance between two major-league ballplayers, have been in development hell for years. And Zadan and Meron themselves have spent 16 years trying to get The Mayor of Castro Street, about slain gay civil rights icon Harvey Milk, on the screen. So gay film is caught in a bitter catch-22. Because studios don't greenlight gay movies, great writers don't bother crafting them — so there's nothing for the studios to produce. ''Three times I've been approached to do the Harvey Milk story,'' says gay screenwriter John August (Big Fish). ''And I would love to. But my favorite genre of movie is movies that get made.''

Ironically, it may get made, just not by Zadan and Meron. Director Gus Van Sant (My Own Private Idaho) is poised to direct Sean Penn in a competing film called Milk, financed by producer Michael London (Sideways). (Focus Features, which released Brokeback, is in talks to distribute it.) In 1977, Milk became the first prominent out gay man in American history to win elected office — only to be gunned down in San Francisco City Hall 11 months later. The astonishing story was explored in an Oscar-winning 1984 documentary. Now, although Zadan and Meron have lined up Bryan Singer (Superman Returns) to direct — and Steve Carell tells EW he might want to star — their project will likely die if Milk begins shooting in January as planned.

Even one Milk movie is a step in the right direction, and a hint that Brokeback's achievements did not go entirely unnoticed. ''There's just no way Brokeback didn't break down significant barriers about the way [independent] financiers think,'' London says. ''If there was some sense that gay subject matter doesn't work, we wouldn't be making Milk.'' London — who is, for the record, straight — suspects that if this movie is successful, the industry will realize that there's gold in gay film. ''Maybe Milk will make clear that audiences are way less conservative about this than conventional wisdom holds,'' he says. ''I don't think audiences care as much about distinctions in sexuality as generations did 20 years ago.'' One can only hope. Brokeback's Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar have carried the almost impossible weight of cinema history. It would be nice if they could share the burden. 
 
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[info]trinity_squared 25th-Oct-2007 03:53 pm (UTC)
as uncomfortable Americans are with gay's I think Brokeback Mountain was more tolerable with two men versus two women. Why? I dont know its just a feeling I have.

I dont think it was the sex scenes that bothered most people but just the idea of two men loving each other.

IMO
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 03:56 pm (UTC)
as uncomfortable Americans are with gay's I think Brokeback Mountain was more tolerable with two men versus two women. Why?

Hm...I dunno I think it would've been a lot less controversial
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
Uh yeah. Lesbians are always less controversial. Dumb but true
[info]_glarawen_ 25th-Oct-2007 05:08 pm (UTC)
I think it's just difficult, because there seem to be only 2 portrayals of lesbian relationships in films: the hot porno-esque kind (that guys will watch just because "two hot chicks make out", not for the actual content), or the butch Helgas and manly lesbians like that.

I mean, I'm not saying there aren't normal representations, but I guess that there should be more normal lesbians in films. Like Jack and Ennis were just normal guys, and not the fashion obsessed squealing gays you see in for instance in the series Ugly Betty (which I adore, btw, don't get me wrong ;)).

But I think that two normal girls falling in love would work just as well as the two men in Brokeback Mountain.
[info]juliehouse 25th-Oct-2007 04:09 pm (UTC)
Because sex is animalistic and the Gen Pub figures most men can not control them selves anyway. But to fall in love? We they would have to do that on purpose.
[info]deerlike 25th-Oct-2007 05:10 pm (UTC)
I don't know, I'm of mixed opinions. Sometimes I think it's more acceptable for two men to love each other, as long as it's in that stiff upper-lip "I love you. Man." two claps on the back. In other words, devoid of any tenderness or physicality whatsoever, so that the audience can easily delude themselves into thinking it's all platonic. But when there's two women involved, there almost has to be an overemphasis on the sex, like the audience wants to play voyeur and see "how do two women do it, when there are no penises involved." Or they'll only love each other if they're plain and "ugly".
[info]lovebright 25th-Oct-2007 10:28 pm (UTC)
I'd rather two men then two women anyday.
lesbians tend to be very trashy.
[info]evilpinkmonkey 26th-Oct-2007 12:16 am (UTC)
I agree; I think people are generally less afraid of lesbian sexuality (after all, it's titillating to men, isn't it?) but scared of the idea of women actually falling in love--actually denying themselves to men.

So women kissing to turn men on is fine. Women actually pursuing a romance is not something most people would be comfortable with.

I think most homophobia is at least partly a result of misogyny and aversion towards femininity anyway, so that makes sense.
[info]sooozie1982 25th-Oct-2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
I can't fathom anyone in this day and age refusing to see a movie about two gay men. It just doesn't compute

(and they don't know what they're missing anyway, since BBM is the most gorgeous love story evah)
[info]haydsvirgo 25th-Oct-2007 04:17 pm (UTC)
I know a few people who wouldn't, but they were straight men. Obviously homophobic. It's like hello, watching it isn't going to make you go gay all of a sudden. It makes me wonder, why are they so afraid to watch it? Afraid they might be aroused and unable to hide it? I can't stand those rigid types.
[info]jrh19782002 25th-Oct-2007 04:23 pm (UTC)
when the movie came out some people at work was talking about it and these 2 women went ewwwww who would want to see that.
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 04:19 pm (UTC)
lol where do you live? Here in the midwest it's about 50/50 with whether people would watch something gay or not...
[info]pennnyylaaaane 25th-Oct-2007 05:37 pm (UTC)
a lot of the guys in my family refused to see it. it made me sad because my brother has really good taste in movies and i think he would really enjoy it.
[info]krycek_chick 25th-Oct-2007 05:47 pm (UTC)
I didn't like Brokeback primarily because it was boring, and moreover I can't empathize with characters who are adulterous. I know the writers felt it was integral to the storyline to have them cheat on their wives with each other, but I can't get behind something like that, that inevitably hurts the other person in the relationship.

Gorgeous love story my eye.
[info]lyinglies 25th-Oct-2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
Oh Lord, I remember before this movie came out in theatres, I overheard this girl in my class (I was in high school then) that said, "Have you heard about Brokeback Mountain? I am so disappointed in Heath..."

I was like, LOL, bitch, you don't even know him, not to mention playing a gay part DOESN'T MEAN HE'S GAY!
[info]slurp 25th-Oct-2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
Ummm being gay or promoting homosexuality will get you sent straight to hell. duh.
[info]groonk 25th-Oct-2007 10:00 pm (UTC)
you don't live in The South
[info]kristina2477 25th-Oct-2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
No thanks Chris. I don't want to read about geigh boys.

[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 03:55 pm (UTC)
you know you canadians love teh gaiis
[info]a_grumble_cakee 25th-Oct-2007 03:56 pm (UTC)
the homoerotic homophobia of 300

what the hell is homoerotic homophobia?
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 03:57 pm (UTC)
i think they're referring to the homophobic themes of the movie even though the movie itself was very homoerotic
[info]tigermilk 25th-Oct-2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
Bingo! I cackled about how they were hating on the "boy-lovers" when they are Spartans. Lots of gay in that bunch.
[info]jrh19782002 300 is even more gay than brokeback mt..25th-Oct-2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
300 was so hot
[info]krycek_chick 25th-Oct-2007 07:51 pm (UTC)
OMG. YOUR ICON.

I was looking at Efron's hair earlier this week and going, "heeey, that's kind of how Light's hair would look in real life!" El Oh El.
[info]sparkfactory 25th-Oct-2007 03:57 pm (UTC)
That is so lame

ONTD should get control of hollywood
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
lol. it'd be nothing but p33n.
[info]krysteener 25th-Oct-2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
LOL
[info]juliehouse 25th-Oct-2007 04:10 pm (UTC)
Im okay with that. Forward march.
[info]hcrewzor 25th-Oct-2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
I was going for the full read. But TV has reduced my attention span to about a minute, so...

Anyway, how bout that Dumbledore? There's a lead gay character in a children's movie.
[info]pollensalta 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
was awesome when JKR revealed that. too bad we didn't know about it til after the books, and I'm 100% sure it won't be addressed in the 6th movie.
[info]proleptical 25th-Oct-2007 09:44 pm (UTC)
it shouldn't be addressed in the 6th movie because, well, why would it be? now the 7th movie, that's where all the subtext is. young!dumbledore and young!grindewald flashbacks, yay!
[info]recycleanimals 25th-Oct-2007 04:30 pm (UTC)
Haha, I was telling someone that J.K. just gave the Christians another reason to think she's Satan.
[info]pollensalta 25th-Oct-2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
BM was a wonderful movie, that is al.
[info]pollensalta 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
*all, even
[info]moteur 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
I don't think younger people are that much less homophobic than those that are the age of studio execs :/

Two men showing romantic affection will always be dangerous/icky to a large amount of people. It's why you rarely see gays kissing in the street ^_^
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 04:01 pm (UTC)
well i love in nyc so i see it all the time bb :)
[info]moteur 25th-Oct-2007 04:03 pm (UTC)
With the same freedom that straights eat each others' faces off?
[info]themegs 25th-Oct-2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
Me too. I live in Queens and I think there's a misconception that we New Yorkers confine teh gheys and their affection to the West Village. I've seen it all up and down Manhattan and in Brooklyn and Queens, and mostly with the younger people. It makes me so happy. More than once I've seen two 7 foot tall teen guys nuzzling noses and making out with one arm around each other and a basketball under the other arm, and last week I saw two little middle school girls blushing and holding hands as one of them wrote down her phone number and the other hid in her shoulder. It gives me a hell of a lot of hope.
[info]simplychristina 25th-Oct-2007 04:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah, me too and I see it all the time. On the subway, in the street, anywhere. My next door neighbors are even gay.
[info]whaturmamasaid 25th-Oct-2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
aww, i'll french you in public
[info]ninefifteen 25th-Oct-2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
I do think people are becoming less homophobic. Surveys here say that the age group of 15-20 year olds are the least homophobic and that it is quite accepted. But just like you, I never see any gay people showing obvious affection for each other in the streets. I thought I saw two girls once, but one of them was actually a guy.
[info]xmest_upx 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
All I want to know is why there was so much boob in Brokeback Mountain?
Seriously every film manages to throw in naked women... do.not.want!
[info]cattygossip 25th-Oct-2007 04:07 pm (UTC)
SRSLY! Everytime a boob was shown I was like "this is not what I paid $10 to see."
[info]merffin 25th-Oct-2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
i love the gays but i fucking HATED BBM.
[info]thethirdbar 25th-Oct-2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
i agree, i just couldn't get into it. :| i felt really guilty because i'd been going on about it for ages and then when i finally got it it was just so boring. SIGH. i still haven't managed to watch it all the way through!
[info]terka 25th-Oct-2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
ya, i'm gay too and my partner and i both didn't really care for the movie.
it was pretty boring.
[info]kisstherobot 25th-Oct-2007 04:00 pm (UTC)
''We're still at that place where it's got to be a big dramatic, political angle."

hmm, that reminds me of how on the commentary for The Body, joss was saying how he didn't want tara and willows first on screen kiss to be this huge dramatic statement, he just wanted it to be this sort of normal, uneventful thing - well he obviously put it much better than that, but you get the point.

thanks for posting =)
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 04:03 pm (UTC)
Good comment and I think this is always a struggle for queer films nowadays. :)
[info]deerlike 25th-Oct-2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
I was never much of a Buffy/Angel/etc fan, but I really respected Joss for that. He didn't try to make them into the Other Couple, if that makes sense.
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
:( Fuck the haters. I wish there were more gay movies. It makes me sad that our society is supposed to be "so over" the gay issue or whatever but I still can't go to the theater and watch a movie that's about people like me, except maybe every once and a while when stuff like BBM happens. Blargh.

QUEER LOVE.
[info]shhhutyuhmuh 25th-Oct-2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
Icon <3, bb!

Have you seen the film Aimée & Jaguar?
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 04:53 pm (UTC)
Aww thank you bb! Much love for your icon too :3

And no I haven't, is this something delicious and queer that I need to view?
[info]deerlike 25th-Oct-2007 05:28 pm (UTC)
I know the feeling -- I feel like indie flicks and especially foreign films really give queer relationships and issues the depth they deserve. One of my favourite "coming-of-age, exploring one's sexuality" films ever is this French picture called Les Roseaux Sauvages. And it was made in 1994.
[info]malika 25th-Oct-2007 08:00 pm (UTC)
now you know how ~racial~ minorities feel :( :(
[info]sleeping_days 25th-Oct-2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
Crash was a better movie...sorry ...imo

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[info]moteur 25th-Oct-2007 04:03 pm (UTC)
rofl
[info]mei_yanohi 25th-Oct-2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
Crash was like BBM except about race
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 04:05 pm (UTC)
not really. bbm wasn't really a political movie, whereas crash intentionally was
[info]sunoftheskye 25th-Oct-2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
ia, but it's still ridiculous that a lot of people within the academy (who are supposed to be open minded artists) even refused to see the film.
[info]kristina2477 25th-Oct-2007 04:06 pm (UTC)
I hate movies like Crash. They try so fucking hard.

[info]recycleanimals 25th-Oct-2007 04:29 pm (UTC)
I loved that movie. It makes me sad to see so many people hate it.
[info]enilangus 25th-Oct-2007 04:29 pm (UTC)
Oh FUCK NO.

Most contrived piece of trash film.
[info]deerlike 25th-Oct-2007 05:02 pm (UTC)
I've seen better films that explore racism, imo. I liked Brokeback Mountain for being a moving love story about two men. :)
[info]mourning 26th-Oct-2007 02:00 am (UTC)
crash fucking sucks
[info]merkin_muffley 25th-Oct-2007 04:09 pm (UTC)
I miss the days of Brokeback mania, they were fun.
[info]halcyontempest 25th-Oct-2007 04:32 pm (UTC)
Remember all those Brokeback parody trailers featuring everyone from Zack Morris and A.C. Slater to Marty McFly and Doc Brown? Lol.
[info]frenchmoodle 25th-Oct-2007 04:18 pm (UTC)
That movie dragged on for me... I started looking forward to the sex scenes just to see something other than the two guys standing around, but even those was boring. I was hoping it'd be better, considering the hype.
[info]theluvbox 26th-Oct-2007 08:19 am (UTC)
lmao same here.

The movie was horrible. Gay had nothing to do with it.
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